DIY: Building your own external GPU for a MBA...

Jodell88

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I think ASUS has been teasing this for years. Damn shame it hasn't been brought to the market as yet.
 

phucheneh

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Bah. When you said 'build your own GPU,' I was picturing something made out of Radioshack project boards that took up an entire room or something.

He just built an adapter. Frankly I'm not seeing where his $250 went? It looks like a power supply is the only major addition...

...oh. It's all in basically converting one of Apple's lame proprietary standards. The really admirable thing would be defeating thunderbolt without buying a ~$150 adapter. Does that mean you could do this on a Windows laptop for 100 bucks?
 

Red Storm

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By the time this technology launches, we will have good enough onboard video performance and it will be DOA.
 

Anonemous

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Since Thunderbolt ports are not common in most PC laptops, I was wondering if this could work over USB 3.0 (5Gb/s).
 

phucheneh

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Why can't you just go through the card slot? I thought that was his intermediate step?

What would be really inventive, Re: USB, is trying to run multiple ports in tandem to increase speeds. Possible? Or are you at the mercy of the controller?
 

slashbinslashbash

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Wow, that's impressive, even more impressive that he was flowing the output back through the same Thunderbolt cable INTO the MBA?! I always assumed that any eGPU solutions would require an external monitor, just as a matter of course...
 

phucheneh

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Oh...now I'm impressed. How DID he do that?

It's not like he's cramming a hundred watts of power through there or something...it's still just a video signal. But I must not understand this thunderbolt thing.
 

Anonemous

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Oh...now I'm impressed. How DID he do that?

It's not like he's cramming a hundred watts of power through there or something...it's still just a video signal. But I must not understand this thunderbolt thing.

Yea looks like he's using the thunderbolt cable to send/receive signals to/from the eGPU which effectively cuts his data throughput by half. This of course takes a performance hit when you look at this benchmarks where his frame rates can be 1.2-1.7x higher if he outputs the video onto an external monitor vs. using his laptops monitor.
 

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Yea looks like he's using the thunderbolt cable to send/receive signals to/from the eGPU which effectively cuts his data throughput by half. This of course takes a performance hit when you look at this benchmarks where his frame rates can be 1.2-1.7x higher if he outputs the video onto an external monitor vs. using his laptops monitor.

Well the main point of this tech was to enable high end gaming on the laptop, so displaying on the laptop's screen is important.
 

jagec

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Well the main point of this tech was to enable high end gaming on the laptop, so displaying on the laptop's screen is important.

High end gaming on a Mac, much less a Macbook Air, just makes me think "just because you CAN...doesn't mean that you SHOULD."
 

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High end gaming on a Mac, much less a Macbook Air, just makes me think "just because you CAN...doesn't mean that you SHOULD."

Why? The whole point of this tech is to game on computers that aren't traditionally seen as gaming rigs, i.e. a Macbook Air or a Windows ultrathin notebook.
 

jagec

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Why? The whole point of this tech is to game on computers that aren't traditionally seen as gaming rigs, i.e. a Macbook Air or a Windows ultrathin notebook.

This is like cramming a V8 into a Civic. It is now much faster, but you've screwed up everything that makes a Civic good to begin with, and it's still no sports car.
 

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This is like cramming a V8 into a Civic. It is now much faster, but you've screwed up everything that makes a Civic good to begin with, and it's still no sports car.

Um, no not at all.

This is like being able to own and use a nice, thin, quiet ultrabook laptop and then when you feel like sitting at a desk and doing some gaming, you plug in the video card and game away. No need to always have a 5+ pound 15" behemoth rig at all times.
 

Howard

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This is like cramming a V8 into a Civic. It is now much faster, but you've screwed up everything that makes a Civic good to begin with, and it's still no sports car.
That's what people used to say about the Miata.
 

RelaxTheMind

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i remember gpu companies talking about this since the voodoo/3dfx days. this wouldnt help only MBAs but low/mid laptops in general have "good enough to play youtube" integrated video card.
 

Broheim

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eGPUs are nothing new, people have been doing it with expresscard for years (performance wasn't that great but it improved if you use an external screen connected directly to the eGPU). Thunderbolt is a step in the right direction for standardized eGPUs.
 

jagec

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Um, no not at all.

This is like being able to own and use a nice, thin, quiet ultrabook laptop and then when you feel like sitting at a desk and doing some gaming, you plug in the video card and game away. No need to always have a 5+ pound 15" behemoth rig at all times.

Well, fair enough. Not my cup of tea, but I guess I can understand the appeal.

That's what people used to say about the Miata.

The Miata isn't WWD
 

Rakehellion

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Since Thunderbolt ports are not common in most PC laptops, I was wondering if this could work over USB 3.0 (5Gb/s).

Lame. The current MacBook air has an internal PCIe bus, which is what I was hoping he used. Show me the video of someone doing that. Thunderbolt adapters can be readily purchased online.

And no, USB 3.0 doesn't have the proper timing circuitry.
 

Anonemous

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Lame. The current MacBook air has an internal PCIe bus, which is what I was hoping he used. Show me the video of someone doing that. Thunderbolt adapters can be readily purchased online.

And no, USB 3.0 doesn't have the proper timing circuitry.

He did use the most current MBA. In the forum guide the author posted that he used a top of the line 11 in. MBA equipped with a Haswell chip (HD5000).

My laptop specs

Mid-2013 11" Macbook Air
1.7 GHz Intel Core i7-4650U (basically the most maxed out 11" mba)
8GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Intel HD Graphics 5000 1024 MB
512GB Apple SSD
 
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Anonemous

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Apple must be loading their legal ammunition now...

More like Intel. They don't want eGPU to be used over TB for some reason...$$$

Intel even openly admits its bias against GPU usage where it's listed as unsupported in their Thunderbolt Certification Application. Talking to one of their thunderbolt guys, here's what that "Not Supported" means:

The “Not supported” means that Intel won’t neither certify your product nor deliver, at the moment, any Technology License for this kind of usage. As you know, this Technology License is required to develop a Thunderbolt device in the market and Certification is a must have to market any Thunderbolt product.
 
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