Do federal employees have it good?

[smoothvirus]

It wasn't a DUI. I think it was the equivalent of disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and some kind of destruction of property charge.

Also 87k isn't to bad if you are working out of Pax River in Southern MD where housing is significant cheaper but you sitll get the DC cost of living % bonus.

Good money for Southern MD but then you have to put up with all the SMIBs. Also unless you like living in a really rural place you won't like that area. About all they have is Wal-Mart and "cut-rate" liqour stores by the side of the road. And lots of very obnoxious rednecks (the SMIBs).

As for DUI guy, he must not have had a clearance. You really need one to make money here. I know of one guy who got fired and had his clearance yanked (basically, career in DC over) for getting too many parking tickets.

 

[purbeast0]

i work on a government site in Crystal City, VA, and I can tell you first hand, the actual government people that work around me do absolutely jack shit. they literally just talk and laugh all fucking day. it's gotten to the point that i've said something to my manager (i work for a subcontracting company) because there are time i just can't concentrate.

the worst part is, i found out the REALLY annoying guy with the most annoying voice/laugh that i hear all fucking day, is a GS14. i literally have absolutely no clue what these people's actual jobs are, because i've never seen them do work once in the 18 months I've been here.

i also "hear" that he comes in around 6am or so, but he leaves every day about 3pm. i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't work 8 hours a day.

 

[SP33Demon]

It wasn't a DUI. I think it was the equivalent of disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and some kind of destruction of property charge.

Also 87k isn't to bad if you are working out of Pax River in Southern MD where housing is significant cheaper but you sitll get the DC cost of living % bonus. Also besides cost of living increases the increases in steps are pretty much guarenteed at certain time intervals regardless of performance.

Yeah, but you're still in Southern MD. Nice place to raise a family if you're a fed employee, but if right out of college or even single in the 20/30's, it's boring as hell.

 

[Siddhartha]

nevermind

 

[NoCreativity]

It wasn't a DUI. I think it was the equivalent of disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and some kind of destruction of property charge.

Also 87k isn't to bad if you are working out of Pax River in Southern MD where housing is significant cheaper but you sitll get the DC cost of living % bonus. Also besides cost of living increases the increases in steps are pretty much guarenteed at certain time intervals regardless of performance.

Incorrect. Though it is a very rare occurance (depending on location/parent angency) to deny a person their step increase.

 

[smoothvirus]

i work on a government site in Crystal City, VA.

Worked there for 5 years, I actually kind of miss being able to walk to all those resturaunts for lunch.

Crystal Mall 3 represent!

 

[purbeast0]

Worked there for 5 years, I actually kind of miss being able to walk to all those resturaunts for lunch.

Crystal Mall 3 represent!

yah i take the metro from rockville and i don't even have to go above ground once i get to the metro station. it's really convenient. and yea, there are TONS of food options here, but i bring food most of the time so I don't spend so much on lunch every day heh.

 

[Fausto]

Incorrect. Though it is a very rare occurance (depending on location/parent angency) to deny a person their step increase.

True, but a real goldbrick is going to be denied a grade increase and then they'll stall out as the step increases come less frequently once you get past something like GSx-4.

Working for the gov does have some upsides, but there are downsides as well. The notion that federal employees are living high on the hog is utter horseshit.

 

[Zargon]

It wasn't a DUI. I think it was the equivalent of disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and some kind of destruction of property charge.

Also 87k isn't to bad if you are working out of Pax River in Southern MD where housing is significant cheaper but you sitll get the DC cost of living % bonus. Also besides cost of living increases the increases in steps are pretty much guarenteed at certain time intervals regardless of performance.

do you even know if he was convicted of anything or plead out?

if he plead out and wasnt really convicted of anything, they cant do shit, because you cant punish someone for 'nothing', you will get your ass handed to you in court

 

[HydroSqueegee]

hiring freeze is back on for civ jobs here on base. and voluntary seperation is being offered before involuntary seperation is mandated. so my job is mostly secure... but not 100%. starting to sweat since I'm one of the low men.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I came across an article on CNN on top earning towns and the median family incomes in the DC metro area are $367,660 (Rank #1 Great Falls, VA), $191,677 (Rank #13 Potomac, MD), Tyson's Corner, etc.

For those workers mainly in the DC area, don't they have it good?
Aren't they grossly overpaid? I know people making a ton of money in the DC area for not doing anything. Their work hours are strict 9-5 most times and they have job stability. In the private sector, if a company is broke like how the US currently is, people would be losing jobs left and right.

