Do Americans even care anymore?

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FoBoT

No Lifer
Apr 30, 2001
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We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
 

Gamingphreek

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OP:

First off this should definitely be in Politics and News

Second off; are you honestly that blindsighted that you believe America is the only nation with such problems? Every nation faces the exact same thing we are facing, so i definitely dont believe it is fair to singe Americans out.

(We aren't borrowing money from other countries?! The budget surplus is gone because the people have the money now. Basic Economics. Because i tend to be conservative, i might as well say this. Why does the government need a surplus of money? What are they going to do with a stack of money sitting around. It is the American People's hard earned money. When it lies in their hands, THEY determine where it goes, THEY keep their hard earned money. Why do i need the government to manage my income? Ill probably get flamed by a mob of angry Liberals, but honestly, why in the hell do i want the government planning out my economic path?

-Kevin
 

jread

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Jan 20, 2005
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Wow... there are some angry people on here. This was meant to start a discussion, not a war. Why are so many people attacking *me*? I'm only human and I admitted that I didn't have the answers. I was hoping to get some good discussion out of this from all points of view.

Ornery, I apologize for being defensive. Your post felt like an all-out personal attack against me and I happened to read it when I was pissed off about something at work.
 

LtPage1

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Jan 15, 2004
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1. P&N.
2. what makes you think we ever cared? what is this golden age people always refer to? we were ALWAYS this apathetically wasteful; it's just finally caught up with us. almost.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Americans just don't want to think. And like everyone, they want a simple solution to a complex problem...and if they can't find that they'll forgo the solution part and just settle for simple. Blame lawsuits. Blame rap music. Blame liberals. Blame conservatives. Blame unions. Blame CEOs. There's plenty of blame to go around. And while everyone is pointing fingers in a circle, nothing is getting done and the country has no unity. No one wants to compomise, or see the other party's point of view...they just want theirs and they want some one to blame when they don't get it.

Like Aharami, eventually you just go "who gives a fvck...maybe we'll be alright anyway." and just go back to doing your own thing, trying to eek out an existence. Its like trying to piss up a rope.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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To all those saying P&N:

Go and read some disscussion in P&N sometime. It is a total war zone. There is no way to hold a civilized disscussion there, the trolls have taken over.

This is off topic, meaning that is has nothing to do with computer hardware or software, so it can be considered to belong.

If you have nothing constructive to say, then by posting you are at best wasting bandwith, and at worst trolling.

Lets please try to keep OT civil.

Thank you.
 

gigapet

Lifer
Aug 9, 2001
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americans stopped caring with the advent of video games, mtv, blockbuster movies and internet pron. we have all the mind numb devices at our disposal thats all that matters....right?
 

Ornery

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Wow, Jeremy seems like a decent fellow after all. I thought the OP was verbatim from a Hollywood Liberal talking points list or something. Well, even if it is, some of my good friends (and even parents) lean that way, and I still can get along with them. I'll try to be more "constructive" in the future, but doubt I'll ever see from their POV!
 

Night Blade

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Oct 9, 1999
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Skipped most of this, IMO the bottom line is all that is bad about humanity, not just the US!, is greed & money.

Someone needs to kill the monetary system of this world, it sucks.
 

Analog

Lifer
Jan 7, 2002
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The eastern world it is explodin',
Violence flarin', bullets loadin',
You're old enough to kill but not for votin',
You don't believe in war, what's that gun you're totin',
And even the Jordan river has bodies floatin',
But you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Don't you understand, what I'm trying to say?
Can't you feel the fears that I'm feeling today?
If the button is pushed, there's no running away,
There'll be no one to save with the world in a grave,
Take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy,
And you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Yeah, my blood's so mad, feels like coagulatin',
I'm sittin' here, just contemplatin',
I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation,
Handful of Senators don't pass legislation,
And marches alone can't bring integration,
When human respect is disintegratin',
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin',
And you tell me over and over and over again my friend,
Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Think of all the hate there is in Red China!
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama!
Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space,
But when your return, it's the same old place,
The poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace,
You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace,
Hate your next-door-neighbour, but don't forget to say grace,
And you tell me over and over and over and over again my friend,
you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.
 
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