I will continue to build AMD systems, but will refrain from discussing AMD cpus here in the future.
A simple google search for "i5 multitasking benchmarks"
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/07/03/intel-core-i5-4690k-review/4
Very first link. It doesn't get posted because this discussion is endless, has been going on since Sandy Bridge and AMD is on the losing end.
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Then the ADF has won by silencing the truth.
Who cares?
A chip performs well, or it doesn't.
The facts don't change due to forum posts.
Then the ADF has won by silencing the truth.
You mean "facts" without benchmarks like a few post ago..?..
What about these kind of facts for integer throughput using legacy code.?.
http://techreport.com/review/27018/intel-xeon-e5-2687w-v3-processor-reviewed/7
Too many people measurebating it appears. Once you have an SSD,decent enough of an IGP for video playback and general graphics stuff and enough RAM it makes little or no difference whether you are using a Q6600 or a Core i5 6400 for most basic tasks.
If CPU performance was so limiting for most basic tasks,not a single ARM based or Atom based tablet would be selling today. The public has voted in their millions already by buying tablets and keeping their laptops and desktops longer,and Intel has just plonked billions each year on subsidising Atom chips which would be destroyed in most CPU performance metrics by an old Core i3 2100 or probably a Q6600.
Instead you have more hardware enthusiasts bickering on whether one enthusiast CPU is faster than another. Oh no!! One already fast CPU is 20% faster or slower than another,when most people are using basic laptops or tablets with relatively low performance CPUs for the majority of their computing needs followed by even weaker phones. MAXIMUM E-PENIS POINTS to all those bickering. Bickering needs MAXIMUM CPU POWER!!
I'm an Intel fan, but I build AMD APU and FX systems fairly often. I am building an FX-6300 system shortly. I have posted numerous times here with benches of AMD systems that I have built.
These threads are nothing but stupidity contests where asked questions equal "FANBOY!!!!!"
It's really tiring.
I will continue to build AMD systems, but will refrain from discussing AMD cpus here in the future.
FX8 wasn't even beating a 2500k regularly in MT, it was trading blows.
Hollow victory. Intel users will still enjoy their fast processors, including the technical marketing guy at AMD.
Doesn't bother me if people willingly use inferior products, though it is sad to see people who are fans of inferior products steer innocent victims into buying said products because of their loony conspiracy theories.
May the transconductance be with you.
The fact that 4C/4T Core i5-6600K manages to beat octo-core FX8350 in any highly-MT task at all is remarkable. Oh, and here's some benchmarks I'm sure the ADF considers 'completely irrelevant', because they are not stressing all cores 100% all the time. Vishera gets massacred when per-core performance matters more than throughpout.
Pretty sure the same people will consider Summit Ridge a revolucionary product if it barely outperforms FX9590 @ MT but dramatically improves ST and perf/watt later this year. Should be fun to watch.
Not that I'm part of the ADF, because I'm not, but ... consider the release dates of the architectures between the i5-6600K, and the FX8350. The i5-6600K is much newer, I would expect that it would beat the FX8350 in nearly everything because of that fact.
The fact that 4C/4T Core i5-6600K manages to beat octo-core FX8350 in any highly-MT task at all is remarkable. Oh, and here's some benchmarks I'm sure the ADF considers 'completely irrelevant', because they are not stressing all cores 100% all the time. Vishera gets massacred when per-core performance matters more than throughpout.
So the 3570K is almost as fast as the 8350 in AES encryption, must be a specialty of PClab to play with the numbers...
What happen once it s no more PClab, or worse, Bit-Tech..?..
How much smoother will Zen be than Kabylake?
How much smoother will Zen be than Kabylake?
If you really feel that way, why do you bother with posting in the forums then? I grant you, the bickering does get ridiculous at times, but that is just human nature. People just like to argue and compare, much like sports fans. And most of the posters in these forums are not the average casual user, and do have a need for cpu or gpu power.
Not that I'm part of the ADF, because I'm not, but ... consider the release dates of the architectures between the i5-6600K, and the FX8350. The i5-6600K is much newer, I would expect that it would beat the FX8350 in nearly everything because of that fact.
Edit: It would be like comparing my Skylake dual-core, against my aging Core2Quad. Again, unsurprisingly, the Skylake is faster.
Because this forum has some of the worst E-PENIS bickering ever,to the extent a mod posted something to that level. It's childish and its getting worse and worse.
The enthusiast segment has now become a way for people to justify their own purchases which is monumentally stupid as computing tech tends to get outdated more quickly than anything else in newness,etc.
It makes me wonder if a double blind study were done whether any of you would know the difference between one setup or another.
Remember this thread is about day to day usage not something like trying to encode something in 4K.
Now it's became a graphgasm.
What people don't realise that all this stupid E-PENIS josting has negative impacts. Known plenty of lurkers who have gone to a forum like this for example and have decided to buy a console instead of upgrading an oldish PC since it will pointless.
Why? All the stupid bickering about this bottleneck and this bottleneck even in games when the bottleneck is the blasted card,or when an SSD probably do more for the general user experience.
Yet, for all the measurebating the E-PENIS crowd have here even a relatively old PC upgraded with a new card will play most games fine and do most stuff fine.
It will still be faster than all the tablets,phones and bargain basement laptops sold at Asda-Wallmart,etc.
If most of the world's population is buying those of devices now or just keeping their old computers increasingly longer it's obvious for day to day usage we have already hit the point CPU performance is good enough.
Even Intel agrees by the fact it's investing more and more into ATOM and tablet chips.
An old Core i5 2500K will have more processing power than most of those chips.
Look at even windows - a computer which could run vista well will run Windows 10 fine.
It's like the megapixel war with cameras - so many just comparing meaningless numbers without truely understanding what they mean,what the tests are measuring and what actual impact they have.
BUT,BUT,BUT ITS BIGGER!!
Some of you actually do believe that if you went into a bar and said yo got dual Xeon that all the girls will collapse at the site of your massive E-PENIS.
Then AMD should have brought out a newer, faster chip, just like intel did. Being an old chip is no excuse for FX, since it is still the model being sold.