Do some public toilets in India not have toilet paper?

[kalster]

now you know why your tandoori chicken tastes so good

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: kalster
now you know why your tandoori chicken tastes so good

:barf;

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: kalster
now you know why your tandoori chicken tastes so good

Special Sauce?

This has been one of the most informative and entertaining threads in ATOT, which means it will probably be locked soon.

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: kalster
now you know why your tandoori chicken tastes so good

Special Sauce?

This has been one of the most informative and entertaining threads in ATOT, which means it will probably be locked soon.

QFT

 

[jbaggins]

Looks like some people have another agenda. I'm not going to sit and and try to make my point, it looks like you've already made up your mind. I could care less what you think, really, I'm just trying to share my insight since I've been there and you haven't.

If you still think what I'm saying is B.S., more power to ya, I really don't care. Regarding my 90% thing, of course I did not go to 100 places and took a notebook and wrote it down, but let me put it this way, I was there for 1 month, and probably went to over 300 restaurants, office buildings, hotels, ,peoples houses, theaters, the airport, combined. That would be a fair guess. Out of that, I remember ONE place that did not have it. That is actually less than 10%, but I'm being critical there.

I don't know what it does for you to think otherwise, and I don't really care to spend time trying to figure it out. At least have the decency to not argue with me on a place that you've never even been to. Thats just absurd. Even the original poster commented on not knowing if it was rural or urban settings.

I find the entire thread humorous btw, I'm taking it lightly, even though some of the posts can be construed as highly predujiced.

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: jbaggins
Nice on the spot statistics the one person you talked with made. Unless she went to rural areas, or very poor parts of major cities, she is grossly exaggerating if she says 50%. at least 90-95% of decent public toilets in major cities like Delhi and Bombay have toilet paper.

And regarding 25-50% not washing hands? I can't speak on where you live, but in Houston, the majority of people DON'T wash their hands after taking a piss.

edit: since you haven't even been to India, you really can't argue with me on what goes on in major cities there. I've been there twice this year. Again, it will depend on what class of places you go to and if you are in major cities or not. I cannot comment on rural areas, or very lousy establishments. If the person you talked to went along time ago, went to lousy establishments, or went to rural areas, she can be correct, I cannot comment on that. but 90% of decent places in metropolitan areas do not have this problem. 90% of where business people go, travellers go (unless you talk about bohemian backpacker types), and middle class and above people do not have this problem.

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: jbaggins
This thread is getting totally retarded. First of all, in India, I think 90% of urban dwellers use toilet paper, hence the toilet paper in most public places (90% at least in delhi).

Second, I seriously doubt any *normal* people from developing nations (again, this is not restricted to India, many parts of the middle east, Turkey, and as I said before, even 'Western' Italy used to (some probably still do)) STILL use their hands once they come to the United States.

I have not heard of one person that does that here, and I know thousands.

Third, to be totally honest, out of 10 people that leave a public restroom, 9 Anglos will NOT wash their hands, and you guys know that.

Nice made-up on the spot statistics. I haven't been to India. The one person that talked about this situation to me that has gone to India painted a quite different picture. It was nowhere near 90% using TP. MAYBE 50% and that's being generous based on what she told me.

9/10 (90%) leaving the restroom without washing? No. I agree it's a problem but it's nowhere near that much. I'd say it's somewhere between 25% and 50% when pissing and maybe 5% when crapping.

No, I have no research or sources. Those are my own made-up statistics based on my own observations.

Now that we know you visited a country with over a BILLION people twice this year, I'm sure everyone feels much more confident believing your 'statistics'.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: jbaggins
Nice on the spot statistics the one person you talked with made. Unless she went to rural areas, or very poor parts of major cities, she is grossly exaggerating if she says 50%. at least 90-95% of decent public toilets in major cities like Delhi and Bombay have toilet paper.

And regarding 25-50% not washing hands? I can't speak on where you live, but in Houston, the majority of people DON'T wash their hands after taking a piss.

I don't wash my hands after taking a piss. If I use a public restroom the only thing I touch is my d!ck.

That could actually start a new debate / thread.

If you aren't carrying an STD, your penis is actually cleaner than the environment you are touching with your hands. So perhaps men should wash their hands BEFORE pissing so as to keep the penis clean. It's an idea that hit me a few years ago when I was working in hospital labs. At that time, I DID make sure to wash with soap BEFORE pissing and after.

Yeah I always wash before and after too, and I always open the door with the hand I dont use to piss.