I lol. Ya think? The reason the Fed wants to grow givernment is these overpaid under performing people are their army against WE THE PEOPLE . Look at the post below yours Post 2 . They use terrorism to hold their power . NO big deal its over . They are going the way of the dinosaures. We need them like we do a hole in the head , Which they would likely love to give us. Its easy to see how foodstamps buy votes. People who really WANT to contribute to society are willing to work at it . The broken and downtrodded are there tools their means of control . These people will soon be lifted up and that control will be lost . They know it and are moving to suppression quickly for the Truth is at hand . It would serve we the people better to be truant with our children as the education system is broken and filled with teachers who have an agenda or are not qualified to instill critical thought in our children

 

[Nebor]

The number of GS-13 and GS-14s that work on this (small) Army installation is mind boggling. And they are living high on the hog in the middle of nowhere Louisiana.

 

[her209]

2011 Salary Tables and Related Information
http://www.opm.gov/oca/11tables/index.asp

 

[sactoking]

Yeah, as has been said those #s aren't federal employees. My brother and SIL live in Vienna and used to be in Tyson's Corner. He makes ok money as a pharmaceutical manufacturing process engineer, ~$80-100k. The cost of living is so high that they could not live on his income alone. His wife has a PhD in statistics and a MS in history and does contract work for the gov't. She easily clears $150k.

Federal worker pay, especially in high-cost-of-living Virginia and Maryland, is good not great. The real high earners are the people who do specialized contract work for the gov't and their spouses, who also tend to be highly educated and skilled.

 

[JS80]

We pay trillion dollars to government employees, who take a slice, then hand it to government contractors at ungodly rates, then the crumbs get sent to voting populace

 

[IndyColtsFan]

 

[TecHNooB]

So when does the uprising start?

 

[Triumph]

He said 191-367 HOUSEHOLD. Which is right on the money because since Obama took office, 6 figure federal salaries in the metro area have gone up by over 20% (and that was a 2010 statistic). I'm sure it's even worse now.

$191k for a TWO income household around here is understandable. This is supposed to be the age of enlightenment with women making as much as men, so having two educated people working in a skilled/high demand industry, it's easy to make $190k. But no, these people definitely ain't broke.

 

[sunzt]

Yeah, as has been said those #s aren't federal employees. My brother and SIL live in Vienna and used to be in Tyson's Corner. He makes ok money as a pharmaceutical manufacturing process engineer, ~$80-100k. The cost of living is so high that they could not live on his income alone. His wife has a PhD in statistics and a MS in history and does contract work for the gov't. She easily clears $150k.

Federal worker pay, especially in high-cost-of-living Virginia and Maryland, is good not great. The real high earners are the people who do specialized contract work for the gov't and their spouses, who also tend to be highly educated and skilled.

x100

 

[ProfJohn]

Let's not forget that Great Falls is a tiny town with around 3000 households in it and the vast majority of them are married (probably two income)

80% have at least BA degrees nearly triple the national average.

It is a small town of rich people basically.

 

[SP33Demon]

$191k for a TWO income household around here is understandable. This is supposed to be the age of enlightenment with women making as much as men, so having two educated people working in a skilled/high demand industry, it's easy to make $190k. But no, these people definitely ain't broke.

Yeah when he said family, that pretty much means what you just said. It's pretty reasonable for a husband/wife to pull 191, yep.

 

[Drekce]

He said 191-367 HOUSEHOLD. Which is right on the money because since Obama took office, 6 figure federal salaries in the metro area have gone up by over 20% (and that was a 2010 statistic). I'm sure it's even worse now.

I hate that "six figure income" statistic that's been floating around. It makes it sound like tons of feds suddenly got huge raises or something. It just so happens that in 2009/2010 the GS-13 step 10 salary crossed the 100K threshold because of the 1.x% cost of living increase. The year before all of those same people were making $99K, but the second they cross that threshold it immediately becomes news???

 

[ModerateRepZero]

as people have already pointed out, most of the people making more than low-mid six figures are NOT government employees but contractors, lobbyists, etc. keep in mind that the President makes 400k and Supreme Court Chief Justice makes 217k.

also noted was that 2 things affecting government pay besides the position and pay grade is the "locality pay" (with DC's being high given its high cost of living), and also "side grades" for people who've had the same pay grade for a period of time.

 

[Fausto]

I hate that "six figure income" statistic that's been floating around. It makes it sound like tons of feds suddenly got huge raises or something. It just so happens that in 2009/2010 the GS-13 step 10 salary crossed the 100K threshold because of the 1.x% cost of living increase. The year before all of those same people were making $99K, but the second they cross that threshold it immediately becomes news???

Not to mention there are not a whole hell of a lot of 13's running around. I would wager the vast majority of feds are 7-9.

 

[Triumph]

We pay trillion dollars to government employees, who take a slice, then hand it to government contractors at ungodly rates, then the crumbs get sent to voting populace

I don't know what this means. The fed pays a trillion dollars in government employee salaries every year? Or the fed pays government employees to hire contractors? Or do you mean that federal government salaries are only a small portion of the money that the federal government spends, that being procurement contracts?