Do you admire the Amish response or not ?

[waggy]

i admire them. while i know i couldnt do it you have to admire it.

 

[MikeMike]

i dont admire them.

there are so many problems within that community, and no i am not talking about incest.

many of them are alcoholice, drug users, etc. the community is very good in terms of helping others, but there are many other issues.

now that i realise it said "response" and not "admire the amish" i would say, yes i do admire the response, but not the amish in general.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I wouldn't do it, but I admire them for it.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
i dont admire them.

there are so many problems within that community, and no i am not talking about incest.

many of them are alcoholice, drug users, etc. the community is very good in terms of helping others, but there are many other issues.

One problem with your glass house, MIKEMIKE, is that the rest of us can see you all too well.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
i dont admire them.

there are so many problems within that community, and no i am not talking about incest.

many of them are alcoholice, drug users, etc. the community is very good in terms of helping others, but there are many other issues.

That's not what we were talking about, were we?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
i dont admire them.

there are so many problems within that community, and no i am not talking about incest.

many of them are alcoholice, drug users, etc. the community is very good in terms of helping others, but there are many other issues.

One problem with your glass house, MIKEMIKE, is that the rest of us can see you all too well.

i know, yes KNOW many amish people, i live in one of the largest amish areas in ohio, and thus, in the nation.

drive 10 minutes, and i can go find you horse drawn carriages.

when we went down to Mexico a few years ago with my dads company, one of the people who went was amish.

you guys who dont live near them dont understand the problems they have.

 

[Eos]

Aren't non family/non friend funeral attendees there to support the people mourning their lost family member? Could this be the reason the Amish people attended?

 

[Babbles]

My girlfriend is from Ohio and has been around those areas that MIKEMIKE is talking about. She has told me stories about drug running and bootlegging amongst the Amish community; almost an Amish mafia if you will.

However, with that being said, different communities are exactly that: Different.

That group in Ohio very well can have massive problems, I don't doubt that, however to take their problems and just as well assume that all Amish communities everywhere has the same problems is a mistaken fallacy. From my understanding this particular Amish community that suffered under this recent situation is quite small and does not have the same sort of reputation for problems as the one in Ohio.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
i dont admire them.

there are so many problems within that community, and no i am not talking about incest.

many of them are alcoholice, drug users, etc. the community is very good in terms of helping others, but there are many other issues.

One problem with your glass house, MIKEMIKE, is that the rest of us can see you all too well.

i know, yes KNOW many amish people, i live in one of the largest amish areas in ohio, and thus, in the nation.

drive 10 minutes, and i can go find you horse drawn carriages.

when we went down to Mexico a few years ago with my dads company, one of the people who went was amish.

you guys who dont live near them dont understand the problems they have.

I live near and around them, too, in Bucks County, Pa., sport.

Given you may not be bright enough to have understood my response above, here's a Cliff Notes For Retards Clue: "He who lives in a glass house shouldn't cast stones."

Still, even you should be bright enough to understand AM's curt, direct response to your off topic drivel:

Originally posted by: AnyMal
That's not what we were talking about, were we?

I don't think you're all that stupid so much as you clearly lack class.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
i dont admire them.

there are so many problems within that community, and no i am not talking about incest.

many of them are alcoholice, drug users, etc. the community is very good in terms of helping others, but there are many other issues.

One problem with your glass house, MIKEMIKE, is that the rest of us can see you all too well.

i know, yes KNOW many amish people, i live in one of the largest amish areas in ohio, and thus, in the nation.

drive 10 minutes, and i can go find you horse drawn carriages.

when we went down to Mexico a few years ago with my dads company, one of the people who went was amish.

you guys who dont live near them dont understand the problems they have.

I live near and around them, too, in Bucks County, Pa., sport.

Given you may not be bright enough to have understood my response above, here's a Cliff Notes For Retards Clue: "He who lives in a glass house shouldn't cast stones."

Still, even you should be bright enough to understand AM's curt, direct response to your off topic drivel:

Originally posted by: AnyMal
That's not what we were talking about, were we?

I don't think you're all that stupid so much as you clearly lack class.

had i not skiped over the keyword in the topic "response"

now that i realise it said "response" and not "admire the amish" i would say, yes i do admire the response, but not the amish in general.

Edited: 10/08/2006 at 01:13 PM by MIKEMIKE

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I totally respect and admire the Amish response to this tragedy. There is a great clarity and light in their amazingly gracious, noble reaction to a horrible, horrible event.