 

[jbaggins]

If thats the case, then I find it really odd. I always thought that the paper thing (or lack thereof) was due to circumstances. Preferring it over tp is strange to me. Don't really know why they do that if its true. Can't comment. But I do want to reiterate that this happens in many countries folks, most posters on here are apparently only familiar with highly industrialized Western nations.

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
jbaggins,
You are the first one who said that some people in India, in urban areas, do use TP. All the other Indian guys here were saying what I've posted above.
Also, what I got from the other Indians is that they still use their hands. Upon checking out their profile, I also noticed that they're, indeed, in the states. Even worse, they still do believe that it's THE clean method. How can I believe your data when real Indians are telling me something different than yours?

 

[jbaggins]

yeah, but then what happens to the poor fella who shakes your hands 5 minutes later?

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: jbaggins
Nice on the spot statistics the one person you talked with made. Unless she went to rural areas, or very poor parts of major cities, she is grossly exaggerating if she says 50%. at least 90-95% of decent public toilets in major cities like Delhi and Bombay have toilet paper.

And regarding 25-50% not washing hands? I can't speak on where you live, but in Houston, the majority of people DON'T wash their hands after taking a piss.

I don't wash my hands after taking a piss. If I use a public restroom the only thing I touch is my d!ck.

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: jbaggins
Nice on the spot statistics the one person you talked with made. Unless she went to rural areas, or very poor parts of major cities, she is grossly exaggerating if she says 50%. at least 90-95% of decent public toilets in major cities like Delhi and Bombay have toilet paper.

And regarding 25-50% not washing hands? I can't speak on where you live, but in Houston, the majority of people DON'T wash their hands after taking a piss.

I don't wash my hands after taking a piss. If I use a public restroom the only thing I touch is my d!ck.

That could actually start a new debate / thread.

If you aren't carrying an STD, your penis is actually cleaner than the environment you are touching with your hands. So perhaps men should wash their hands BEFORE pissing so as to keep the penis clean. It's an idea that hit me a few years ago when I was working in hospital labs. At that time, I DID make sure to wash with soap BEFORE pissing and after.

Yeah I always wash before and after too, and I always open the door with the hand I dont use to piss.

If it is a push door I use my elbow. Pull I have tissue in my pocket.

 

[jbaggins]

Ever find a wad of paper towel near the bathroom exit door? Or, if the trash can is near the exit door, just shy of being inside the can (when i have a bad aim day)?

I've been there.

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: jbaggins
Nice on the spot statistics the one person you talked with made. Unless she went to rural areas, or very poor parts of major cities, she is grossly exaggerating if she says 50%. at least 90-95% of decent public toilets in major cities like Delhi and Bombay have toilet paper.

And regarding 25-50% not washing hands? I can't speak on where you live, but in Houston, the majority of people DON'T wash their hands after taking a piss.

I don't wash my hands after taking a piss. If I use a public restroom the only thing I touch is my d!ck.

That could actually start a new debate / thread.

If you aren't carrying an STD, your penis is actually cleaner than the environment you are touching with your hands. So perhaps men should wash their hands BEFORE pissing so as to keep the penis clean. It's an idea that hit me a few years ago when I was working in hospital labs. At that time, I DID make sure to wash with soap BEFORE pissing and after.

Yeah I always wash before and after too, and I always open the door with the hand I dont use to piss.

 

[aidanjm]

can't believe this thread is still going

 

[jbaggins]

the neffers are out tonight.

I'm gonna stop in this thread pretty soon, though.

Originally posted by: aidanjm
can't believe this thread is still going

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: jbaggins
Looks like some people have another agenda. I'm not going to sit and and try to make my point, it looks like you've already made up your mind. I could care less what you think, really, I'm just trying to share my insight since I've been there and you haven't.

If you still think what I'm saying is B.S., more power to ya, I really don't care. Regarding my 90% thing, of course I did not go to 100 places and took a notebook and wrote it down, but let me put it this way, I was there for 1 month, and probably went to over 300 restaurants, office buildings, hotels, ,peoples houses, theaters, the airport, combined. That would be a fair guess. Out of that, I remember ONE place that did not have it. That is actually less than 10%, but I'm being critical there.

I don't know what it does for you to think otherwise, and I don't really care to spend time trying to figure it out. At least have the decency to not argue with me on a place that you've never even been to. Thats just absurd. Even the original poster commented on not knowing if it was rural or urban settings.

I find the entire thread humorous btw, I'm taking it lightly, even though some of the posts can be construed as highly predujiced.

