Originally posted by: grasshopper26
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Do we also wear cowboy hats and belt buckles and lynch black people ? I should have been more clear. I'm talking about people living in Houston suburbs. People who have ranches and such do NOT drive Suburbans.. hence the name "Suburban".
I think they do lynch black people at College Station though.
George W. Bush drives his white Suburban around his own ranch, as well as into town... He loves that thing.
Originally posted by: Sachmho
most working families do not need the space of a suburban or another gigantor SUV... in their most common applications, they're completely unnecessary...
Originally posted by: bizmark
Ummm... A Suburban IS a truck. A truck that doesn't *completely* waste the whole back half of the vehicle for most people. Pickup trucks simply aren't that useful as daily drivers for most people. An SUV like the Suburban is a terrific in-between. It has a lockable, dry cargo area, carries 8 safely, and you can still fit plywood sheets or a couch in the back It's terrific for long car trips, even with just 4 people. Letting each kid have a whole seat to him/herself is a godsend especially when they're tired and whiney I know personally -- my sister and I hardly fought at all when we took those 5-hour holiday trips to Dallas in our Suburban
And FYI Suburbans have been "Texas Cadillacs" for a LONG time....at least since I was a kid. They have been status symbols in Texas (esp. more rural parts) for quite some time. This is no new trend.
Originally posted by: kherman
People forget that cars are LUXURY ITEMS. You need one these days, but no one needs a suburban. Fine by me though. I'll buy the cheap car and put the saved money into an auto manufacturers stock. Then I will encourage people to buy big, expensive cars. Every car someone purchases just contributes more money to my dividend distribution
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
What are you talking about motorcycles?? Mine can get close to 40mpg, outrun just about any street car, and carry myself and one other person. motorcycles are the answer to traffic jams, and gas milage woes, etc....
Originally posted by: Dudd
Bullsh!t. Many of the SUV's out there are built on car chasis so that people can impede my view like a real SUV, but lack the actually grunt that make SUV's useful. I have no problem with anyone buying an SUV if they are actually going to use it, but I think it's rediculous to buy one to drive little Timmy to soccer practice. But hey, it's your choice, although I plan on never buying anything larger than a station wagon.
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
lol, now I see how you have 1500 posts in 2 1/2 months!
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
lol, now I see how you have 1500 posts in 2 1/2 months!
Originally posted by: kherman
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Hey kherman, Remember how we talked about risk vs. cost. I would argue these poeple driving a 8000lb F-350 are safer in general in auto accidents which lowers thier health risk at a higher financial cost to them. Think of it as a insuance policy for their family.
I'm not sure if there is much benefit of a F-350 dually over a F-150. They both have frames (real ones) that make them safe. In a F-350/F-150, the F-350 obviously wins since it is heaier and higher off the ground. But against a car, the F-350 has only minimal benefits improvment over an F-150. mostly due tothe extra weight.
I agree with you though. It's just a fine line is all.
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Fine line my ass, You missed the point If a F-350 4x4 crew cab lifted dully hits anything (like the now very popular suburban or f-150) that vehilce will lose and lose big. Much Like a f-150 hitting a Camery. Not only is there a 2000lbs difference and higher COG, the Heavy duty trucks have a thicker frame to withstand crumpleing. The only thing a F-350 4x4 crew cab lifted dully has to fear on the road is another HD truck or a commercial vechile. Therefore it is prudent for a family to have one in event of a collison.
Naa, there is a declining risk factor there....
There is getting a big safe truck, and going overboard. Where you draw THAT line is more the issue.
Personally, anything bigger than a Suburban is getting absurd. But perhaps I'm a bit biased...
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Not with all these people buying Suburbans I'd say the risk by driving a normal SUV is too high for me therefore a HD truck is the bare minimum.
Ahh so now we finally come down it. The feeling everyone has but never admits. The anti-SUV crowd is right when they say these vechiles are getting out of hand. Where do we stop? No one can tell me what I can and can't drive grasshopper.
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I do look @ Hummer H2's & Suburbans, etc as a waste & we look like hypocrits when we come to the world's table to negotiate pollution control with countries that don't even have electricity & running water in the less developed areas.
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Here ya go grasshopper
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What would you prefer, two standard cars driving around getting 25mpg or one suburban driving around getting 15mpg?
I'd rather folks look @ their real needs & purchase a car/truck that meets those needs.
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'd rather folks look @ their real needs & purchase a car/truck that meets those needs.
For instance, I want a 4X4 duallie extended cab diesel pickup, & I could go buy one today, but the times I would really need one, I can rent one, and save tens of thousands of dollars in opportunity cost, maintenance, insurance, taxes, & licensing. Lets see $30K versus $50 for a 1 day rental.
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Well said, I addition think about the affect they are having on the enviroment since we havent mandated somthing like 75mpg cars yet
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Hehe Glad you liked it
Because now that I have explained the virtures of owning a F-350 this will be my next vechile to stay ahead of the game... Better have a bathroom and be self contained though so I can get the 2nd mortgage intrest dedution for the payments
Originally posted by: grasshopper26
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'd rather folks look @ their real needs & purchase a car/truck that meets those needs.
For instance, I want a 4X4 duallie extended cab diesel pickup, & I could go buy one today, but the times I would really need one, I can rent one, and save tens of thousands of dollars in opportunity cost, maintenance, insurance, taxes, & licensing. Lets see $30K versus $50 for a 1 day rental.
Ok, and if a family needs something that hauls 4 to 6 people plus their stuff, what is wrong with them buying a Suburban?
Where on Earth can you rent a 4x4 duallie extended cab diesel pickup for $50/day? Me want!!!
Grasshopper