Do motorcycles have to be so loud?

MotionMan

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Do motorcycles have to be so loud (You know, those "Hells Angels" type machines)?

Or is it another small pee-pee thing?

MotionMan

 

ballmode

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they are loud, they caught your attention, more likely to be noticed so people dont run them over

zing!
 

Dubb

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it's exactly a small pee pee type of thing. I hate those bikes. especially when you're in traffic next to one and can't carry on a conversation with the passenger in your car because they're so loud.

I've always wanted a device that would make small engines die. it'd be so useful. farty motorcycles, snowmobiles, jetskis...all the anoying little gnat machines.
 

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to quote a friend: "Loud pipes save lives"
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Dubb
it's exactly a small pee pee type of thing. I hate those bikes. especially when you're in traffic next to one and can't carry on a conversation with the passenger in your car because they're so loud.

I've always wanted a device that would make small engines die. it'd be so useful. farty motorcycles, snowmobiles, jetskis...all the anoying little gnat machines.

Actually, it's a life saving thing. With those loud bikes, you're move aware that they are indeed present and less likely to hit a biker.
 

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Originally posted by: Dubb
it's exactly a small pee pee type of thing. I hate those bikes. especially when you're in traffic next to one and can't carry on a conversation with the passenger in your car because they're so loud.

I've always wanted a device that would make small engines die. it'd be so useful. farty motorcycles, snowmobiles, jetskis...all the anoying little gnat machines.

Soooo basically, your saying you don't like fun???
 

Kalvin00

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Oh please, don't tell me the Harley people don't have mufflers to help people from turning into them. They do it because they think their POS v-twin motors sound good :roll:
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Dubb
it's exactly a small pee pee type of thing. I hate those bikes. especially when you're in traffic next to one and can't carry on a conversation with the passenger in your car because they're so loud.

I've always wanted a device that would make small engines die. it'd be so useful. farty motorcycles, snowmobiles, jetskis...all the anoying little gnat machines.

Actually, it's a life saving thing. With those loud bikes, you're move aware that they are indeed present and less likely to hit a biker.

So bikers are all into safety, like wearing helmets all the time and signaling before changing lanes (or, to be more percice, swerving between cars)?

LOL.

MotionMan
 

Baked

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I don't mind them on the road while I'm driving. But when you have a jackass running his harley wannabe POS around the block at 12AM-2AM, you've crossed the line.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Dubb
it's exactly a small pee pee type of thing. I hate those bikes. especially when you're in traffic next to one and can't carry on a conversation with the passenger in your car because they're so loud.

I've always wanted a device that would make small engines die. it'd be so useful. farty motorcycles, snowmobiles, jetskis...all the anoying little gnat machines.

Actually, it's a life saving thing. With those loud bikes, you're move aware that they are indeed present and less likely to hit a biker.

So bikers are all into safety, like wearing helmets all the time and signaling before changing lanes (or, to be more percice, swerving between cars)?

LOL.

MotionMan

The number one danger to motorcyclists is not themselves, it's other people on the road. You can be the safest driver on the road wearing the best equipment, and you're still probably going to get into an accident because of all the morons out there.

When you get into the helmet argument, some people feel that all a helmet is good for is that you wind up being a quadriplegic instead of dead.
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Oh please, don't tell me the Harley people don't have mufflers to help people from turning into them. They do it because they think their POS v-twin motors sound good :roll:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4353853.stm

A hyrdrogen powered bike that they're adding an artifical noisemaker to due to safety concerns.

The article talks about "concerns" about it being to quiet, but does not back it up with any facts.

MotionMan
 

Kalvin00

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Originally posted by: MotionMan

The article talks about "concerns" about it being to quiet, but does not back it up with any facts.

MotionMan

Yeah. My bike, a ninja 250, has a stock exhaust (read: quiet) and i've never had anyone switch lanes into me. It's as easy as staying out of people's blind spots. The loud pipes argument is BS.
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Dubb
it's exactly a small pee pee type of thing. I hate those bikes. especially when you're in traffic next to one and can't carry on a conversation with the passenger in your car because they're so loud.

I've always wanted a device that would make small engines die. it'd be so useful. farty motorcycles, snowmobiles, jetskis...all the anoying little gnat machines.

Actually, it's a life saving thing. With those loud bikes, you're move aware that they are indeed present and less likely to hit a biker.

So bikers are all into safety, like wearing helmets all the time and signaling before changing lanes (or, to be more percice, swerving between cars)?

LOL.

MotionMan

The number one danger to motorcyclists is not themselves, it's other people on the road. You can be the safest driver on the road wearing the best equipment, and you're still probably going to get into an accident because of all the morons out there.

When you get into the helmet argument, some people feel that all a helmet is good for is that you wind up being a quadriplegic instead of dead.

If motorcyclists know that there are morons out there who tend to not see them, then maybe, just MAYBE, the motorcyclists should change their behavior (i.e. drive safer and more defensive), and not expect the morons to do so.