I was saying your "9/10 white people don't wash hands" statistic was BS. I believe you that some urban places in India use TP, especially since other posters noted that you can usually buy TP before entering the restroom, but that country is HUGE and I doubt that you can speak so authoritatively on this subject from visiting only a few places. Plus most of the other Indians, and people who visited India in this thread have said that using TP is not common there.

Maybe TP is only common in affluent areas there?

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
HOW THE FVCK DOES THE ASS GET DRIED?????!!!!

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: jbaggins
If thats the case, then I find it really odd. I always thought that the paper thing (or lack thereof) was due to circumstances. Preferring it over tp is strange to me. Don't really know why they do that if its true. Can't comment. But I do want to reiterate that this happens in many countries folks, most posters on here are apparently only familiar with highly industrialized Western nations.

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
jbaggins,
You are the first one who said that some people in India, in urban areas, do use TP. All the other Indian guys here were saying what I've posted above.
Also, what I got from the other Indians is that they still use their hands. Upon checking out their profile, I also noticed that they're, indeed, in the states. Even worse, they still do believe that it's THE clean method. How can I believe your data when real Indians are telling me something different than yours?

Wrong. I'm not a westerner. I'm, too, an Asian who grew up in Asia. My country is pretty much devoloped now but before that, when my country was as poor as Camobodia/Laos, people did not wipe their ass with hands. For 5000 years of my country's history, they've used something like a rope or leaf. I've been to other underdeveloped nations and they do not use freaking hands although their living condition is like monkeys. How much do you know about India than Indians who lived there? 300 restaurants in a month??? Umm...ok.... Being in India a few times make you an more expert than real Indians? I think NASA need to send you to outer space as you'd soon find out secrets of universe.

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
HOW THE FVCK DOES THE ASS GET DRIED?????!!!!

 

[Deadtrees]

From http://www.plumbingworld.com/toilethistoryindia.html

"In the remains of Harappa civilization in India, at a place called Lothal 62 kilometers from the city of Ahmedabad in Western India) and in the year 2500 BC, the people had water borne toilets in each house and which was linked with drains covered with burnt clay bricks. To facilitate operations and maintenance, it had manhole covers, chambers etc. It was the finest form of sanitary engineering. But with the decline of Indus valley civilization, the science of sanitary engineering disappeared from India. From then on, the toilets in India remained primitive and open defecation became rampant.

In my own country i.e. India, how can any one ignore the subject of toilet when the society is faced with human excretions of the order of 900 million liters of urine and 135 million kilograms of fecal matter per day with totally inadequate system of its collection and disposal. The society, thus, has a constant threat of health hazards and epidemics. As many as 600 out of 900 million people do open defecation. Sewerage facilities are available to no more than 30 per cent of population in urban areas and only 3 per cent of rural population has access to pour flush latrines

In India it is very common to use water for ablution. However, the hand one uses varies in various parts of India. While in South India, people use the right hand for eating food, it is considered disgusting to use the same hand for ablution with water. So left hand is used for sanitary purposes. In most parts of the North India, however, no such sharp distinction exists.

Household hygiene habits of ordinary people left much to be desired. The dry latrines using bucket was cleaned by menials. These workers came to be known as Bucket Brigades'.

According to Hiroshi Umino, European culture blossomed forth after contact with Crusaders from the East. Washing hands for example before food also became popular. The social reformers admonished the people by saying "suck your fingers beast, do not wipe them on the wall". "

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
HOW THE FVCK DOES THE ASS GET DRIED?????!!!!

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
HOW THE FVCK DOES THE ASS GET DRIED?????!!!!

"Below is a true account of a wogs toilet tales in India......

If you were waiting outside the toilet back home and the rush of spilling water was heard, you would presume there was something wrong. Either the toilet was blocked and water was being used from a bucket to clear the mess or someone had dropped something precious into the bowl and was using the toilet brush to retrieve it. That's generally the right pattern of thought unless of course you are in India!

During my first experience with an Indian toilet I had questioned the need for a bucket filled with water and a small ladle in the toilets, it always seemed to be there for precautionary measures (Toilet pressure lacks real guts in certain areas, it therefore takes more than one flush to expel any unwanted guests). I had heard from Local Indians that water was used as the local cleaning agent as opposed to the standard "Sorbet two-ply", but realistically it seemed impossible to get that real dry feel after you had splashed a ladle of water down your backside.

Well! Toilets in India cater for the Indian first as they should. The toilet paper holder is not essential to the bathroom, although a small tap Water bucket and a matching ladle are essential. When a toilet does possess a paper holder it is usually too small. The normal sized paper doesn't fit. You see as people don't generally use paper the need for it is not there; its the old supply and demand! No demand small supply.

