Well, in fairness, a cursory reading of your post did seem to suggest population control and not immigration becasue you did say "ever increasing population". As far as I've heard, the primary means of conquest is to keep having babies.
When i said "place checks on their population, i meant that immigration from Muslim countries should be restricted or even banned altogether. Unsurprisingly, you twisted this into an appeal for genocide.
Strawman arguments. The left's age old weapon.
First of all I agree that the caste system is a serious problem in Indian society. No arguments here.
As far as Hindu terrorism, that is nothing but a reaction to Islamic terrorism. Muslim terrorists attack first, then Hindus respond, it is called Hindu terrorism. I have talked about this in the past. All those links you posted above, none of them were unprovoked attacks. Not justifying the acts of terrorism, but when you compare those incidents to the acts of Islamic terrorism, it is a very tiny number.
And you believe all "Islamic terrorists" any terrorist group that consists of Muslims, is done purely because God told them to?
Maybe not all, but the ones that do have numbers large for me to be wary of them.And all Muslims follow this?
Do you mind elaborating on this? I am not very familiar with either Islam or Christianity.Most Muslims sects don't even follow the Qur'an like most Christians don't follow the Bible
Of course. I am surprised this is even a question.
Are you one of those people who believe that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam?
Maybe not all, but the ones that do have numbers large for me to be wary of them.
Most Muslims sects don't even follow the Qur'an like most Christians don't follow the Bible[/QUOTE
Do you mind elaborating on this? I am not very familiar with either Islam or Christianity.
Well, in fairness, a cursory reading of your post did seem to suggest population control and not immigration becasue you did say "ever increasing population". As far as I've heard, the primary means of conquest is to keep having babies.
Clearly the media is winning and brain washing us to think Muslims are horrible people. When in reality, it is an extremely small portion of muslims who take things to the extreme.
Uncontrolled immigration also causes "ever increasing population" doesn't it?
I'm not advocating genocide, I'd never think of such a horrible thing. However, people who move to a different country and then refuse to follow its laws, create problems for law and order(like rioting) and demand that the laws should be changed to suit their whims and fancies must not allowed in.
They can cause a serious threat to the host country once their numbers increase to a sizable majority.
We're on the same page. I voted no and it shames me to see how it turned out.
When it comes to the media, they are carrying the message Islam = Terrorism. Islam = September 11th. The faces of fellow Americans don't get shown. The symbolism communicated is focused on violence.
Polls done in foreign nations confuse nationalism with religion. So folks on the other side of the planet who don't want us meddling in their affairs get counted as "supporting Terrorism", which is counted as Islam in general.
The peaceful majority have no voice. This is dangerous to both us and them.
Oh, don't get me wrong...I agree with you and I'm assuredly not siding with Whiskey -- I'm just showing how your post can be misinterpreted.
Why then are these groups always born out of war torn countries, and did not exist beforehand?
Only the most fundamental groups follow the Qur'an to the letter, the same way Christian groups pick and chose which parts of the Bible they want to follow.
You don't see all Christian sects condemning gays only certain ones do
If you are not familiar you should become as familiar as you can before jumping to conclusions like this thread, I had to learn about Islam from scratch and learn new stuff everyday
Do you consider India a "war-torn" country? Why does this outfit exist here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Mujahideen
Here is a simple thing. I will consider only those forces that pose a threat to my life. When radical Christians pose a threat to my life or my nation, i will discuss them. However right now that isn't the case.
What the quran says is irrelevant. The Quran is a book. How its followers interpret it is very much relevant as it has an impact on me. It doesn't matter if the Quran advocates love and respect for all. If Muslims are somehow interpreting that as an order from Allah to kill and plunder, it is a threat and i will speak out against it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/2h8kia/pics_of_peta_activists_being_beaten_up_in_bhopal/
Of course. I am surprised this is even a question.
Are you one of those people who believe that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam?
Maybe not all, but the ones that do have numbers large for me to be wary of them.
Do you mind elaborating on this? I am not very familiar with either Islam or Christianity.
In Whiskey's defense, I took your statements much the same way. Glad to hear that is not what you were saying.When i said "place checks on their population, i meant that immigration from Muslim countries should be restricted or even banned altogether. Unsurprisingly, you twisted this into an appeal for genocide.
Strawman arguments. The left's age old weapon.
And yes, i have returned to this thread multiple times. Perhaps if you wiped off the froth from your face you'll be able to see better. I read your first post in this thread. I wasn't going to respond to it, since it wasn't anything other than the ravings of a lunatic. I won't respond to any further arguments from you, just clearing up the whole 'genocide' accusation.
