Do people care more about animals than they do about humans?

[BrunoPuntzJones]

My dog would give his life to protect mine. He gives everything and asks almost nothing in return.

People don't hesitate to screw you the second they can get away with it.

 

[ChaoZ]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
My dog would give his life to protect mine. He gives everything and asks almost nothing in return.

People don't hesitate to screw you the second they can get away with it.

Did your dog tell you that?

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
My dog would give his life to protect mine. He gives everything and asks almost nothing in return.

People don't hesitate to screw you the second they can get away with it.

:thumbsup:

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: Canai
Humans can take care of / think for themselves. Animals rely on humans for their food, water, living conditions etc....

So yes, I care more about animals than most humans.

You're right. I better run out right now and feed my deer and coyotes.

Ok, obviously I wasn't talking about wild animals. Wild animals aren't usually the ones who are abused / neglected, due to the fact THEY ARE WILD.

I fucking hate how ATOT finds a single weak point in the argument and blows it way out of proportion in absurd ways.

I agree with this man all around.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: Canai
Humans can take care of / think for themselves. Animals rely on humans for their food, water, living conditions etc....

So yes, I care more about animals than most humans.

You're right. I better run out right now and feed my deer and coyotes.

Ok, obviously I wasn't talking about wild animals. Wild animals aren't usually the ones who are abused / neglected, due to the fact THEY ARE WILD.

I fucking hate how ATOT finds a single weak point in the argument and blows it way out of proportion in absurd ways.

I fucking hate how ATOT focuses on a single statement and presumes that the writer is just out to be a dick, blowing it way out of proportion in absurd ways.

Why should wild vs domestic even be an issue? Any animal can learn to adapt to the wild... even your precious doggies or kitties... or as SlitheryDee pointed out, humans as well. If I took a cat that had been living with me for 2 years, and put them out on the street, they'd be just fine. You think homeless people were born on the street?

When a human gives birth, the baby needs CONSTANT supervision for a very long time. When a dog gives birth, the pups feed off the mother for a short time and then are fine after a couple weeks. When a horse gives birth, the foal stands up immediately. Personally I'm amazed that humans made it to where we are today.

You all seem to focus on the fact that humans are the only ones being bad to animals. I've seen cats play with mice... literally play with them, not eat them... bat them around, throw them up in the air... then the little mice runs away.

Should you be upset at that cat for toying with the poor helpless little mouse? Or will you just chalk that up to "oh, thats just in its nature"?

 

[Flyback]

Can you make a case for why we *should* care for a random asshole human more than our pets?

 

[ranmaniac]

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: Canai
Humans can take care of / think for themselves. Animals rely on humans for their food, water, living conditions etc....

So yes, I care more about animals than most humans.

You're right. I better run out right now and feed my deer and coyotes.

Ok, obviously I wasn't talking about wild animals. Wild animals aren't usually the ones who are abused / neglected, due to the fact THEY ARE WILD.

I fucking hate how ATOT finds a single weak point in the argument and blows it way out of proportion in absurd ways.

I fucking hate how ATOT focuses on a single statement and presumes that the writer is just out to be a dick, blowing it way out of proportion in absurd ways.

Why should wild vs domestic even be an issue? Any animal can learn to adapt to the wild... even your precious doggies or kitties... or as SlitheryDee pointed out, humans as well. If I took a cat that had been living with me for 2 years, and put them out on the street, they'd be just fine. You think homeless people were born on the street?

When a human gives birth, the baby needs CONSTANT supervision for a very long time. When a dog gives birth, the pups feed off the mother for a short time and then are fine after a couple weeks. When a horse gives birth, the foal stands up immediately. Personally I'm amazed that humans made it to where we are today.

You all seem to focus on the fact that humans are the only ones being bad to animals. I've seen cats play with mice... literally play with them, not eat them... bat them around, throw them up in the air... then the little mice runs away.

Should you be upset at that cat for toying with the poor helpless little mouse? Or will you just chalk that up to "oh, thats just in its nature"?

Yeah, and Toonces the driving cat keeps killing those people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA4djg6ILxU

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: Flyback
Can you make a case for why we *should* care for a random asshole human more than our pets?

Why are people you don't know considered "random assholes" by you?

furthermore, the thread was not simply aimed at personal pets, but animals in general. You may understand that if you read the first post.

 

[judasmachine]

It's just easier to like an animal than it is to like a human. A dog for instance will not gossip, and will not cheat on you, or even really lie for that matter. People are cruel to each other, and do very stupid things when they do know better.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
It's just easier to like an animal than it is to like a human. A dog for instance will not gossip, and will not cheat on you, or even really lie for that matter. People are cruel to each other, and do very stupid things when they do know better.

true, but if i'm in a car accident, choking on a piece of steak, or having a heart attack a human is going to be a hellava lot more help to me than an animal. it's not that i don't care about animals, it's about perspective.

i don't think animal life > human life, and anyone who does is a wack job.

