Do we move through time,does time pass us by

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Am I the only one that get's depressed when people talk about time?

 

[MetalStorm]

Originally posted by: kotss
It seems everyone is caught up in the whole speed affects time thing. It really boils down
to gravity. Gravity is what ultimately defines the passage of time. As you increase your
speed your total energy state increases and this can be seen as an increase in mass-energy, since larger mass-energies are more greatly affected by gravity you hence have
the reason for time dilation due to high speeds. That is why you do not need to be
going real fast and still experience time dilation. Just sit near a blackhole. The only thing
with time dilation is you do no directly experience and change in your time sense. It only
changes for those relative to you.

What the ******? Who's ass did you find that in?

(The bit about when speed increases your mass increases and time changes relative to you is correct , the rest is ass)

 

[bchivers]

Any mass has gravitation properties, anywhere.

But doesn't there have to be movement before there is gravity?

 

[MetalStorm]

Originally posted by: bchivers

Any mass has gravitation properties, anywhere.

But doesn't there have to be movement before there is gravity?

No.

As I have said, the guy who suggested that gravity controls time was talking from his ass and is outright wrong.

 

[bchivers]

I have really enjoyed this thread,thanks to all contributors.

BEAM ME UP SCOTTY
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[Phantom1983]

Originally posted by: MetalStorm

"why can't we remember the future?"

Eh? That doesn't make sense, last time I checked "remember" was past tense, and I would have thought it was obvious why we can't remember the future!!

Fair point! What I should have said was "why don't we have definitive knowledge of the future the way we do of the past?"

 

[kotss]

Originally posted by: MetalStorm

Originally posted by: bchivers

Any mass has gravitation properties, anywhere.

But doesn't there have to be movement before there is gravity?

No.

As I have said, the guy who suggested that gravity controls time was talking from his ass and is outright wrong.

Please explain why I am talking out my behind. And please be specific.

 

[Mishkav]

yu see time be that what be in da past u know? like food, it there fo like 20 seconds then it be gone and down yo ass. u know?

 

[FreemanHL2]

hmmmmm I have no idea about this subject so if my post makes no sense, pay no attention.

If greater speed = slower time then even small changes in speed shuld affect time? Even if we're splitting hairs, surely time is going at even a minute fraction slower wen I am travelling in my car?

And theres also the good old space time paradox, if we can keep going bak in time infinately, then it must have taken an infinite amount of time to reach now, so therefore logic tells us time did indeed have a begening... If we believe time began then we wuld have to percieve time as a real 'element' rather than a 'perception.'

I suppose we culd beleive that time didnt exist before the creation of matter, because without matter there is no relative speed between particles. However the creation of matter wuld involve a reaction of some description, and if there was no time before matter then how did a reaction occur? After all reactions take time...

The only clear answer is sumhow matter can exist outside of time, and a reaction outside of our own time space must have created the first particles that triggered time as we kno it. However we wuld need matter in order to create a reaction, so matter MUST exist outside of our time space. So logic tells us that the matter outside our time space never had a 'begining' it just always existed... If it always existed, then how exactly do we mark a point in time wen the reaction that caused the creation of matter occured?

If matter always existed in a realm outside our space time, then once again we wuld b waiting infinately for matter to come into existence, because there is no 'point in time' to mark the reaction that triggered matter in our own space time, because time didnt exist b4 the creation of matter... right?

Now we can keep going around in circles and asking ourselves exactly how its possible for matter to even exist? Clearly the answer is something we will never be able to percieve, it will never be comprehended by any human being.

Maybe god does exist? *shrugs* I have no idea if any of that made sense ^

 

[herm0016]

yes to the first question.
matter (energy) or mass cannot be created or destroyed, this is the ultament law of physics. the mass has always been there, time is always there. its just what we preceve as the begining or end. if you belive in the big bang it all started when time reached 0 (negitive time does exist, just the time before 0 like the years BC.) all matter existed in a very small volume, it exploded and such... then you have the universe. or you can belive that everything was created by god, but all the stuff he used to create was already here, the bible does not talk of creating matter, only putting it in to more orderly forms. matter and time are always there, we created an abatrary set of units to measure it, these units just help us to understand, just like everything else. units just describe something, they dont constiute an actual law. like voltage, things are only at 0 volts when you are referencing something (ground) which may or may not have an actual charge on it. time is just measured relitive to what we think of as a begining.



also Mishkav: please type so you can read what you are saying. spell as correctly as you are skilled. (i am not skilled in the spelling, but i can at least read my posts) use as much proper english as you are able, you will get a lot better responces this way.

 

[mjia]

As I have said, the guy who suggested that gravity controls time was talking from his ass and is outright wrong.

Show some respect.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/exploration/timetravel/index.shtml

 

[MrDudeMan]

it hurts to read some of the replies in this thread. people throw around relativity and time dilation like they invented it and have already proved it to be true in their basements before high school. i would throw in my .02 (since ive actually studied this) but i have a feeling it wouldnt really lead anywhere. this post was pointless, and i know that.

 

[kotss]

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
it hurts to read some of the replies in this thread. people throw around relativity and time dilation like they invented it and have already proved it to be true in their basements before high school. i would throw in my .02 (since ive actually studied this) but i have a feeling it wouldnt really lead anywhere. this post was pointless, and i know that.

I am not a physicist myself, but I have read enough and remember enough from High School and College Physics to know that time dilation due to kinesis is fact. It has been proven experimentally. The time dilation due to black holes is founded upon
the same principles but is not proven as far as I know. (It could be, but I personnaly
do not know of it.)


Also I am still waiting for MetalStorm to contradict me with sonething other than I say
you do not know what you are talking about, rather than giving relevant information to
contradict.