The concern about helmets has nothing to do with quadriplegia, it has to do with ending up a vegetable or dead vs. walking away from accidents. Helmets do not prevent spinal injuries (at least as far as I know). My wife and my former sister-in-law were speech therapists. Far too many of their clients were 20-40 year old moto-vegis who did not wear a helmet who now had to relearn how to speak.

In any event, I have seen loud motorcycles cause car drivers to swerve from fear. I have to think a few accidents have been caused by loud motorcycles.

MotionMan
 

SampSon

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Why do people have to care so much and bitch incessantly about what other people do?

Move to Cambodia.
 

CKent

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For most riders, pissing people off is definitely a part of the appeal. Guess they're fulfilling their instinct to rebel... many of them at the age of 50+, with giant beer guts
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Dubb
it's exactly a small pee pee type of thing. I hate those bikes. especially when you're in traffic next to one and can't carry on a conversation with the passenger in your car because they're so loud.

I've always wanted a device that would make small engines die. it'd be so useful. farty motorcycles, snowmobiles, jetskis...all the anoying little gnat machines.

Actually, it's a life saving thing. With those loud bikes, you're move aware that they are indeed present and less likely to hit a biker.

So bikers are all into safety, like wearing helmets all the time and signaling before changing lanes (or, to be more percice, swerving between cars)?

LOL.

MotionMan

The number one danger to motorcyclists is not themselves, it's other people on the road. You can be the safest driver on the road wearing the best equipment, and you're still probably going to get into an accident because of all the morons out there.

When you get into the helmet argument, some people feel that all a helmet is good for is that you wind up being a quadriplegic instead of dead.

If motorcyclists know that there are morons out there who tend to not see them, then maybe, just MAYBE, the motorcyclists should change their behavior (i.e. drive safer and more defensive), and not expect the morons to do so.

The concern about helmets has nothing to do with quadriplegia, it has to do with ending up a vegetable or dead vs. walking away from accidents. Helmets do not prevent spinal injuries (at least as far as I know). My wife and my former sister-in-law were speech therapists. Far too many of their clients were 20-40 year old moto-vegis who did not wear a helmet who now had to relearn how to speak.

In any event, I have seen loud motorcycles cause car drivers to swerve from fear. I have to think a few accidents have been caused by loud motorcycles.

MotionMan

Like BigJ mentioned, the more frequent danger to a motorcyclist isn't his/her own driving, but the driving of everyone around them. I don't do any of the "typical" a$$-holish motorcycle things (no lane splitting, I always use my blinkers, I travel with the flow of traffic rather than popping wheelies at 120 down the highway, etc.), and I still almost get hit at least once a week or so. Keep in mind that I also make a very conscious effort to stay out of people's blind spots, give myself as much of a pocket of space as possible regarding the cars around me, etc.

People just do NOT see you. At all. Hell, they hardly even notice the huge SUV right next to them. Part of the reason for the loud exhaust note is that yes, most of us riders are enthusiasts, and we love the sound of a good engine. But there are safety concerns as well.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: BigJ

The number one danger to motorcyclists is not themselves, it's other people on the road. You can be the safest driver on the road wearing the best equipment, and you're still probably going to get into an accident because of all the morons out there.

When you get into the helmet argument, some people feel that all a helmet is good for is that you wind up being a quadriplegic instead of dead.

If motorcyclists know that there are morons out there who tend to not see them, then maybe, just MAYBE, the motorcyclists should change their behavior (i.e. drive safer and more defensive), and not expect the morons to do so.

The concern about helmets has nothing to do with quadriplegia, it has to do with ending up a vegetable or dead vs. walking away from accidents. Helmets do not prevent spinal injuries (at least as far as I know). My wife and my former sister-in-law were speech therapists. Far too many of their clients were 20-40 year old moto-vegis who did not wear a helmet who now had to relearn how to speak.

In any event, I have seen loud motorcycles cause car drivers to swerve from fear. I have to think a few accidents have been caused by loud motorcycles.

MotionMan

Um, yes they do. It's a common saying that they'd rather end up dead than a quad. The helmet protects the head from absorbing all the blunt trauma, but that still doesn't stop the person from breaking their neck. That's why the argument is quad vs. death, not vegetable vs. walking away from an accident. You're describing something completely different.

And again, there are PLENTY of people that drive perfectly safe and still wind up getting into accidents because of moron drivers. Look at Big Ben for prime example of this. They lady TURNED into him when he was riding his bike, coming in the opposite direction.

Define what you mean by loud, are you talking about people that tamper with their mufflers, or are you talking about stock bikes? I wouldn't doubt that there may have been accidents due to people tampering with their mufflers, just like I wouldn't doubt the same is true on cars.
 

sisq0kidd

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They don't have to be so loud, they're just jackasses. I'm willing to bet a highly-visible (orange) jacket would be more effective. But of course that doesn't fit into their psuedo-macho culture.

They're no better than ricers and raised trucks.
 
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