DIY $150 Home "Super" Network

Kaido

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Update 1: Added DD-WRT flashing instructions about 10 or 15 posts down

I am upgrading my network this week. I have Cable Internet and I am going to wire up my place with 10/100 plus wireless. Just thought I'd share my setup:

Motorola SB5120 Cable Modem $54
Buffalo WHR-G54S - $40
Dell 16-port 10/100 unmanaged switch - $48

My Motorola SB3100 Cable Modem is getting a little old and is on the fritz, so I decided to upgrade it to an SB5120. I chose the Buffalo router so that I could load the DD-WRT aftermarket firmware on it. There are two models from Buffalo that are worth looking at, the WHR-G54S and the WHR-HP-G54. The WHR-HP-G54 has an integrated amp, which improves wireless range, but the WHR-G54S has a heatsink already installed, which is good for long-term cooling, especially if you plan on mounting it outdoors. The WHR-HP-G54 is about $17 more than the WHR-G54S. I decided to go with the WHR-G54S (the cheaper model) due to the heatsink and the fact that it is touted as cheapest 100% DD-WRT compatible wireless router available. Plus it looks nice

To give you a little more background on DD-WRT, it is basically a free aftermarket firmware for various router models that expands the capabilities of the stock firmware. A word of warning: be sure to follow the instructions carefully or else you can "brick" (damage beyond repair) your router during the installation process. DD-WRT has a variety features; for a complete list click here. With DD-WRT you can do unique things like use another router as a wireless bridge, have dynamic and static IPs, setup VPN, and adjust the wireless transmitter's power.

I chose the Dell switch because they are running a sale on switches. The 16-port model is only $48; if you need more expansion capabilities they are also selling a 24-port model for $69. They also have a 24-port model with 2 Gigabit uplink ports for $104. You can take a look at those models here. The new standard is 10/100/1000 (Gigabit), so the 10/100 models are rapidly dropping in price, making it affordable to wire up your home on a budget for computers, TiVo, gaming systems, and so on. Gigabit is overkill for my home, but you might want to consider getting a Gigabit switch instead of a 10/100 model if you plan on doing a lot of file sharing in your network. As far as buying cables goes, I can't recommend MonoPrice enough. You can buy all different colors and sizes of CAT5E cable, or even CAT6 if you want to future-proof it.

Regarding types of switches, there are two kinds available: unmanaged and managed. For your home, you'll want to get an unmanaged switch. "Unmanaged" basically means plug and play - plug into your router and that's it, just attach your network devices and it does the rest, no other setup required. A "managed" switch can be configured to act like an unmanaged switch, but it will cost more and will be overkill for most home networks. If you do decide to go Gigabit and are only buying one switch, keep in mind that you don't necessarily need a Gigabit router since normal broadband Internet connections don't even hit 100Mbps, let alone 1000Mbps.

So here's the setup: RF cable line from wall --> Motorola Cable Modem --> Modified Buffalo wireless router --> Dell 16-port switch --> Network Devices (computers, game systems, etc.). I have several computers and other devices like an Xbox, TiVo, etc. and my home is not built for good wireless transmission (the walls block the signal too other rooms pretty well), so I will be able to more effectively network my hardware using wires. The wireless will be for my laptop and for my friend's laptops when they visit. (Update - I found out that my house walls *are* in fact lined with foil, which is wrapped around the insulation, thus inhibiting my wireless signal). It's amazing what you can get for your money nowadays. This network system will allow everything in my home to be wired together and have access to all of the resources, plus I have a more significant degree of control over my Internet connection and routing system.
 

jlazzaro

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good stuff. didnt feel like gig was worth the extra $$?

Originally posted by: Kaido
"Unmanaged" basically means plug and play - plug into your router and that's it, just attach your network devices and it does the rest, no other setup required.

