Do Christians, Muslims and Jews worship the same God?

[EagleKeeper]

God is ONE. No one has seen him/her. It is the Unique Energy Source powering the whole universe. There is a famous verse from Ramcharitmanas meaning that - "God will come to you in the same form as you will worship him". So as a matter of fact this our thinking and belief that gives the Unique Energy Source the body or some bodily figure.

In otherwords a figment of ones imagination; a crutch so to speak

 

[ThinClient]

God is ONE. No one has seen him/her. It is the Unique Energy Source powering the whole universe. There is a famous verse from Ramcharitmanas meaning that - "God will come to you in the same form as you will worship him". So as a matter of fact this our thinking and belief that gives the Unique Energy Source the body or some bodily figure.

So "god" is nothing more than a philosophy -an anthropomorphic projection of one's own perceptions?

So "god" isn't anything real and only exists in our imagination?

Sure, I'll buy that for a dollar.

 

[ThinClient]

Ever heard of god particle/higs boson? The whole universe is made up of matter and anti matter, dark matter, fusion and fission etc. If our scientists can some day master and control these particles then surely smaller solar system and stars can be created by human beings themselves.

"Any technology that is sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic."

I like to swap out the word "magic" with the word "god" sometimes.

 

[5150Joker]

I don't think they do. Jews and Muslims probably do but not Christians since they are more a polytheistic religion that believes in the trinity which neither Islam or Judaism recognize. The outlier in all three is clearly Christianity which has heavy pagan influence.

 

[ThinClient]

I don't think they do. Jews and Muslims probably do but not Christians since they are more a polytheistic religion that believes in the trinity which neither Islam or Judaism recognize. The outlier in all three is clearly Christianity which has heavy pagan influence.

Not all Christians believe in the Trinity, which has been covered in this thread.

 

[tcsenter]

Jewish god was invented. Christian god borrowed it and modified or added to it. Muslim god borrowed from that and modified it. None of them worship any god. These gods are imaginary.

They ALL needed the connection to antiquity in order to seem legit, no matter how cobbled together and contrived.

This is most obvious between the 'old' and 'new' testaments. The writers of the new testament seem to be distancing itself quite a lot from the ways and tone of the old testament, reinventing god from his smiting and angry and impatient old ways to this tolerant and meek and mild way of the son, and while at the same time, not wanting to seem like a completely 'new' god but rather just the older god with a new attitude. 'I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it', and all that business.

The writers of the new testament are clearly trying to appeal to and make-use of this connection to antiquity, as a stepping-stone. This connection to antiquity is why the Catholic church advocated tolerance of Jews and even protected them during the Middle Ages when a lot of Christians would have preferred to exterminate Jews for denying the divinity of Jesus as the lord savior. Jews (and the Hebrew Bible) were the 'legitimizing' link and witness to antiquity for Christianity and the new testament.

Rinse and repeat for Islam. They couldn't just drop a completely new religion, new holy book, and god out of thin air, so they fashioned it as a sort of 'third' covenant of the same god, even anointing many of the same figures as prophets (Jesus, Noah, Moses, Abraham, etc).

 

[ThinClient]

They ALL needed the connection to antiquity in order to seem legit, no matter how cobbled together and contrived.

This is most obvious between the 'old' and 'new' testaments. The writers of the new testament seem to be distancing itself quite a lot from the ways and tone of the old testament, reinventing god from his smiting and angry and impatient old ways to this tolerant and meek and mild way of the son, and while at the same time, not wanting to seem like a completely 'new' god but rather just the older god with a new attitude. 'I have not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it', and all that business.

The writers of the new testament are clearly trying to appeal to and make-use of this connection to antiquity, as a stepping-stone. This connection to antiquity is why the Catholic church advocated tolerance of Jews and even protected them during the Middle Ages when a lot of Christians would have preferred to exterminate Jews for denying the divinity of Jesus as the lord savior. Jews (and the Hebrew Bible) were the 'legitimizing' link and witness to antiquity for Christianity and the new testament.

