do u use pink rings around screws on m/b?

[ne3A1wAys5]

ans from some1:

Actually, those washers should never be used.

The motherboard comes with those metal screw points for a reason - to drain static electricity and to provide additional grounding points for the motherboard. At least that's what I understand.

That's why motherboard manufacturers plated the area around the screw points. To use the washers would be not only pointless, it will actually harm the motherboard in the long run.

Check your motherboard manual. There is no mention of washers in the installation procedure. In fact, they tell you to just screw in the motherboard. :music:

 

[MDE]

Yes oh great one! <bows>

 

[MichaelD]

/smacks you upside the head

You posted this drivel to deliberately confuse newbs that don't know any better. Shame on you. :disgust:

The motherboard mounting screws do NOT ground the mobo to the case. Grounding the mobo results in it SHORTING OUT, nitwit.

In fact, that's why STANDOFFS are used and why they are made of non-conductive brass. If grounding the mobo was a good thing, we would just duct tape it to the inside of the case and be done with it.

Those metal "rings" around the mounting holes prevent the screws from digging into the layers of PCB and shorting anything out that way.

You're either a Troll (my thinking) or seriously misinformed. Either way, your post is 100% incorrect.

 

[aka1nas]

I usually only use them on friend's computer's. When it's my hardware I'm usually to lazy.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
/smacks you upside the head

You posted this drivel to deliberately confuse newbs that don't know any better. Shame on you. :disgust:

The motherboard mounting screws do NOT ground the mobo to the case. Grounding the mobo results in it SHORTING OUT, nitwit.

In fact, that's why STANDOFFS are used and why they are made of non-conductive brass. If grounding the mobo was a good thing, we would just duct tape it to the inside of the case and be done with it.

Those metal "rings" around the mounting holes prevent the screws from digging into the layers of PCB and shorting anything out that way.

You're either a Troll (my thinking) or seriously misinformed. Either way, your post is 100% incorrect.

Cliff's Notes

- M4H

 

[daveymark]

so are we supposed to use those red rings or not? and do they go on top of or underneath the motherboard?

 

[ray24k]

"non-conductive brass"?

The standoffs on my motherboard are definitely conductive.

 

[bacillus]

Originally posted by: daveymark
so are we supposed to use those red rings or not? and do they go on top of or underneath the motherboard?

use the washers & place them between screwhead & m/board!

 

[ROJAS]

I never use the washers. I have built over 50 pcs in the last few years and no problems no using them.

ROJAS

 

[FreshPrince]

Those washers saved my butt when my case manufacturer screwed up and made the slot too tall. By using 2 washers for every screw, I was able to raise my mobo a bit to cover the difference. Thx mobo washers!

 

[Jeff7]

For the record, this is the best piece of writing thus far from this user; most other threads were not the best English. This is much better writing.

Edit: Ah, because it's someone else's. See primula's post below. :Q

 

[redhatlinux]

Man, just lighten up. Who made YOU GOD Michael. He said grounded NOT shorted, there is a difference. He was referring to electrically connecting Signal Ground to Frame or Chassis ground !!. I'm not sure that the mounting hole rings are even connected to signal ground but this issue has been discussed alot.

 

[Snooper]

Has anyone even THOUGHT about finding out? I am VERY sure the mounting screws ARE grounded. They need to be to make the case part of the ground plane the MB needs to keep noise and cross talk down (aka: so the damn thing doesn't crash all the time!). Simple test for anyone that has a MB out: Ohm out between the screw pads and the ground pins on the ATX connector. Or just ohm out between each screw pad. If they are at the same potential, then they almost have to be connected to the ground plane on the MB.

Oh Micheal, brass is make of copper. Copper is used in most wire in the world. Therefore, brass is conductive...

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: MichaelD
/smacks you upside the head

You posted this drivel to deliberately confuse newbs that don't know any better. Shame on you. :disgust:

The motherboard mounting screws do NOT ground the mobo to the case. Grounding the mobo results in it SHORTING OUT, nitwit.

In fact, that's why STANDOFFS are used and why they are made of non-conductive brass. If grounding the mobo was a good thing, we would just duct tape it to the inside of the case and be done with it.

Those metal "rings" around the mounting holes prevent the screws from digging into the layers of PCB and shorting anything out that way.

You're either a Troll (my thinking) or seriously misinformed. Either way, your post is 100% incorrect.

Cliff's Notes

- M4H

LOL, yet more proof this forum is soon going to be OT!

 

[Paulson]

I always use em... I don't know why, but I just like putting them on... especially if they came with the case/mobo.. I mean what the hell am I going to do with a million of those little washers lying around?

 

[Slammy1]

I was surprised when my newest MoBo (P4P800-D) did not come with them, but I used the ones from my previous MoBo. I don't think they're necessary as they once were, but they're an added precaution against accidental grounding. I'm not an expert on the subject, just my $0.02.

 

[Mem]

I never use washers, I just make sure the standoffs match up with the motherboard mount holes,I`ve never had a problem yet .

Btw all the cases/motherboards I`ve built have never come or meantion those washers so I`m not about to start using them now .

 

[HalfCrazy]

In all the systems that I had made. I never ever used those little washers in any of the computer systems.

 

[WarCon]

I like the brass is not conductive part (I am assuming he is joking). Only special property I know about brass is that it doesn't spark and is hard enough to be used for non-sparking tools and parts, but it is most definately conductive.

 

[BZeto]

Originally posted by: WarCon
I like the brass is not conductive part (I am assuming he is joking). Only special property I know about brass is that it doesn't spark and is hard enough to be used for non-sparking tools and parts, but it is most definately conductive.

Well they must make them out of brass for a certain reason.... What it is, I dont know. I dont use the washers either.

 

[bgeh]

he can write english!!!:Q

 

[dartworth]

Great, I took my washers out...following your advice. I turn it back on...poof-snap-crackle-boom...now my board is shorted out.

sigh...

 

[OverVolt]

Originally posted by: jfano
Great, I took my washers out...following your advice. I turn it back on...poof-snap-crackle-boom...now my board is shorted out.

sigh...

U reinstalled a perfectly stable mobo just to swap out the washers? If it ain't broke, don;t fix it

 

[primula]

Originally posted by: ne3A1wAys5
Actually, those washers should never be used.

The motherboard comes with those metal screw points for a reason - to drain static electricity and to provide additional grounding points for the motherboard. At least that's what I understand.

That's why motherboard manufacturers plated the area around the screw points. To use the washers would be not only pointless, it will actually harm the motherboard in the long run.

Check your motherboard manual. There is no mention of washers in the installation procedure. In fact, they tell you to just screw in the motherboard. :music:

it very obvious he copied from somewhere directly !!! ..
since when he can write such good english ??..
wanna know who he copied from ..
he copied from Adrian from RojakPot...

PLAGARISM !!

Read :
http://forums.rojakpot.com/viewtopic.php?t=4820

 

[WarCon]

Well I have seen them come in brass and what I assume is some kind of alloy of aluminum and even in the ultra-cheap spring metal clip in's. All of them are conductive and I have never used those washers since the first time I found a Pentium 75 board from the manufacturer not using them. I figured they knew what they was doing so I never worried about using them either. (Moral is that the brass ones were probably what was convienent to use with hard enough threads that don't strip easily. Also brass can be cast while steel can't).

Only use I could imagine for them is with a cheap case to adjust the height of the mobo so the cards socket up correctly, but haven't personally had to do that either.