This is true for managed switches as well. Remember, switches operate at Layer 2. Layer 3 management addressing has no effect on the switching process itself.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: jlazzaro
good stuff. didnt feel like gig was worth the extra $$?

Originally posted by: Kaido
"Unmanaged" basically means plug and play - plug into your router and that's it, just attach your network devices and it does the rest, no other setup required.

This is true for managed switches as well. Remember, switches operate at Layer 2. Layer 3 management addressing has no effect on the switching process itself.

For my purposes, no. I had originally planned on it, but decided I didn't need it. The 10/100 network setup is 1/3 the cost btw. I have a few computers, a TiVo, a file server, and some Xboxes floating around, that's pretty much it for now. The largest file transfers I do are all under 2 gigabytes, which shouldn't take too long over 10/100, and the rest is just streaming music or movies to the Xboxes.

As far as managed switches go, I read an article or two about them and it seemed like overkill. From what I gathered, you need a web interface or some other setup to really start controlling things, and that seemed more of a pain than just plugging in an unmanaged switch. Thanks for the clarification though, might be a good route for some people
 

jlazzaro

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agreed that any managed solution is probobly a bit much for home use.

i was just commenting on the fact that for basic functionality, you can plug in a managed switch and it will act identical to an unmanaged switch.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: jlazzaro
agreed that any managed solution is probobly a bit much for home use.

i was just commenting on the fact that for basic functionality, you can plug in a managed switch and it will act identical to an unmanaged switch.

Ah, I see. Cheaper to go unmanaged though

I'm looking forward to setting it all up, ordered everything today. I'll post some pics and stuff when I get it all.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: jlazzaro
agreed that any managed solution is probobly a bit much for home use.

i was just commenting on the fact that for basic functionality, you can plug in a managed switch and it will act identical to an unmanaged switch.

Not true. A managed switch normally needs to be told how to switch. Many times you can't just plug it in and it works, it needs to be configured first.

I've seen it many, many, many times. People run out and buy a nice switch and then return it because "it didn't work". Well it "didn't work" because you didn't configure it. Most switches/routers can't just be taken out of the box and plugged in.

The most common is a vlan mismatch or a port configured wrong and the switch shuts down the port or puts it in a blocking state.

But above that the most important aspect of a managed switch is it has troubleshooting tools/logging and commands built in.
 

bluestrobe

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Most of Dell's managed switches are shipped by default with the management turned off. Paid $45 for my Power Connect 2708 (8 port, 10/100/1000) new off an eBay store. Plugged in and ran it ever since.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: bluestrobe
Most of Dell's managed switches are shipped by default with the management turned off. Paid $45 for my Power Connect 2708 (8 port, 10/100/1000) new off an eBay store. Plugged in and ran it ever since.

waht did you think of it? I am VERY interested in moving my busy network onto gigabit
 

bluestrobe

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster

waht did you think of it? I am VERY interested in moving my busy network onto gigabit

Been running it for 6 months now with not one hiccup. I?ve played with the managed mode but have no need for it. Turn it off and you never knew it was an option.

 

InlineFive

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Originally posted by: bluestrobe
Most of Dell's managed switches are shipped by default with the management turned off. Paid $45 for my Power Connect 2708 (8 port, 10/100/1000) new off an eBay store. Plugged in and ran it ever since.

I believe that is an entry-level "managed" switch that has L2 functionality only. The ones spidey07 mentioned are true L3 switches.
 

PuvMan

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how is the range on the buffalo with the stock firmware? I have a friend who has a netgear wireless router (dont know the model off hand) and in order to get a strong enough wireless signal in his family room, we bought one of their powerline adapters, which connects to the router with an ethernet cord, and the other end is a wireless base station. Without the powerline adapter they get a very faint signal from the router itself. The wireless end blew out (big spark, smelled something burning) and when i'm looking for it online it is $80 new, but most stores only have refurbed units, which makes me think this a a common problem on t hem, and I'd rather not go that way again.