Rinse and repeat for Islam. They couldn't just drop a completely new religion, new holy book, and god out of thin air, so they fashioned it as a sort of 'third' covenant of the same god, even anointing many of the same figures as prophets (Jesus, Noah, Moses, Abraham, etc).

...while, at the same time, rejecting the Bible and claiming that the only true book of god is the Quran.

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

It was the statement on the lips of the Muslims violently charging through Asia and Europe that they should burn any book they find that is not the Quran because if the book agrees with the Quran it is redundant and if it conflicts with the Quran then the book is false.

 

[alkemyst]

Many would benefit taking an few ancient civilization classes and some non-secular old testament type classes.

Much of the original words for 'God' are common among man. Christianity came from Judaism though so their Gods are the same it's just the Jesus part that is problematic.

 

[Onceler]

God is not a trinity, He is one. The all in all, the uncreated Creator. God split His consciousness when He made Jesus. Jesus was but a small part of God which is why He had to contemplate deeply when He said give unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's but give unto God what is God's. In other works He didn't know what to tell them at first, He had to think a lot on it. When He died He rejoined with the Father.

 

[redhotiron2004]

God is not a trinity, He is one. The all in all, the uncreated Creator. God split His consciousness when He made Jesus. Jesus was but a small part of God which is why He had to contemplate deeply when He said give unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's but give unto God what is God's. In other works He didn't know what to tell them at first, He had to think a lot on it. When He died He rejoined with the Father.

Lol! Funny, how you just mentioned the internal dilemma of god and jesus.

They were confused! Hahaha

 

[Remobz]

My Priest said that Muslims do not worship the same God and Muslims are going straight to hell.

 

[moonbogg]

When I was young, I used to start my prayers something like this, "Um, God, or Jesus...I mean God and Jesus". You see, I didn't want to offend one by praying to the other. And I wasn't sure which one had more power over me so I didn't know which one to avoid pissing off, so I tried to cover my ass by praying to both. That said, Muslims, Jews and Christians all worship no god. They just think they do.

"Any technology that is sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic."

I like to swap out the word "magic" with the word "god" sometimes.

I agree, and my thoughts on this are why I am agnostic. A startling realization I think, is that nothing about us is unique or done first as far as I can tell. We aren't the first planet to have a star and not the only one. We aren't the only galaxy and weren't the first. We weren't the first creature to walk the earth, and I see no reason to assume that we are the first intelligent thing to have ever existed, either in this universe or elsewhere. It seems reasonable to me that we are not unique and are not the only ones or the first to be capable of technology. That doesn't mean there is a god of course, but I at least find it likely that something intelligent has come before us, be it god or creature.

 

[Baasha]

Worship the sun, it's the proven source of all life on Earth. And you can see it!

Indeed!

sUryA is the Solar Deity in Hinduism - a central being worshipped daily by all Hindus.

Even the famous "Surya-Namaskar" - a popular series of yogasanas - referred to as the "Sun Salutation".

For one, you can actually SEE this deity!

 

[Onceler]

Indeed!

sUryA is the Solar Deity in Hinduism - a central being worshipped daily by all Hindus.

Even the famous "Surya-Namaskar" - a popular series of yogasanas - referred to as the "Sun Salutation".

For one, you can actually SEE this deity!

Not the ones who worship Kali

 

[Onceler]

Thou shalt not have any other god before Me. There ARE other gods.

 

[ThinClient]

Thou shalt not have any other god before Me. There ARE other gods.

Haha. Zing.

 

[Muse]

Presumably

 

[JEDIYoda]

Thou shalt not have any other god before Me. There ARE other gods.

That is not talking about God`s as in another God....