That brings me to the touchy topic of the cleaning method. Not that I have actually seen this method in any way. The person is suppose to pour a ladle with water down the backside and with the left hand scrub vigorously until the area is clean. That is why you will find Indians only eat with their right hand. It is in fact an insult to be touched with the left. Some beggars pass their left hand over your shoulder when dissatisfied with the lack of donations you give them. This poses an interesting question? What do left handed people do? Eat and drink etc with their right hand that's what! At restaurants all the Indians will use their right hand to get a piece of bread and dip into the food the left does nothing. I have found myself looking at peoples nails to see how long they are. (Some Indian clerical staff will grow their little fingerail to extraordinary lengths to show the people in the same caste that they have jobs where they do not need to use their hands, therefore able to grow nails.)

For me the most pressing question was one of dryness. How the hell do you pour one litre of water down your back and not remain uncomfortably Wet! Well from what I have managed to gather, for the poor classes it is not a problem as the clothing is easily removed and dried in the Indian Sun. For those wearing jeans though it could be quite difficult. The hot conditions also help in the drying process. At the local Loo there are times where the whole floor is covered with water, its obvious someone has had a big lunch and has lost control of the ladle. At times like this the toilet also contains a rubber mop to push all the excess water into the drain. When there are puddles at your feet the best thing to do is come back later.

The sitting position may have lots to do with the style used. When I first moved into the apartment, I found that both toilets had seats that moved sideways. It was pretty difficult to damage two toilet seats in the same house. I put this though to the poor quality of the product therefore payed no attention. Some time later while at a party I discovered a seat that had the same problem as my own, the difference being that this seat had the mud stains of a pair of shoes on either side of the seat. The answer was there before me, the Indian does not sit on the toilet seat rather steps up and squats. The shear weight of a person squatting is what ruins the seats. Every time I see broken toilet seat I think of the poor soul that fell off while trying to relieve themselves. It must also be very difficult to read a newspaper while seated in that manner.

I always thought that the loo was a sanctuary for relaxation, not stress! "

From http://www.wog.com.au/article_main.asp?ArticleId=225

 

[calisoldier83]

I've been to Iraq and yes they use water to wash their butts. I've always had access to some kind of paper. This brings up a story. We were on a mission to pick up a sniper crew doing an overwatch. We were waiting at the main gate of our base and I went to the nearest portapotty to take a wiz. I open the door and some iraqi is squating over the toilet seat pouring water down his butt. He didn't lock the door so I slammed it and said some vulgur american/arab words. I was pissed it was really hot thats the last thing I wanted to see. I didn't shake any of their hands after that. also those porta potties had water drop stains all over them so they were squirting it all over the place. did I mention I LOVE AMERICA? thank god!

 

[Deadtrees]

jbaggins, I don't know how you came up with such a BS for what reason.
I've done researches from various sources. I'm too tired to give out all the details but let me tell you something. What you've said is nothing but a BS. You don't know anything about India's toilet system and usage of TP. Do your self some research first before you make a fool out of yourself.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
jbaggins, I don't know how you came up with such a BS for what reason.
I've done researches from various sources. I'm too tired to give out all the details but let me tell you something. What you've said is nothing but a BS. You don't know anything about India's toilet system and usage of TP. Do your self some research first before you make a fool out of yourself.

I don't know the guy at all, but his claim of visiting over 300 restaurants in a 1 month stay seemed.... excessive.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

i'm from india and ive spent a majority of my life there, and its a huge country and you cant generalize what goes on there, some people use tp and some dont. and wahtever, its not even that big of a deal...you touch things much more deadly and infectious than feces on a daily basis probably. anyway, i'm going back next christmas break. i cant wait...i was there last summer for 6 weeks.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i'm from india and ive spent a majority of my life there, and its a huge country and you cant generalize what goes on there, some people use tp and some dont. and wahtever, its not even that big of a deal...you touch things much more deadly and infectious than feces on a daily basis probably. anyway, i'm going back next christmas break. i cant wait...i was there last summer for 6 weeks.

You mean.........penis?

 

[gflores]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i'm from india and ive spent a majority of my life there, and its a huge country and you cant generalize what goes on there, some people use tp and some dont. and wahtever, its not even that big of a deal...you touch things much more deadly and infectious than feces on a daily basis probably. anyway, i'm going back next christmas break. i cant wait...i was there last summer for 6 weeks.

You mean.........penis?

HAWT!