 

[lokiju]

I had a discussion about this after seeing a movie where a dog died.

People reacted more to the dog dying than they did the main character.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: judasmachine
It's just easier to like an animal than it is to like a human. A dog for instance will not gossip, and will not cheat on you, or even really lie for that matter. People are cruel to each other, and do very stupid things when they do know better.

true, but if i'm in a car accident, choking on a piece of steak, or having a heart attack a human is going to be a hellava lot more help to me than an animal. it's not that i don't care about animals, it's about perspective.

i don't think animal life > human life, and anyone who does is a wack job.

You definitely have a point, you dog doesn't know the Heimlich maneuver. All I'm saying is on a personal level it's easier (intellectually and emotionally lazy perhaps) to love an animal than a person.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: judasmachine
It's just easier to like an animal than it is to like a human. A dog for instance will not gossip, and will not cheat on you, or even really lie for that matter. People are cruel to each other, and do very stupid things when they do know better.

true, but if i'm in a car accident, choking on a piece of steak, or having a heart attack a human is going to be a hellava lot more help to me than an animal. it's not that i don't care about animals, it's about perspective.

i don't think animal life > human life, and anyone who does is a wack job.

You definitely have a point, you dog doesn't know the Heimlich maneuver. All I'm saying is on a personal level it's easier (intellectually and emotionally lazy perhaps) to love an animal than a person.

sure, an animal gives us unconditional love, but a human can take it to the next level and be a sexual partner. (whereas i'm not into beastiality.)

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: judasmachine
It's just easier to like an animal than it is to like a human. A dog for instance will not gossip, and will not cheat on you, or even really lie for that matter. People are cruel to each other, and do very stupid things when they do know better.

true, but if i'm in a car accident, choking on a piece of steak, or having a heart attack a human is going to be a hellava lot more help to me than an animal. it's not that i don't care about animals, it's about perspective.

i don't think animal life > human life, and anyone who does is a wack job.

You definitely have a point, you dog doesn't know the Heimlich maneuver. All I'm saying is on a personal level it's easier (intellectually and emotionally lazy perhaps) to love an animal than a person.

sure, an animal gives us unconditional love, but a human can take it to the next level and be a sexual partner. (whereas i'm not into bestiality.)

Very true. No further comment necessary.

 

[Vonkhan]

I'd stop to help an animal

a human ? not so much ... f 'em

 

[Linux23]

I fvcking loathe human beings.

Disgusting creatures.

 

[Xavier434]

Animals hold a greater innocence than humans in the minds of many people. That's about it.

 

[Linflas]

There is no reason you can't care about both. The problem is the vast majority of people have no empathy for other creatures they share this planet with and can come up with the most convoluted reasons for inflicting unthinkable cruelty on them be they human or animal. The difference is that humans have plenty of people that speak out for and try to help alleviate suffering. People that try to do the same for animals in many cases receive nothing but disdain and criticism for attempting to do the same thing.

 

[manowar821]

God some of you people are assholes.

BTW, I didn't vote because I value both humans and animals the same, because we are in-fact, ANIMALS. It's my thought that the people who value one over the other actually have something wrong with them.

 

[Lamont Burns]

Animals & Kids > Adults I guess I would say.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: LAMONTBURNS
Animals & Kids > Adults I guess I would say.

Not really, one mistake that people that help animals make is in trying to equate them with kids. All that does is produce a strong emotional counter response that in some ways harms the cause they are working on.

 

[jandrews]

animals have some rights in my book and one of them is not to die cruely or to be treated especially cruel. As far as right to life, animals lives are never worth that of another humans (with some possible rare exceptions). Those people that would rather see a person die than their cat make me sick.

 

[KB]

Animals (dogs in this case) take food you can spare, shelter you can spare and the love you can spare and give you everything they have in return. Humans complain they aren't getting enough of anything. Which do you like better?

 

[Descartes]

I don't think it has anything to do with how the animals treat us. There are plenty of people that dedicate their lives to the study and conversation of species that would eat the researchers if they only had the chance. Not everyone expresses empathy only through anthropomorphization...

So, I think the issue is quite simple: People empathize with other animals, human or not, that are not in a position to protect themselves. This includes children, dolphins or elephants that get poached for their tusks. Some dedicate themselves to the prevention of child abuse while others pick elephants. We're all species of the same planet. Everyone tries to make a difference where they feel they'll have the most impact.

 

[KeithTalent]

I like approximately 58% of the humans I encounter in the world.

I like approximately 99% of the animals I encounter in the world.

Do I care more about one over the other? Not sure, I never really thought about it. I think I just care for more for those who are close to me, whether they are animal, vegetable, or mineral.

KT