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JBDan

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Really depends on your case and it's airflow/setup. Slot blowers can work great and take warm air away from adjacent area (vid card), but my experience with them is this: with good case air flow management they just add more raquet/noise IMO. What are you looking to do with it? List your case and some guts so we can give our opinion
 

Build it Myself

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I've got a SopranoRS by thermaltake with a 120mm fan in the rear and 2 vents on the side. I'll be building on Friday and will likely put another 120mm fan in the front. I've got a coolermaster hyper-tx2 that I got from clubit free AR but I will probably move up to a Zalman after seeing how happy everyone is with their performance, though I don't know which model as of yet.

The following pretty much describes my layout:
SopranoRS case
AbitIP35-Pro
Nvidia 8800GT
2180 OC'ed to around 3Ghz
4gigs Ram
Antec Earthwatts 430
WD Caviar 250GB
2 dvd drives
1 floppy/memory card reader combo
Asus 22" monitor

like I mentioned, only 1 fan now 120mm in the rear, but I'll probably put at least the front 120 in there as well, then possibly more on the sides, i'm not sure.

Thanks for the help
 

JBDan

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First off test how your temps are with just a dual fan setup (120mm intake and 120mm exhaust) when you complete your build. If it were me I would install a front 120mm (~1200 rpm'r as intake). That's it. With your psu and the rear 120mm exhausting, your single 120mm intake, and the vents on the side of the Soprano you should have more than enough airflow to keep your system cool. I have heard the 8800GT's run hot and the only downside imo to it's HSF is that it does not exhaust the heat out of the case like the 8800gts/gtx, but you have those huge a_s vents! on the side . Adding a slot blower imo would be negligible. Nice build have fun with that!
 

Build it Myself

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Thanks a lot, I appreciate the input, I'll just let it go and see how things work out.

My last question regarding this would be what is the best temperature monitoring software? Or testing software for that matter? I plan on using CPU-Z and memtest if I can figure out a guide to it but what else should I run to monitor my computer.
 

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Originally posted by: Build it Myself
Thanks a lot, I appreciate the input, I'll just let it go and see how things work out.

My last question regarding this would be what is the best temperature monitoring software? Or testing software for that matter? I plan on using CPU-Z and memtest if I can figure out a guide to it but what else should I run to monitor my computer.

Dang it... You already found out the answer is no...

Anyway, as far as the monitor software goes, I've tried them all.

The only ones I keep around are Everest and PC Wizard (same ppl that make CPU-Z)...
 

JBDan

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I like Everest. Have not used PC Wizard in years. But I use SpeedFan. They all grab the temps from the same sensors so you will find similiar, if not the same temps through several different monitoring prog's.

I like CoreTemp for the CPU as this sensor is located within each individual processing core. Think they call it DTS (digital thermal sensor) or the likes of that. SpeedFan 4.33 can detect these sensors, but on the newer Core2Duo's you must offset the temp +15C. I'm not sure with your CPU. I would use the latest beta 0.95.4 and adjust SpeedFan's readings accordingly if you decide to use it.

Your IP35Pro will have it's own propietary temp monitoring software so you can use that as well. As for CPU-Z, it's website explains the layout well. And memtest...there is a boat-load of info on the web how to test your RAM with it. Always know you can ask Q's here and Njoy! that upgrade!
 

jonmcc33

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Originally posted by: JBDan
Really depends on your case and it's airflow/setup. Slot blowers can work great and take warm air away from adjacent area (vid card), but my experience with them is this: with good case air flow management they just add more raquet/noise IMO. What are you looking to do with it? List your case and some guts so we can give our opinion

I've never seen a single slot blower make a single degree Celsius change in temperature.
 

JBDan

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Originally posted by: jonmcc33
Originally posted by: JBDan
Really depends on your case and it's airflow/setup. Slot blowers can work great and take warm air away from adjacent area (vid card), but my experience with them is this: with good case air flow management they just add more raquet/noise IMO. What are you looking to do with it? List your case and some guts so we can give our opinion

I've never seen a single slot blower make a single degree Celsius change in temperature.

