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meltdown75

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Originally posted by: ViperXX
Is that all it takes to get you to believe in something for which there's no good evidence? huh.


My wife is very skepitcal, she doesn't make stuff up. If she saw something I believe her.
was she on acid tho? just askin
 

Modelworks

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Feb 22, 2007
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nope don't believe in ghost. But the tooth fairy is real ! She left me $2 so I stole my dads false teeth and placed them under the pillow thinking I could really rack up. All I got was a wooden nickel



 

jonks

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Originally posted by: ViperXX
Is that all it takes to get you to believe in something for which there's no good evidence? huh.


My wife is very skepitcal, she doesn't make stuff up. If she saw something I believe her.

Not saying she made it up. See the above link on open mindedness, it has a bit about personal anecdotes as evidence. No possibility she was mistaken, or that there's any other explanation more likely than that a ghost-child walks your halls?

What if I played a practical joke on her? Dressed up a little kid in a white suit, had him run into the bedroom, and jump out the window where I caught him and then hid. You believe a ghost is more likely that that?

And you can simultaneously believe that she thinks she saw what she says she did without you converting to a ghost believer. You don't have to abandon everything you've learned and the entirety of your life experiences and knowledge which has somehow managed to remain revenant free.

 

IceBergSLiM

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we only experience things visual in 3 dimensions so I am not able to testify as to what exists in another dimension not perceptible to my primitive nervous system. That is if that alleged entity does exist and can be considered a ghost.
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
I think the real question is

:music:
Do you believe in magic ....
...in a young girl's heart
How the music can free her, whenever it starts
And it's magic, if the music is groovy
It makes you feel happy like an old-time movie
I'll tell you about the magic, and it'll free your soul
:music:
this is my favourite post of the day so far.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
we only experience things visual in 3 dimensions so I am not able to testify as to what exists in another dimension not perceptible to my primitive nervous system. That is if that alleged entity does exist and can be considered a ghost.

We experience things in more than 3 dimensions, but that wasn't the question.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
we only experience things visual in 3 dimensions so I am not able to testify as to what exists in another dimension not perceptible to my primitive nervous system. That is if that alleged entity does exist and can be considered a ghost.

We experience things in more than 3 dimensions, but that wasn't the question.
intergalactic planetary planetary intergalactic
another dimension another dimension another dimension another dimension :music:
 

krylon

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Originally posted by: ViperXX
Is that all it takes to get you to believe in something for which there's no good evidence? huh.


My wife is very skepitcal, she doesn't make stuff up. If she saw something I believe her.

:camera: of wife
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
we only experience things visual in 3 dimensions so I am not able to testify as to what exists in another dimension not perceptible to my primitive nervous system. That is if that alleged entity does exist and can be considered a ghost.

We experience things in more than 3 dimensions, but that wasn't the question.

I suppose you can count the 4th dimension .
 

nixium

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Originally posted by: jonks
No. But the burden isn't on me to explain spooky behavior with superstitious nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI 55 in)

True, and I've applied this to a spooky situation.

So I was in this apartment, on the top floor - and I think I was the only one on that floor. At night, there were no lights in the corridor, and if you opened the door you would be confronted by inky blackness, and had to grope your way to elevator (or use a flashlight.)

I've just finished dinner, and it's about 10 PM - when I hear this soft whining, whistling noise, almost like an animal groaning in pain. The noise lasts for maybe 3-4 seconds. The first couple of times, I don't bother - I hear the train outside, and thought it was perhaps the siren. But then it occurs again and again.

I start getting spooked out. It's a one bedroom apartment, and initially, the noise appears far off... but it's getting louder and louder, almost if whatever's making it is coming nearer.

At this point, I realized how eager the landlord was to rent the apartment to me.. he even gave me a large discount. And it seems like everything was scrubbed clean (I'd just moved in.) So my mind starts wandering.

Now the sound is pretty much inside the apartment, coming from the kitchen (it seems) I get totally freaked out, and turn on every light. I think if the power had failed then, I would've gone mad. Anyway, I investigate the kitchen - when I hear the noise again, but this time from the room I'd just left.

Maybe it was years of being a geek and engineer, but just as I was going to get the hell out of that apartment, something in my mind made me wait, and time the intervals between the sounds. And guess what? the interval was very specific. It wasn't random. There was some variance, but I could pretty much predict when I would hear it again.

That did the trick. My fear fell off - I refused to believe that any supernatural entity would follow so precise a clock to manifest itself. The next thing I did was note all the locations of the sound - and it's path was predictable as well.

So I traced it back to the bathroom, and turns out it was a water heater unit that had a spigot whose position had to be altered. A quick twist, and that was the end of the mysterious whining noise.

What I could never explain is how that spigot got to the position it did. I hadn't touched it since I moved in, and hadn't heard the noise anytime before!!!! :shocked:
 

ViperXX

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Nov 2, 2001
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I'm not basing my belief in spirits off just my wife's expirences.
I've had my own. I've just never have "seen" a spirit.

I've been held down by an unseen force in the middle of the night. My ears ringing like they never have before during the expirence.


I've had what felt like a hand placed on my shoulder by someone that I could not see. When I was around 17 or 18 (I'm 36 now) In the same house (my parents old home). I feel asleep in the living room on the couch. I was woken up (must have been around 2:00am) by our dogs going crazy outside in the front yard. They were barking and growling right next to the house like there was someone or something outside. I felt a presence enter the room and something placed it's hand on my shoulder. The hand stayed on my shoulder for awhile like it wanted me to turn around. Man I was scared shi!tless, my heart was pounding. I finally had the nerve to turn around and look. There was nothing there.



 

skace

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Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: ViperXX
I've had what felt like a hand placed on my shoulder by someone that I could not see.

Were you lying down when that happened? Sleep paralysis?
 

Triumph

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Yes I believe in ghosts. By my definition, ghosts are events/occurences/noises/visions that are unexplained. So yes, ghosts do exist.

Are ghosts the sentient spirits of dead people? I highly doubt it.
 

ViperXX

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Were you lying down when that happened? Sleep paralysis?

I was wide awake, the dogs woke me with the barking and growling. I was laying there listening to them.
 

Jack Flash

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Things like déjà vu, that we only see a mall sliver of electromagnetic radiation, that you can 'feel' when someone is looking at you or is near you...

These things leave me mentally open to the possibility, though I've never 'seen' a ghost myself.
 
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