Do muscles "really" need time to recover? Gymnasts seem to do fine without recovery

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Zivic

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Didn't he do a live drug test recently? Not saying he couldn't have just cycled off for the test but he did just do a bodybuilding comp too so it wouldn't have been the best timing to cycle off far enough in advance for everything to be out of his system. Or maybe on something they're not testing for.

I have no idea.. I don't follow him much any more. I am not accusing anyone of taking anything. The only one that really knows what a person is taking is that person. If you want my opinion on whether a person is using, I would say CT is or maybe better stated "does use"
 

alkemyst

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A medal, maybe not. But, an award at an event hosted in Vegas every year? I'm sure if she really tried.

She probably could have, she was sitting on an inheritance with major college wings named after her parent's though.

She liked to smoke pot all day and sell off art work from the 'archives'.
 

blackdogdeek

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My daughter used to do gymnastics competitively between the ages of 7 and 9. Here is what the training schedule looked like:

during the school year: M-W-F 17:30 - 21:00, Sa 12:00-15:00
during the summer: M-T-W-Th-F 08:30 - 12:30

Interestingly, none of them looked particularly muscular. But, at that level they weren't doing anything crazy yet. The most difficult movements they performed were round-off to back handspring. Everything else stressed flexibility and balance.

However, the year after my daughter stopped competing we saw one of her friends who was still training at the same facility and she already had ridiculously muscular shoulders and lats. I suspect the movements they trained on the uneven bars and floor were getting much more difficult.
 

alkemyst

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My daughter used to do gymnastics competitively between the ages of 7 and 9. Here is what the training schedule looked like:

during the school year: M-W-F 17:30 - 21:00, Sa 12:00-15:00
during the summer: M-T-W-Th-F 08:30 - 12:30

Interestingly, none of them looked particularly muscular. But, at that level they weren't doing anything crazy yet. The most difficult movements they performed were round-off to back handspring. Everything else stressed flexibility and balance.

However, the year after my daughter stopped competing we saw one of her friends who was still training at the same facility and she already had ridiculously muscular shoulders and lats. I suspect the movements they trained on the uneven bars and floor were getting much more difficult.


Like any "karate", "tumbling", et al school... it's typical.

They are getting paid for your future hopeful.
 

gotsmack

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I have no idea.. I don't follow him much any more. I am not accusing anyone of taking anything. The only one that really knows what a person is taking is that person. If you want my opinion on whether a person is using, I would say CT is or maybe better stated "does use"

CT put up an announcement that if you go down to his gym any day of the week unannounced he'll take any test you bring.
 

Koing

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My daughter used to do gymnastics competitively between the ages of 7 and 9. Here is what the training schedule looked like:

during the school year: M-W-F 17:30 - 21:00, Sa 12:00-15:00
during the summer: M-T-W-Th-F 08:30 - 12:30

Interestingly, none of them looked particularly muscular. But, at that level they weren't doing anything crazy yet. The most difficult movements they performed were round-off to back handspring. Everything else stressed flexibility and balance.

However, the year after my daughter stopped competing we saw one of her friends who was still training at the same facility and she already had ridiculously muscular shoulders and lats. I suspect the movements they trained on the uneven bars and floor were getting much more difficult.

Your daughter was probably too young to be muscular and womens gymnastics is nothing like mens gymnastics. She probably would have gotten more muscular as she hit puberty and used more apparatuses. She probably didn't eat enough either for her crazy activity levels.

Koing
 

Koing

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Didn't he do a live drug test recently? Not saying he couldn't have just cycled off for the test but he did just do a bodybuilding comp too so it wouldn't have been the best timing to cycle off far enough in advance for everything to be out of his system. Or maybe on something they're not testing for.

Passing a drugs test only means you were clean for that test. The numerous athletes caught for drugs later on can attest to that.

Koing
 

QueBert

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Passing a drugs test only means you were clean for that test. The numerous athletes caught for drugs later on can attest to that.

Koing

The drug test he took was requested by somebody else though. They called him out and he ended up taking a test pretty much right away. He's also put out a vblog saying he'll take any drug test anyone wants anytime, all they have to do is drop by his gym.
 

Zivic

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The drug test he took was requested by somebody else though. They called him out and he ended up taking a test pretty much right away. He's also put out a vblog saying he'll take any drug test anyone wants anytime, all they have to do is drop by his gym.

That is cool. Honestly I don't care either way. His choice, his body and it still requires hard work and dedication whether you use or don't use.

I have no issue with people using.... I have issue with people that use and claim they don't. I understand there are legal issues with coming out and saying, "hey I use illegal drugs".
 

Zivic

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Passing a drugs test only means you were clean for that test. The numerous athletes caught for drugs later on can attest to that.

Koing

or you are on something that isn't being tested for. Only person that knows what a person is on is that person. Not you or me speculating on the net; not even a drug test
 

SP33Demon

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Your daughter was probably too young to be muscular and womens gymnastics is nothing like mens gymnastics. She probably would have gotten more muscular as she hit puberty and used more apparatuses. She probably didn't eat enough either for her crazy activity levels.

Koing

Yep, this is true. Men's gymnastics, especially after they have hit puberty is a whole other ballgame. Most of those guys are pretty jacked.
 

Koing

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or you are on something that isn't being tested for. Only person that knows what a person is on is that person. Not you or me speculating on the net; not even a drug test

I'm just saying passing a drugs test doesn't mean that much. Also not all drugs test are equal. The college drug test for college athletes and sports aren't the same as WADA and Olympic level testing.

Yep, this is true. Men's gymnastics, especially after they have hit puberty is a whole other ballgame. Most of those guys are pretty jacked.

Indeed.

The drug test he took was requested by somebody else though. They called him out and he ended up taking a test pretty much right away. He's also put out a vblog saying he'll take any drug test anyone wants anytime, all they have to do is drop by his gym.

Tyson Gay also fronted a 100% clean anti drugs campaign as well. He was also subjected to out of comp testing that is going to be more comprehensive than any normal person would have to put up with.

Koing
 
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insa80

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Every person is different, don't work out again until you feel no muscle pain. Could be 3 or 4 days. Just wait. If you work out to soon you are not going to help your muscles recover and grow


 
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