So i'm looking to replace his router with whatever router has the best range in the market.

Dont mean to thread jack, but this buffalo unit seems promising, and i can easily install the DD-WRT firmware for them, if it will send out a strong enough signal ....

Thanks!

Puv
 

Doh!

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Originally posted by: PuvMan
how is the range on the buffalo with the stock firmware? I have a friend who has a netgear wireless router (dont know the model off hand) and in order to get a strong enough wireless signal in his family room, we bought one of their powerline adapters, which connects to the router with an ethernet cord, and the other end is a wireless base station. Without the powerline adapter they get a very faint signal from the router itself. The wireless end blew out (big spark, smelled something burning) and when i'm looking for it online it is $80 new, but most stores only have refurbed units, which makes me think this a a common problem on t hem, and I'd rather not go that way again.

So i'm looking to replace his router with whatever router has the best range in the market.

Dont mean to thread jack, but this buffalo unit seems promising, and i can easily install the DD-WRT firmware for them, if it will send out a strong enough signal ....

Thanks!

Puv

You can get either a Belkin router (F5D7233) or a Buffalo wHR-G54S and set one as either an AP or a repeater to extend the coverage. You can get either for about $35 online.

See here for a basic explanation.
 

PuvMan

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Hmmm.... tru
didnt think about using a repeater.... good to know the buffalo can do this, i can pick one up, and see if it works nicely.... and if not, i can always use it at home as i am still on an old wireless b linksys unit at home

thanks!
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: PuvMan
Hmmm.... tru
didnt think about using a repeater.... good to know the buffalo can do this, i can pick one up, and see if it works nicely.... and if not, i can always use it at home as i am still on an old wireless b linksys unit at home

thanks!

Did mine tonight, works great, no bricks (goodbye Linksys!). Here is my procedure for the $39 Buffalo WHR-G54S, adapted from the Wiki: (step-by-step, looks more complicated than it is)

1. Download the standard generic firmware: (dd-wrt.v23_generic.bin)

a. Go here: DD-WRT Download Area
b. Click on "dd-wrt.v23 SP2"
c. Click on "standard"
d. Click on "dd-wrt.v23_generic.bin" to download (3.3mb)
e. Save to C:
* v23 SP2 will not always be the most current version; just update the folder and filenames to reflect whichever is newest (v23 SP3, v24, etc.). Also, do NOT use anything prior to SP1 on a Buffalo router!

2. Configure your computer: (I used Windows XP)

a. Disable wireless connection (if you have one)
b. Close anti-virus and firewall applications
c. Plug in network cable (to connect to the router later)
d. Open TCP/IP Network settings (Network Neighborhood > View Network Connections > Local Area Connection > Internet Protocol (TCP/IP))
e. Select "use the following IP address" and set the IP address to "192.168.11.2", Subnet mask to "255.255.255.0" and leave the Default gateway blank

3. Configure your router:

a. Reset to factory defaults (if you just bought it you are good to go)
b. Unplug power cable
c. Plug in network cable from PC to a LAN port (not WAN)

4. Flash firmware:

a. Open the Command Prompt (Start > Run > "cmd" to open)
b. Go to the C:\ by typing "cd c:\"
c. Type this in BUT don't press enter yet: "tftp -i 192.168.11.1 PUT dd-wrt.v23_generic.bin"
d. Hit enter and then plug in the power cable to the router
e. The LAN port will start flashing (the green LED by the Ethernet cable)
f. Wait a minute or two for the file to transfer. If you are successful, you will get a message like "Transfer successful: 3502080 bytes in 5 seconds, 700416 bytes/s". If it is not successful, you will get a message saying "Timeout occurred". If this happens you probably plugged in the router's power cable too quickly. There is a small window when the router accepts files to be transferred and you have to hit it just right.