I have on my video card, but the minor change was far from worth it with the added noise. But then again, I am one of them thar silence nutz
 

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The 8800GTS/GTX are great cards, but they will be the biggest heat generators in your computer.
It is good that the stock cooler expels most of the heat out back through the extra slot. The stock coolers are quiet too.
OEM replacement coolers are good at extracting heat from the GPU chips, but without rear exhausts they don't help the whole system because the recirculated hot air puts added load on the cpu and case coolers.
The 8800 has four slits which let hot air back into the system which increases the case heat, and ultimately puts extra load on the cpu cooler.
I have found it very effective to add a slot cooler like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16811999704
Mount it just below the 8800. It has a speed knob so you can adjust the cooling vs. noise equation.
This will help both vga and cpu temperatures.
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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don't do it. You'll end up fighting with your card's stock cooler, as this things like this most likely blow out. and even if it blows in, it is more effective to get better fans, Plus these things have a tendency to make a lot of noise- plus it's a rosewill- eww
 

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In my opinion I would pass on the slot cooler and instead go with an Antec SpotCool, and tilt the fan to it is blow directly on the graphics card which would probably have a much greater result than using a slot cooler. In fact I think some one here on AT has one in that orientation.
 

jonmcc33

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Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
In my opinion I would pass on the slot cooler and instead go with an Antec SpotCool, and tilt the fan to it is blow directly on the graphics card which would probably have a much greater result than using a slot cooler. In fact I think some one here on AT has one in that orientation.

Much better idea IMO.
 

geofelt

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You are actually helping the 8800gts/gtx stock cooler. The hot air exiting the four slots would normally be recirculated in the case. With the slot cooler just under those slits, the hot air goes into the slot cooler's intake, and right out the back. Believe me, it works. For $7.99 it does not cost much to try it.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: JBDan
First off test how your temps are with just a dual fan setup (120mm intake and 120mm exhaust) when you complete your build. If it were me I would install a front 120mm (~1200 rpm'r as intake). That's it. With your psu and the rear 120mm exhausting, your single 120mm intake, and the vents on the side of the Soprano you should have more than enough airflow to keep your system cool. I have heard the 8800GT's run hot and the only downside imo to it's HSF is that it does not exhaust the heat out of the case like the 8800gts/gtx, but you have those huge a_s vents! on the side . Adding a slot blower imo would be negligible. Nice build have fun with that!

My friend JB is absolutely correct!
Adding a slot blower would be ngligible!
If you were worried that much about your vid card temps I would get an aftermarket video card cooler that you put directly on the card in place of the cooler it was shipped with!!

Peace!!
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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Originally posted by: geofelt
You are actually helping the 8800gts/gtx stock cooler. The hot air exiting the four slots would normally be recirculated in the case. With the slot cooler just under those slits, the hot air goes into the slot cooler's intake, and right out the back. Believe me, it works. For $7.99 it does not cost much to try it.

don't only single-slot cards recirculate? That's the gripe with the 8800gt- sure you can fit more in, but you can't overclock them wildly when they're all fighting for air, now can you?
 

geofelt

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Much of the hot air from double slot coolers is in fact ejected through the back slots. The 8800gtx/gts cards have four slits in the cooler, and you only have to hold your fingers underneath them to feel how much hot air comes out through them. To the extent that a slot cooler can capture this hot air before it has a chance to recirculate, you are doing some good. The negative on a two slot cooler is just that; it covers another board slot that you might want to use. And, the slot cooler will occupy yet another one.

You are correct, all single slot coolers do recirculate. In the case of lower powered cards that do not generate a lot of heat, this is ok. The new 8800GT uses a smaller chip technology which is cooler, and apparently does not generate enough heat to require better cooling. I'l wait to see on that one. I think the more powerful new generation cards will still come in a double slot form.
 
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Slot cooler? Noisy. I'll chime in and agree that the two 120mm, plus the PSU ought to do it. If they don't, why not make use of the side vent - mount a 120mm there - a slow turner, say in the 800-100 rpm neighborhood. You won't hear it, but you sure will feel it pulling the heat. My case is set up this way, and a 120mm really does work on the side. Just keep the rpms in check by using a low rpm fan if you'll run at 12v, or throw a Zalman fanmate on it, and dial in your own rpm.

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