In a general sense, idolatry is the paying of divine honor to any created thing.[4] In ancient times, opportunities to participate in the honor or worship of other deities abounded. However, according to the Book of Deuteronomy, the Israelites were strictly warned to neither adopt nor adapt any of the religious practices of the peoples around them.[5] Nevertheless, the story of the people of Israel until the Babylonian Captivity is the story of the violation of the first commandment by the worship of “foreign gods” and its consequences. Much of biblical preaching from the time of Moses to the exile is predicated on the either-or choice between exclusive worship of God and false gods.[6] The Babylonian exile seems to have been a turning point after which the Jewish people as a whole were strongly monotheistic and willing to fight battles (such as the Maccabean Revolt) and face martyrdom before paying homage to any other god.[7]

The Shema and its accompanying blessing/curse reveals the intent of the commandment to include love for the one, true God and not only recognition or outward observance.[8] In the gospels, Jesus quotes the Shema as the first and greatest commandment,[9] and the apostles after him preached that those who would follow Christ must turn from idols. The Catholic Catechism as well as Reformation and post-Reformation theologians teach that the commandment applies in modern times and prohibits the worship of physical idols, the seeking of spiritual activity or guidance from any other source (e.g. magical, astrological, etc.), and the focus on temporal priorities such as self (food, physical pleasures), work, and money, for examples.[10] The Catholic Catechism commends those who refuse even to simulate such worship in a cultural context, since “the duty to offer God authentic worship concerns man both as an individual and as a social being.

Wikipedia....too much ignorance in this thread...

 

[Onceler]

The God who created the universe is YHVH who's letter's are each a symbolic representation of the four elements. Only one who has followed the path of the magician and learned to control the elements can then enter into study of the Kabalah and learn how to speak the name of God and to know Him. To him that has done so there are no secrets.

 

[kakavn]

Wrong! The Qur'an describes Satan of the Bible. The anti-Christ described in Revelation is the Islamic Mahdi (Messiah).
It is not confusing at all. It is Satanic propaganda. Do not trust any Christian pastor that thinks Islam's god is the Christian God.

 

[alkemyst]

Wrong! The Qur'an describes Satan of the Bible. The anti-Christ described in Revelation is the Islamic Mahdi (Messiah).
It is not confusing at all. It is Satanic propaganda. Do not trust any Christian pastor that thinks Islam's god is the Christian God.

Son or Brother, what are you talkin' 'bout?

 

[Moonbeam]

The God who created the universe is YHVH who's letter's are each a symbolic representation of the four elements. Only one who has followed the path of the magician and learned to control the elements can then enter into study of the Kabalah and learn how to speak the name of God and to know Him. To him that has done so there are no secrets.

A magician can teach the same thing with a stick. The truth is a secret only because nobody wants to know what it is.

 

[sao123]

Wrong! The Qur'an describes Satan of the Bible. The anti-Christ described in Revelation is the Islamic Mahdi (Messiah).
It is not confusing at all. It is Satanic propaganda. Do not trust any Christian pastor that thinks Islam's god is the Christian God.

The more I research into this matter the more I believe it to be true. Almost.

erm yea... I was thinking with my left hand and typing with my right hand.

The Mahdi is not Satan. correct, the Mahdi is the Christian Anti-Christ. (Satan != the AntiChrist, Satan was an Angel who exalted himself above God. the Antichrist is a Man who gives worship to the Dragon [Satan])
The Muslim Jesus (who is not Jesus Christ) will be the false prophet, he is also called Isa.

However following deeper, It is also clear that the Christian Jesus is also the prophesied Islamic Anti-Christ.
7 years after the Mahdi, the Islamic antichrist appears. He is known in Islam as the Dajjal and he will be a leader of the Jewish people.
This is believed to be in reference to the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ


Author Joel Richardson is a very good source in comparing the Islamic end times story with the Christian End Times story.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/index.htm

 

[sandorski]

The more I research into this matter the more I believe it to be true. Almost.

Allah is not Satan. Allah is the Christian Anti-Christ. (Satan != the AntiChrist, Satan was an Angel who exalted himself above God. the Antichrist is a Man)

However following deeper, It is also clear that the Christian Jesus is also the prophesied Islamic Anti-Christ.

mmmmmk

 

[zinfamous]

Wrong! The Qur'an describes Satan of the Bible. The anti-Christ described in Revelation is the Islamic Mahdi (Messiah).
It is not confusing at all. It is Satanic propaganda. Do not trust any Christian pastor that thinks Islam's god is the Christian God.

It is the same god.

and you have been duped by fools.