This week Howard Stern briefly spoke to Shirley Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church (aka the God Hates F@gs wackos). She was saying vicious, hateful things about the Amish, and claiming that the murders were God's way of slapping some sense into them. I thought, for a moment, that if she were right (which seems obviously false to me), then I hate God. The reality, I think, is that if there's a God, he loves the righteous (like the Amish), and will mete out stern punishment to the wicked, like Shirley and company.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
i dont admire them.

there are so many problems within that community, and no i am not talking about incest.

many of them are alcoholice, drug users, etc. the community is very good in terms of helping others, but there are many other issues.

One problem with your glass house, MIKEMIKE, is that the rest of us can see you all too well.

i know, yes KNOW many amish people, i live in one of the largest amish areas in ohio, and thus, in the nation.

drive 10 minutes, and i can go find you horse drawn carriages.

when we went down to Mexico a few years ago with my dads company, one of the people who went was amish.

you guys who dont live near them dont understand the problems they have.

I live near and around them, too, in Bucks County, Pa., sport.

Given you may not be bright enough to have understood my response above, here's a Cliff Notes For Retards Clue: "He who lives in a glass house shouldn't cast stones."

Still, even you should be bright enough to understand AM's curt, direct response to your off topic drivel:

Originally posted by: AnyMal
That's not what we were talking about, were we?

I don't think you're all that stupid so much as you clearly lack class.

Yet all your class won't make up for your lack of comprehension.

 

[miniMUNCH]

Originally posted by: syzygy
i do although i'm conflicted about why.

i'm not a pacifist. i do think there are legitimate reasons to resort to an armed response. society cannot function with forgiveness that is as blind as the
violence it is addressing. but i'm still amazed at any person's ability to forgive a criminal who has so wantonly injured their being, family, or community.

you ?

I admire their response.

Put it this way... if everyone held Amish beliefs regarding community and humanity then we would have a lot less war, murder, and crime in general.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
I wouldn't do it, but I admire them for it.

QFT.

 

[PrinceofWands]

I respect them greatly for their dedication and compassion. I have no desire to be a pacifist and would have torn the shooter apart, cackling with glee all the while. After that I believe I'd be able to offer support to his family, but I'd never show any respect or compassion towards him.

Just because I respect someone for their beliefs doesn't mean I care to share them.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

It's easy to forgive someone when you believe they're wrything in agony, burning in hell for all of eternity.

 

[badmouse]

Yes, I admire it. It makes for a nice, peaceful, friendly funeral.

 

[FoBoT]

they are better people than I

 

[BurnItDwn]

While I disagree with many of the fundamental beliefs that the Amish have (especially belief in a god), I do admire them greatly.
They aren't hollow like a lot of the religious fundies out there. They live their lifes the way that they wish to and they generally don't interfere with the beliefs or activities of those who choose differently from them.

They are truly great at following a "live and let live" philosophy.

That being said, I have lots of hate for many things in this world. I don't forgive easily, and I don't understand how they are able to. It is beyond my comprehension.

 

[Mallow]

Forgiveness is one thing but showing respect for the killer by attending his funeral... that almost shows disrespect for the murdered. At least that's my opinion, I realize the amish have very different values than myself and they truely don't mean to show any disrespect to the people who died.

 

[Biggerhammer]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I totally respect and admire the Amish response to this tragedy. There is a great clarity and light in their amazingly gracious, noble reaction to a horrible, horrible event.

This week Howard Stern briefly spoke to Shirley Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church (aka the God Hates F@gs wackos). She was saying vicious, hateful things about the Amish, and claiming that the murders were God's way of slapping some sense into them. I thought, for a moment, that if she were right (which seems obviously false to me), then I hate God. The reality, I think, is that if there's a God, he loves the righteous (like the Amish), and will mete out stern punishment to the wicked, like Shirley and company.

No, he loves gits too. I have to picture Him wincing every time the Westboro idiots claim that they are following Him, though.

 

[Kasper4christ]

yes, I can admire their response in terms of showing they don't harbor hatred for the guy when he's passed away despite the things he did while living.
but, showing respect for the dead (as mallow implied) can't be what they were intending by attending the funeral.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It's easy to forgive someone when you believe they're wrything in agony, burning in hell for all of eternity.

good point

 

[MillionaireNextDoor]

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

The Amish really do practice what they preach in loving God and each other.

 

[MillionaireNextDoor]

We advance so much in technology but have yet to do likewise in morality.