DMV sending police to recover license plate 'MPEACHW'

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http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/article...news/top/news02_impeach_bush_plate.txt

RAPID CITY -- Heather Moriah loves the personalized license plates on her silver Prius encouraging the impeachment of President George W. Bush.

But somebody doesn?t agree. And that somebody complained to the state. Now, the South Dakota Division of Motor Vehicles is trying to recall the plates -- which read MPEACHW. And if Moriah doesn?t turn them in voluntarily, the state might send law-enforcement officers to pick them up.

Even so, she?s not immediately inclined to cooperate.

?I don?t think I?m going to play,? Moriah said Thursday afternoon. ?The plate isn?t in poor taste. It?s not sexual in nature or pornographic. To me, a political message should not be considered offensive.?

But Division of Motor Vehicles director Deb Hillmer said Thursday that the law clearly gives the state authority to recall the plates and have them forcibly removed if necessary. And although only one person complained about Moriah?s political statement, that?s all it takes to recall a set of vanity plates, Hillmer said.

?I?m following the letter of the law,? she said. ?It?s offensive to someone and not in good taste and decency. And the plates are the property of the state of South Dakota.?

State law declares motor vehicle licenses plates to be the property of the state as long as the plates are valid. The law also allows personalized plates with as many as seven letters for an extra $25 fee. But it gives DMV officials the right to refuse to issue ?any letter combination which carries connotations offensive to good taste and decency.?

Hillmer said MPEACHW meets that criterion. The plates never would have been issued if DMV officials had caught their meaning at the time Moriah applied, Hillmer said.

?This was one that we apparently missed when it came through originally, and we received a complaint from an individual that found it offensive,? she said, declining to identify the individual or provide the contents of the complaint. ?I don?t think we ever would have issued it if we?d have picked up on what it was inferring.?

Moriah said she bought the 2005 Prius late last summer and fitted it with personalized plates similar to those her partner, Curt Finnegan, had on his blue 2004 Prius. His plates actually read: IMPCH-W.

Moriah said has received plenty of positive reactions in public to her plates and that negative responses have been rare. So she was surprised to receive the April 18 letter from the DMV announcing the recall and giving her 10 days to turn in the plates at the Pennington County Treasurer?s Office or the DMV office in Pierre.

The letter said DMV would issue a refund on the months remaining on Moriah?s license.

She is hesitant to give up the plates, however, because she believes her free-speech rights are being unnecessarily limited.

?It?s kind of sad to me,? she said. ?For one person to be able to say they?re offended because it?s different from their political beliefs seems really arbitrary. And I don?t think the law is very clear about what ?offensive? means.?

Hillmer said the law gives the state great latitude in making that determination. Moriah is free to exercise her free-speech rights in ways that don?t involve state property or implied state sanction of a given message, Hillemr said.

?They have every right to use that free speech, but they need to do it with a bumper sticker,? she said. ?That plate is property of South Dakota. And that (message) is not something the state should advocate.?

It wouldn?t matter if the political message or the president were different, it would be inappropriate on a state plate, Hillmer said.

Moriah has contacted the American Civil Liberties Union, which intends to protest the recall in a letter to the state. Moriah said it?s unlikely the ACLU will pursue legal action, in part because she is planning a move to Pennsylvanian in the next couple of months.

Finnegan already has moved there and replaced his South Dakota plates for Pennsylvania plates, Moriah said. Moriah hopes to leave in June or July, with her plates still intact. Hillmer said it might not work out that way.

?We may have law enforcement go pick them up if we receive more complaints about it,? she said. ?If she returns them, we?ll make her new plates. If we have to go pick them up, we probably won?t.?

Hillmer has been with DMV for more than 20 years. She remembers five or six instances when so-called vanity plates were recalled. One of them said ?SNIPER? and another ?OLDFART.?

Moriah is the only person to complain about a recall, Hillmer said.

Rapid City lawyer Patrick Duffy said there?s plenty of reason to complain. Duffy, who has worked on key civil rights cases involving American Indian voting issues, said action by the state means that any personalized plate must be recalled because of a single complaint, no matter what the message.

?What this means is that every atheist can now wipe out anything that seems to refer to God,? Duffy said. ?Will vanity plates for members of the armed forces suddenly be declared offensive if they offend a single pacifist? It?s absolutely preposterous.?

Even obscenity must be judged by the mores and standards of a community, not just one offended individual, Duffy said.

?Here, all we need is one lone citizen who is apparently invested with the complete authority to determine what is good taste and decency for all the rest of us,? he said. ?It seems a little tyrannical to me.?
 

ultimatebob

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Mental note... The next time I'm in the Dakota's, make sure to file a complaint every time I see a license plate with God or Jesus on it.

Lucky for them, the odds of me actually visiting that hell hole of a state are slim and none

(I can't believe that I wasted my 7000th post on this!)

 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: halik
2 priuses (prii?) ... ****** hippies.

In SoCal, most people I see drive Prius' look like top executives. I'm inclined to think they bought them to just use in the carpool lane, which is where I see most of them reside.
 
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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: halik
2 priuses (prii?) ... ****** hippies.

In SoCal, most people I see drive Prius' look like top executives. I'm inclined to think they bought them to just use in the carpool lane, which is where I see most of them reside.

If I was a top exec, I wouldnt mind sitting in traffic in the back seat of an S550
 

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: halik
2 priuses (prii?) ... ****** hippies.

