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Lifer
- Jul 21, 2005
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if you come from a family of teachers, you should already know the answer.
Exactly what I was thinking, this thread has no reason to exist.
if you come from a family of teachers, you should already know the answer.
this isn't about Chicago teacher contracts, though (and is neither politics nor news)MODS!
please combine this with the P&N thread already in progress.
This is probably why. Holy crap talk about a shitty salary. And only a 1.17% a year raise over 25 years. Less than inflation. start at 39115 then 25 years later only 50560
District School Year Years Exp. 2 Years College 3 Years College Bachelor's Master's Master's +30 Specialist in Ed. Ph.D or Ed.D
I think one aspect that isn't usually talked about is downtime during the day for teachers versus other professions.
There is little to no sitting down, while in the classroom you are always "on"
There are no extended lunches.
You definitely can't ever come in late.
Most days you have a prep period, but you're probably using this for work and not to check fantasy baseball.
How many other jobs are there where you almost constantly need to be alert/working for the entire day?
I think one aspect that isn't usually talked about is downtime during the day for teachers versus other professions.
There is little to no sitting down, while in the classroom you are always "on"
There are no extended lunches.
You definitely can't ever come in late.
Most days you have a prep period, but you're probably using this for work and not to check fantasy baseball.
How many other jobs are there where you almost constantly need to be alert/working for the entire day?
Holy shit - you can teach in your state without a Bachelor's degree? A Master's is required in NY.
You're not considering the amount of stress it is to handle so many kids in a single day...
If you have worked in IT, perhaps doing some kind of helpdesk or phone support, look at how many anxious people you've had to talk to in a day. Let's say you average 1 person every 10 minutes. That is 6 an hour. In a 8 hour day, that is 48 people. Look at how miserable the average IT customer service person is.
If you've ever had kids, more than 1, look at how crazy they can be through various stages of growing up. Look at how different each of your kid's personalities, and the mental exhaustion of trying to keep up with it (well unless you have one of those families that was mostly raised by daycare, then its hard to relate).
If you've been to a university in a challenging degree, look at how much work you had to do outside of class. Even if lots of the homework and projects were simple, the actual challenge was the time management of it all. Its a lot to keep track of.
Now...
Take all 3 of those, and multiply them all by 3, and have them happen all at the same time.
I do NOT envy teachers.
Bolded the important parts. Special ed teachers get extra money. In many districts, band and choir teachers also get extra money because of the class size. Chicago pays more because CoL is higher.
As for the cars, well, I know a few people that would rather spend money on an expensive lease or expensiver car payment than other things. When I was a kid in rural MI, it was always the Corvettes and Camaros in the trailer parks. Most people make enough money that they can make some choices, cut here or there, and get one or two extravagant things.
There's a movie about it called $30k Millionaires.
The jeep? Well, everybody needs a hobby. Fishing is more expensive. Hell. Smoking may be more expensive now.
He's single, I'm betting?
It's also possible that your "IT" job sucks.
OK, that's pretty atrocious.
This is probably why. Holy crap talk about a shitty salary. And only a 1.17% a year raise over 25 years. Less than inflation. start at 39115 then 25 years later only 50560
Holy shit - you can teach in your state without a Bachelor's degree? A Master's is required in NY.
Requirements are pretty lax for the areas without good teachers, specifically science and math.
I think you need a BS in a science/engineering field to teach any science course.
I think the requirement to teach math is that you need to have taken one level higher in college than what you are teaching. So if you took calculus 2 in college, then you are qualified to teach calculus 1 at the high school level.
Nope. Fuck them. I work in IT. I take my work with me in my pocket 24x7x365. I don't want to hear shit from them.
Nope. Fuck them. I work in IT. I take my work with me in my pocket 24x7x365. I don't want to hear shit from them.
In Ontario, yes, most definitely. They're the most pampered bunch of whiners around. $70 grand plus a year and a 30 hour work week, plus full benefits, three months vacation, and a $40k/year pension with said benefits are practically slavery you know.
But I digress. I don't know how things are in the States. Probably not as bad as they're made out to be though. I don't have a lot of respect for the teaching "profession". However, that's a long and personal story. Needless to say, I didn't get to where I am today because of them.