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Icopoli

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I'm 19, I've grown up on Windows, it hasn't been until recently that I've owned my own computer and am allowed to do whatever I wish to it. Linux was something my father didn't want on his systems.

Note: I used DOS until I was 10, so linux won't be completely foreign to me.
 

compusaguy

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Just try to get a newbie to install drivers for an ethernet card and possibly upgrade the kernel in Linux. They'll be begging to use windows again. There's nothing wrong with windows. It's simply an OS sold for profit. If you can come up with something better that is relatively easy, go ahead and put it out.
 

MisterChief

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Originally posted by: compusaguy
Just try to get a newbie to install drivers for an ethernet card and possibly upgrade the kernel in Linux. They'll be begging to use windows again.

Amen!:thumbsup:

 

Hyperblaze

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Originally posted by: compusaguy
Just try to get a newbie to install drivers for an ethernet card and possibly upgrade the kernel in Linux. They'll be begging to use windows again. There's nothing wrong with windows. It's simply an OS sold for profit. If you can come up with something better that is relatively easy, go ahead and put it out.

It's not my fault if you have such low standards in software.

Upgrading the kernel is actually not that difficult. Have you ever tried upgrading it using the Mandrake package updater? I personally found it boring because there was nothing to do.

Just point and click. (yeah I love to tinker)

Before you make any statements like you do above, try doing some research first. You are posting without a researched point of view.
 

BujinZero

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The ease/difficulty thing really varies with your expertise and computer education. Windows is common for a long list of reasons, one of which being that it's very simple for people to do more while knowing less. For example, stuff is easy to install and uninstall, but the price you pay for that is a computer generally used in administrator mode and hence, the door is wide open for malware of all sorts (and also open for people to peddle anti-everything software). As my expertise grew I transitioned from DOS/Windows to Linux (Slackware). I felt good about DOS for a while, then liked Windows and got complacent with it. But it didn't take me long to go from complacent to antsy, and I started experimenting with alternative OS's. Even after a few years experience, I still feel I've only hit the tip of the iceberg with Linux, while at the same time it's never really been a problematic operating system for me or my family.

The main reason people whine about Linux's perceived difficulty is not because it's really any tougher than Windows, it's because most users come from a Windows world. I'll call it 'differenticulty'. Windows and Linux just aren't the same. They have their ups and downs, and I tend to find the ups of Linux more appealing. Some distros, like MEPIS, can install the proper graphics drivers before the user ever runs the OS off the hard disc. I like the unintrusive way most distros update packages: they don't unless you say so. In fact, with Slackware and Debian too I'm sure, NOTHING happens unless you goddamn say so. In flies the differenticulty. Windows does a hell of a lot of autoconfiguration. Many Linux distros can, too, but many don't. Personally, I like computers to do what I want, not think or act for me.

Obviously, people don't like change, and experienced Windows users like those on this board think they'll have a similar level of understanding with Linux out of the box. They install Linux once, 'fail' to meet their overly ambitious expectations, come back on AT and bitch. Honestly, to those who've done this, what were you expecting? You were probably totally new to the *nix world, as everyone once was, and nobody ever gets any OS right off the bat. If you give it a chance, give it a proper one or just shut up. Take some time. Be ready to learn, and be ready to ask our very helpful *nix people like n0cmonkey, drag, and bersl2 for help. If you're not ready, go with what you know, enjoy what you're doing, and quit posting flamebait. You're the users Linux doesn't really serve, anyway.
 

sindjelic

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hello friends
I've tried Knopix live distribution on my PC,it seems to be ok.In a few days a will definitly install SuSe on my desktop.
Somebody said that I should find a job,so I can bay what I want.

I have been working two jobs since my 18,but answer me sincerely could I buy anything with 200 euros monthly.