Oh and stop copy pasting the same shit arguments in every thread. It makes you come across as a retard.
Doesn't have to be ALL Muslims or even MOST Muslims for the statement to be true. Look at it this way - assume you're a Cathar in spring of 1209. The vast majority of Catholic Christians bear you no ill will and indeed, would be hard pressed to identify the differences between your dogma and theirs if asked. Do Catholic Christians then present no danger to your civilization? Obviously they do, for in a couple months Catholic Christians will begin exterminating you and your culture - even though most Catholic Christians remain good, peaceful people who bear you no ill will.Wow 99 v 59 thinking Islam and it's followers are dangerous? Yikes didn't think AT rolled that way.
Clearly the media is winning and brain washing us to think Muslims are horrible people. When in reality, it is an extremely small portion of muslims who take things to the extreme. Think about it for a second. There is what, maybe... I'll say 100k (high estimate I think) people in the world aligned with ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other Islamd based terror groups. There are hundreds of millions of Muslims in the world, yet only maybe 100k are basing their violence in Islam and use it as the crux to justify the behaviors.
If this poll was 600 years ago, we'd we asking the same thing, but about Christians. The point is, any religion or ideology taken to it's extreme, is a bad thing. It's just that right now the media and world is focusing on Islam.
In Whiskey's defense, I took your statements much the same way. Glad to hear that is not what you were saying.
Doesn't have to be ALL Muslims or even MOST Muslims for the statement to be true. Look at it this way - assume you're a Cathar in spring of 1209. The vast majority of Catholic Christians bear you no ill will and indeed, would be hard pressed to identify the differences between your dogma and theirs if asked. Do Catholic Christians then present no danger to your civilization? Obviously they do, for in a couple months Catholic Christians will begin exterminating you and your culture - even though most Catholic Christians remain good, peaceful people who bear you no ill will.
Violent actions taken in the name of a religion are almost always by a minority within that religion.
I just read another poster saying that there has been like 60,000 uses of guns to defend against Americans each year
This forum is full of horrible cop stories, prison guards etc
There's like what, at least a million violent Americans out there
It's so weird to see so many Americans worrying about some extremists in the ME taking over, when there is so much violence is in America by Americans
Good point.I just read another poster saying that there has been like 60,000 uses of guns to defend against Americans each year
This forum is full of horrible cop stories, prison guards etc
There's like what, at least a million violent Americans out there
It's so weird to see so many Americans worrying about some extremists in the ME taking over, when there is so much violence is in America by Americans
I just read another poster saying that there has been like 60,000 uses of guns to defend against Americans each year
This forum is full of horrible cop stories, prison guards etc
There's like what, at least a million violent Americans out there
It's so weird to see so many Americans worrying about some extremists in the ME taking over, when there is so much violence is in America by Americans
You are outright calling for genocide:
Quote:
"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
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(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
All too commonly expected and experienced to see another member of the P&N incite generalised hatred against a targeted group and call for their genocide. Making the effort to turn this site into Stormfront.<--more unfounfded accusations of genocide.....
We can apply that definition of Genocide to every war that has ever happened on the face of the earth.....
The Japanese attacking the United States....
The United states attacking Japan.....
The vietmanese war........
The Korean war.....
The Nazi`s attacking Poland.....
The list goes on and on.....
Which allows people like Whiskey16 to accuse and slander anybody that Whiskey16 does not agree with by saying the are endorsing genocide.......
yet Whiskey16 will get all huffy and belligerent and spew forth words that would make a sailor blush when others apply that very same definition to you.....
You are NOT the Teflon man.....
Not weird but unbearable: seeing the violence done by Americans to Americans would force it's citizen's to examine the issue introspectively....and the reflection ain't pretty.
Wow 99 v 59 thinking Islam and it's followers are dangerous? Yikes didn't think AT rolled that way.
Clearly the media is winning and brain washing us to think Muslims are horrible people. When in reality, it is an extremely small portion of muslims who take things to the extreme. Think about it for a second. There is what, maybe... I'll say 100k (high estimate I think) people in the world aligned with ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other Islamd based terror groups. There are hundreds of millions of Muslims in the world, yet only maybe 100k are basing their violence in Islam and use it as the crux to justify the behaviors.
If this poll was 600 years ago, we'd we asking the same thing, but about Christians. The point is, any religion or ideology taken to it's extreme, is a bad thing. It's just that right now the media and world is focusing on Islam.
First beheading in America by follower of Islam, also trying to convert others.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/26/us/oklahoma-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t2