Where did I assert equivalenceTo say that libs are equally susceptible would be even more dishonest. That's obvious from the way that the right wing punditocracy always comes up with a new one & the eagerness with which their base falls for it.
I mean, do you really need a list?
No, I’ve answered the question several times. Maybe people should stop asking intellectually dishonest questions.Love the way you tap danced right around his question without answering and then veered off into fantasy land.....again.
I sleep quite well, thank you. I don’t have a team.So this is the lefts version of Alex Jones?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.?wprov=sfla1
Do I understand your assertion?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones?wprov=sfla1
Reading both links, they're eerily similar!
You're taking an all or nothing stance. People in general can be influenced by bullshit, but some are more than others and more easily. That's the point. The list of conspiracy theories perpetuated by conservatives is simply daunting. Not so much on the left.
I'm guessing you're all in with the team, thus spin it into some twisted reality where #bothsides are so similar it doesn't phase you.
Jones has millions of viewers, limbaugh millions of viewers and spreads bullshit as well.
Whatever helps you sleep at night...
Thanks for answering the OP's question. Ridiculous appearance acheived, sans realization.
It seems you want to count sheep and not shepherds. Different sheep, different shepherds.People in general can be influenced by bullshit, but some are more than others and more easily.
You’re welcome.Lol...spin it away buddy. Conspiracy theories didn't start with Trump, while he does pander to them. Whether or not he believes them, I dunno, for him it comes down to being an attention whore.
Read the links, post some facts. At this point, you just like the clickity clack sound of your keyboard.
If you read those links, and still think those two are counter to each other, then there's nothing else we can say to each other. This is where we part, as you're the one complaining about dishonesty, while perpetuating dishonesty.
Thanks.
You’re welcome.
There are many conspiracy theories and theorists out there. Trump is the first President to legitimize conspiracy, not surprisingly because conspiracy was his entrance into politics, and he built a coalition by making false promises to the disenfranchised and dangerously energizes the far right fringe.
I read the links. They are wikipedia articles. Could have done that myself. That doesn’t prove anything. I asserted my position on why they are comparable. Nothing dishonest about that. It’s now on you to assert what is different about them.
Or you can punt.
Gay frog conspiracists from CT are the worst kind.If you had read them, you would already know the difference. This is the dishonesty I'm referring to. You continue to prove the OP's original question valid and true.
Regardless of Trump, Conservatives have been spinning their conspiracy theories for a long time. Trump only legitimizes them to get what he wants. So forget Trump, as that's not the topic of debate, and it's not a Trump specific problem.
People legitimized the conspiracy theories by believing them. I've had coworkers rant to me about chemtrails, and no joke....gay frogs. This is in CT, not some red state out in the midwest. They listen, they believe with no evidence, they vote. Nutters gonna nut.
If you had read them, you would already know the difference. This is the dishonesty I'm referring to. You continue to prove the OP's original question valid and true.
Regardless of Trump, Conservatives have been spinning their conspiracy theories for a long time. Trump only legitimizes them to get what he wants. So forget Trump, as that's not the topic of debate, and it's not a Trump specific problem.
People legitimized the conspiracy theories by believing them. I've had coworkers rant to me about chemtrails, and no joke....gay frogs. This is in CT, not some red state out in the midwest. They listen, they believe with no evidence, they vote. Nutters gonna nut.
Gay frog conspiracists from CT are the worst kind.
Nutters gonna nut indeed.
I have heard conservatives rant about Obama’s birth certificate, the left’s control of the media, the government coming for their precious guns and other such nonsense.
I’ve also heard people from the left rant about vaccines, embrace junk science “alternative” medicine, irrationally fear government helicopters and the deep/police state, the vast right wing conspiracy, 9/11 and the Jewish deep state.
And let’s not forget the don’t tread on me libertarians, who occupy their own plane of existence, or Hollywood, which promotes its own unique brand of social sciences and medicine among other things.
Where did I assert equivalence
Forgot who made it, but good point about this russian stuff being a lot like #benghazi.
Umm guys. There’s a problem with that phrase. Just saying.
So what?
Trump also listened to, called into and appeared on Howard Stern. Does that make Stern a mainstream political commentator?
Trump also made donations to Democrats, and identified as such, until he decided to build a coalition of right wing fringe groups.
Now, if you want to comment on how the Republicans are a bunch of hypocrites for getting into bed with Trump, there is no argument there.
If you want examples of liberal commentators that have radio shows of equivalent audience reach and dabble in conspiracies, Robert Kennedy Jr comes to mind. Air America provided comparable commentary before it went under. Jill Stein and the Green Party is where all the liberal conspiracy nuts seem to land. Ground zero for the anti-vax movement was Marin County. The left is home to the 9/11 truther movement.
To say that the left is immune from fringe conspiracy theorists is to approach the question dishonestly.
Jill Stein, the Green party candidate, is the bastion of liberal conspiracy theories? Mate you're nuts.
You also didn't give me the Alex Jones equivalent. He doesn't "dabble" in conspiracies, it's his bread and butter, replete with childish tantrums and fits of rage.
So again, give me the Democrat equivalent of Alex Jones.
This thread is weird. Someone says the Left is not immune to conspiracy theories and people cry false equivalence. An example is given of someone on the Left pushing the vaccines cause autism which shows that at least one can believe bullshit.
So why is his comment being misrepresented?
You should reread what he said. He did not equate Jill Stein to Alex Jones. He said that of the Left, the Green party is where crazies end up.
You are trying to put his comments in the context of a question he is not trying to answer.
Jill Stein, the Green party candidate, is the bastion of liberal conspiracy theories? Mate you're nuts.
Show me where I stated there was an equivalence, false or otherwiseFalse equivalence is the basis for the "they're just as bad" routine you've been running throughout this thread.
I didn't claim that he stated Jill Stein is the equivalent to Alex Jones.
No equivalence to Alex Jones there.
The anti-vaxx movement is across party lines, it is not a liberal thing.
If you actually read the thread the crux of the argument was not that liberals are immune to conspiracy theories, it is that the right is particularly bad about them and they are mainstream in conservatism in way they are not mainstream in liberalism. This is undeniably true, so why it's even being argued is confusing.
So what?
Trump also listened to, called into and appeared on Howard Stern. Does that make Stern a mainstream political commentator?
Trump also made donations to Democrats, and identified as such, until he decided to build a coalition of right wing fringe groups.
Now, if you want to comment on how the Republicans are a bunch of hypocrites for getting into bed with Trump, there is no argument there.
If you want examples of liberal commentators that have radio shows of equivalent audience reach and dabble in conspiracies, Robert Kennedy Jr comes to mind. Air America provided comparable commentary before it went under. Jill Stein and the Green Party is where all the liberal conspiracy nuts seem to land. Ground zero for the anti-vax movement was Marin County. The left is home to the 9/11 truther movement.
To say that the left is immune from fringe conspiracy theorists is to approach the question dishonestly.