Greeting from Serbia.
 

hopejr

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lol, I think this whole thread is funny. I have used DOS, Windows, Macintosh System Software, Linux, Mac OS X in that order, and I like Mac OS X, Windows, Linux, DOS, Macintosh System Software in that order (from best to worst, but the first three are very close). If you want my opinion, Mac OS X is the easiest (everything in OS X is easier, including updating the kernel - even blind people can install Tiger - but that's not the point here), then Windows and Linux (not counting the other too which are crap anyway). The power of linux and the control one has over it is a big plus, but that ability to control can be overwhelming for many users. I used Linux for a while, had it set up nicely, and was quite happy with it, until for some reason it crapped up and I couldn't even log in as root. I couldn't be bothered spending ages configuring it again (installation isn't an issue, as people have already said, it's really simple - it was after-installation configuration - not hard, just time consuming). Windows is easy to configure, after installation, but then again some things are difficult. If it was between Windows and Linux, I would choose Windows just because it doesn't take as long to configure, but I would choose Linux because once I've got it configured, I don't need to stuff around trying to keep it working. That's why I use OS X

This post doesn't have much relevance to this thread, hey. This will: just use a good distro of linux (as you are going to). My 2c.
 

Zucarita9000

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I don't understan why some people hate Windows. If you install the right software the right way and periodically clean your PC and do some maintenance once in a while, there's no reason why Windows will crash.

I've built two machines last year (my brother's on May and mine on December). Neither has crashed once, not a single BSOD or freeze. They just work. They're running XP SP2.

My previous system had Windows 2000 and also never crashed.
 

imported_kseskisator

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I hate Windows and Windows hates me. And not necessarily in Soviet Russia

That's why I use Debian Linux. At home, at work, everywhere. But of course, this is me, you may love Windows and hate Linux. To each his own
 

CalvinHobbs

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ha...i don't believe there is anything more easier than installing win2k or xp...getting the partittions right in linux is quite a headache
 

hopejr

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After my last post, I remembered that linux being easy to install is dependent on the distro. Debian is a pain because you have to choose all the kernel modules, and gentoo is difficult coz to get the latest stuff you need to compile everything (but this is what some people want, and it's great for learning how linux works, so it's not that bad).
 

Hyperblaze

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Originally posted by: calvinHobbs
ha...i don't believe there is anything more easier than installing win2k or xp...getting the partittions right in linux is quite a headache

What distro did you try installing?
 

compusaguy

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Originally posted by: sindjelic
I simply hate Billy's product,it sucks.
I would like to have Apple with OS X but I live in Serbia so there is not such a thing.
Which Operating system is running on your machines?
Are you satisfied with Window$?

You little Apple fanny boy. How dare you come here and parade a 2-bit-no-good-low-down-all-flash-and-no-go-limited-software-and-expensive-as-he
l chump OS in the face of Windows. If Windows is so bad and Apple so good, there'd be far less people using it. You make me sick!!!
 

Hyperblaze

Lifer
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Originally posted by: compusaguy
Originally posted by: sindjelic
I simply hate Billy's product,it sucks.
I would like to have Apple with OS X but I live in Serbia so there is not such a thing.
Which Operating system is running on your machines?
Are you satisfied with Window$?

You little Apple fanny boy. How dare you come here and parade a 2-bit-no-good-low-down-all-flash-and-no-go-limited-software-and-expensive-as-he
l chump OS in the face of Windows. If Windows is so bad and Apple so good, there'd be far less people using it. You make me sick!!!

Thanks for the laugh dude. You really made me laugh. I mean seriously. I think you win the cake for the most close-minded consumer user I have encounter so far and the way you think is actually quite humorous.

If it was a joke, joke was good!

 

PhoenixPyre

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Yes, I hate Windows. I'm not opposed to using it and I don't think it should be eliminated, but I always have a much easier time with OS X, and a more enjoyable experience.
 

sindjelic

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Is it true that Billy made Windows like bad copy of Apple's interface?
I have never work with Apple seriously so I don't now.
 
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