5. Reset the system:

a. Go back into your TCP/IP settings on your PC and set it to "Obtain IP address automatically" instead of "Use the following IP address"
b. Reset the router by unplugging it and plugging it back in
c. Log into the router by pointing your browser to 192.168.1.1
d. Immediately change the password (default username is "root" and password is "admin")

That's it, now enjoy! Basically you are just transferring the new firmware to the router. Easy as pie. By the way, the rest of my network equipment showed up, here's a pic:

Home Network

Pictured is my shiny new black Motorola cable modem, freshly-flashed Buffalo wireless router, and 16-port 10/100 Dell switch. Below that is my Mini-ITX file server (small, eh?). Everything will be connected to an old UPS battery-backup strip I have lying around somewhere. Now I will have the pleasure of drilling holes in my place to run the wiring. I'm not going to bother installing keystone jacks (wallplates) since I don't have that many devices and the wires can be hidden pretty easily against the wall (white network cables). I bought the CAT5E network cables from MonoPrice.com, an awesome place for getting quality cheap cables. I'll post some some more pics when it's all set up.
 

PuvMan

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i will soon have almost the exact setup. Buffalo router, dell 16 port switch, and a motorola cable/voip modem. However, i Probably will install keystone jacks, as I have wall plates up at most locations. Its just fishing the wires now.

Thanks for the recommendations!
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: PuvMan
i will soon have almost the exact setup. Buffalo router, dell 16 port switch, and a motorola cable/voip modem. However, i Probably will install keystone jacks, as I have wall plates up at most locations. Its just fishing the wires now.

Thanks for the recommendations!

Ah, nice! When I move into a more permanent place I plan on installing a Gigabit network. Someday

Edit: btw, there is a "Hot Deal" going on for $10 off stuff at Buy.com if you use Google Checkout - I picked up another Buffalo router to be flashed for a friend of mine for like $35 shipped, amazing price!
 

Kaido

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Just flashed a second WHR-G54S for a friend, came out perfect. Very easy system to flash, just follow my instructions step-by-step and you will have a DD-WRT-powered router in no time
 

Genx87

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Gbit is so nice once you have tasted it, I cant go back.

Motoral Cable Modem-->Cisco 831-->16 port Dell web managed Gbit switch--Tivo,Filer,Desktops.
Moving a 2GB file in <60 seconds vs 3-5 mins is very nice.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Gbit is so nice once you have tasted it, I cant go back.

Motoral Cable Modem-->Cisco 831-->16 port Dell web managed Gbit switch--Tivo,Filer,Desktops.
Moving a 2GB file in <60 seconds vs 3-5 mins is very nice.

My only problem with that is that my Xbox and TiVo don't have Gigabit Ethernet jacks
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: Genx87
Gbit is so nice once you have tasted it, I cant go back.

Motoral Cable Modem-->Cisco 831-->16 port Dell web managed Gbit switch--Tivo,Filer,Desktops.
Moving a 2GB file in <60 seconds vs 3-5 mins is very nice.

My only problem with that is that my Xbox and TiVo don't have Gigabit Ethernet jacks

Tivo has a ridiculously slow transfer rate and I have no idea why, it must be a software thing. But moving files from my desktop to my filer and back ect is where I really see the nice benefits of Gbit.

You can still hook them into the network, they just connect at their speed which depends on which nic you put in the Tivo unit and the xBox is probably 100Mbit.


 

Thoreau

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: bluestrobe
Most of Dell's managed switches are shipped by default with the management turned off. Paid $45 for my Power Connect 2708 (8 port, 10/100/1000) new off an eBay store. Plugged in and ran it ever since.

waht did you think of it? I am VERY interested in moving my busy network onto gigabit

Just to chip in on the Dell switch bandwagon... I've been more than pleased with Dell's network gear for quite a while. In the past, all of my LAN parties ran from a pair of 2324's (24 10/100 + 2 10/100/1000 copper, unmanaged) without any issue, and more recently we have been using a 2724 (24 10/100/1000 copper, web managed + two fiber ports) for a semi-separate imaging network at work.