In SoCal, most people I see drive Prius' look like top executives. I'm inclined to think they bought them to just use in the carpool lane, which is where I see most of them reside.

Who cares why they bought them, it's just good that people are buying them, whether for selfish reasons or unselfish reasons.
 

txrandom

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
that plate wouldnt be so cool in about 18 months

Damn hippies don't realize that the effect on nature of replacing your car plates.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: halik
2 priuses (prii?) ... ****** hippies.

In SoCal, most people I see drive Prius' look like top executives. I'm inclined to think they bought them to just use in the carpool lane, which is where I see most of them reside.

Top executives? I highly doubt that - they get Lincoln Towncar or Benz s500 car service. People that buy Priuses tend to be left leaning middle class yuppies.
 

jdoggg12

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: halik
2 priuses (prii?) ... ****** hippies.

In SoCal, most people I see drive Prius' look like top executives. I'm inclined to think they bought them to just use in the carpool lane, which is where I see most of them reside.

Top executives? I highly doubt that - they get Lincoln Towncar or Benz s500 car service. People that buy Priuses tend to be left leaning middle class yuppies.

Not always true, my dad is a corp vice president. Makes well over 100k per year. Mon through friday he drives a 2006 civic hybrid. On the weekends he drives his 2006 E55 AMG.

He's frugal - he lives in the bay and commutes 60 miles.
 

swtethan

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My brother and his wife are selling their prius because they dont want to be looked at as hippies anymore (they arent in the first place, she lives in seattle and they commute a lot to portland)
 
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Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: halik
2 priuses (prii?) ... ****** hippies.

In SoCal, most people I see drive Prius' look like top executives. I'm inclined to think they bought them to just use in the carpool lane, which is where I see most of them reside.

Top executives? I highly doubt that - they get Lincoln Towncar or Benz s500 car service. People that buy Priuses tend to be left leaning middle class yuppies.

Not always true, my dad is a corp vice president. Makes well over 100k per year. Mon through friday he drives a 2006 civic hybrid. On the weekends he drives his 2006 E55 AMG.

He's frugal - he lives in the bay and commutes 60 miles.

I really dont think thats the norm. I'm not saying a well paid big wig wont ever drive a hybrid, but more likely than not, they'll prolly buy the s550
 

Chaotic42

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I hate dirty, smelly, God-less, left-wing, Communist, tie-died, long-haired, weed-smoking hippies as much as the next guy, but she's well within her right to have that plate. That they would try to take it away from her is insane. It won't be an issue for much longer though, she'll probably drown in patchouli oil or die in a bong fire soon.
 

richardycc

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how does MPEACHW 'translate' to impeachment of President George W. Bush? I dont see it.
 

Vette73

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Then she should complain about EVERY personalized license plate. If the DMV just allows one that has a complaint then she will win in court. Worse case she has to give up her plate but the DMV will lose a pile of money for all the plates that will be recalled becasue they get just one complaint.
 

KK

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That's fvckin stupid. But then again so is driving a stupid ass Prius.
 

jpeyton

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Get a bumper sticker instead.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: halik
2 priuses (prii?) ... ****** hippies.

In SoCal, most people I see drive Prius' look like top executives. I'm inclined to think they bought them to just use in the carpool lane, which is where I see most of them reside.

Top executives? I highly doubt that - they get Lincoln Towncar or Benz s500 car service. People that buy Priuses tend to be left leaning middle class yuppies.

Not always true, my dad is a corp vice president. Makes well over 100k per year. Mon through friday he drives a 2006 civic hybrid. On the weekends he drives his 2006 E55 AMG.

He's frugal - he lives in the bay and commutes 60 miles.

I really dont think thats the norm. I'm not saying a well paid big wig wont ever drive a hybrid, but more likely than not, they'll prolly buy the s550

In silicon valley it is the norm, from what i hear. Google will even subsidize you if you buy a hybrid.
 

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"?They have every right to use that free speech, but they need to do it with a bumper sticker,? she said. ?That plate is property of South Dakota. And that (message) is not something the state should advocate.?

Ummm, that essentially means that they need to recall every plate having to do with anything religious.. Separation of church and state, of course. If a message on a license plate means the state is advocating it, then I don't see a difference. The constitution is pretty clear that the gov't can't advocate any particular religion. Got GOD? That's promoting something other than Buddhism. Can't let that happen.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
I really dont think thats the norm. I'm not saying a well paid big wig wont ever drive a hybrid, but more likely than not, they'll prolly buy the s550

In silicon valley it is the norm, from what i hear. Google will even subsidize you if you buy a hybrid.
It's probably not the norm in states where big wigs need to compensate for their small penises.
 
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Lets take the logc another step foward.,

I think we should overhaul the entire money system, because everything says "In god we trust" and that makes me unhappy because it does not coincide with my religious (or lack thereof) beliefs.
 

jammur21

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She should file complaints about EVERY personalized license plate she sees on the road if they take hers.
 

KPACOTKA

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Can somebody explain what this word mean? I know some people get plates with words meaning nothing in English, but meaning really bad things in other languages as French, German or Hindi. They also being asked for removing such plates because a lot French or German people are driving around.
 

brtspears2

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Out of date stickers and license plates are funny. For some reason, anytime I see any car with an impeach Bush message, it also has some environmental issues message sticker, along with two Rage Against the Machine stickers, and a sticker representing the local "rebel" radio station.
 
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