For the price, Dell is hard to beat, and the gear is rock solid.
 

kevnich2

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Originally posted by: Kaido
Originally posted by: PuvMan
Hmmm.... tru
didnt think about using a repeater.... good to know the buffalo can do this, i can pick one up, and see if it works nicely.... and if not, i can always use it at home as i am still on an old wireless b linksys unit at home

thanks!

Did mine tonight, works great, no bricks (goodbye Linksys!). Here is my procedure for the $39 Buffalo WHR-G54S, adapted from the Wiki: (step-by-step, looks more complicated than it is)

1. Download the standard generic firmware: (dd-wrt.v23_generic.bin)

a. Go here: DD-WRT Download Area
b. Click on "dd-wrt.v23 SP2"
c. Click on "standard"
d. Click on "dd-wrt.v23_generic.bin" to download (3.3mb)
e. Save to C:
* v23 SP2 will not always be the most current version; just update the folder and filenames to reflect whichever is newest (v23 SP3, v24, etc.). Also, do NOT use anything prior to SP1 on a Buffalo router!

2. Configure your computer: (I used Windows XP)

a. Disable wireless connection (if you have one)
b. Close anti-virus and firewall applications
c. Plug in network cable (to connect to the router later)
d. Open TCP/IP Network settings (Network Neighborhood > View Network Connections > Local Area Connection > Internet Protocol (TCP/IP))
e. Select "use the following IP address" and set the IP address to "192.168.11.2", Subnet mask to "255.255.255.0" and leave the Default gateway blank

3. Configure your router:

a. Reset to factory defaults (if you just bought it you are good to go)
b. Unplug power cable
c. Plug in network cable from PC to a LAN port (not WAN)

4. Flash firmware:

a. Open the Command Prompt (Start > Run > "cmd" to open)
b. Go to the C:\ by typing "cd c:\"
c. Type this in BUT don't press enter yet: "tftp -i 192.168.11.1 PUT dd-wrt.v23_generic.bin"
d. Hit enter and then plug in the power cable to the router
e. The LAN port will start flashing (the green LED by the Ethernet cable)
f. Wait a minute or two for the file to transfer. If you are successful, you will get a message like "Transfer successful: 3502080 bytes in 5 seconds, 700416 bytes/s". If it is not successful, you will get a message saying "Timeout occurred". If this happens you probably plugged in the router's power cable too quickly. There is a small window when the router accepts files to be transferred and you have to hit it just right.

5. Reset the system:

a. Go back into your TCP/IP settings on your PC and set it to "Obtain IP address automatically" instead of "Use the following IP address"
b. Reset the router by unplugging it and plugging it back in
c. Log into the router by pointing your browser to 192.168.1.1
d. Immediately change the password (default username is "root" and password is "admin")

That's it, now enjoy! Basically you are just transferring the new firmware to the router. Easy as pie. By the way, the rest of my network equipment showed up, here's a pic:

Home Network

Pictured is my shiny new black Motorola cable modem, freshly-flashed Buffalo wireless router, and 16-port 10/100 Dell switch. Below that is my Mini-ITX file server (small, eh?). Everything will be connected to an old UPS battery-backup strip I have lying around somewhere. Now I will have the pleasure of drilling holes in my place to run the wiring. I'm not going to bother installing keystone jacks (wallplates) since I don't have that many devices and the wires can be hidden pretty easily against the wall (white network cables). I bought the CAT5E network cables from MonoPrice.com, an awesome place for getting quality cheap cables. I'll post some some more pics when it's all set up.

How much of a time window are we talking? I've tried this 9 times with mine and it keeps timing out. I have the command in the window, hit enter, then plug in the power. I've tried waiting 1 second, 2 seconds, 3 seconds, etc and it keeps timing out. Any other secrets or hints?
 
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