Do you believe that Islam and its followers are a threat to the world?

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SlickSnake

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First beheading in America by follower of Islam, also trying to convert others.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/26/us/oklahoma-beheading/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

He figured if he was going to kill someone, he might as well make a crazy religious statement out of it in the process. But wait, isn't Islam supposedly a religion of PEACE?

This helps to prove that mentally ill people will flock to religion as an excuse for their immoral behaviour. This is all part of the forgiveness for sin mentality that religions like to promote, too.

Does anyone in their right mind (religious or not) seriously believe a serial killer or mass murderer is suddenly going to Heaven instead of Hell just for repenting to a priest about deliberate, horrific acts they comitted just before they get executed? How about torturing someone until they confess their sins against the church, then finishing them off and killing them to send them to Heaven? These are all just absurd to even consider, in spite of the fact we could always just blame it on a simple misinterpretation and not blame it on what the Good Book says to the contrary.

And the idea that Jihadists are going to Heaven for killing innocent people while fighting in their imaginary Holy Wars that are entirely made up in their brainwashed heads, is equally repulsive to consider. That would be an abomination to their victims and send Heaven into an uproar if that was actually allowed. Yet clearly, being a Jihadist is a convienent fantasy when someone is actually just a crazy, cold blooded, psycho killer and they just want to murder people they don't like for whatever handy excuse. Then they have the unmitigated audacity to seek religious forgiveness and blessings for doing it.

So what is really the difference between Christianity and Islam then if they both allow unspeakable atrocities to be commited in their names, which can be so easily and effortlessly forgiven to get a free pass to Heaven?

But that's just a few examples of the absurdity of some of the religious dogma caused by mistranslations, deliberate omissions and alterations, and poor recollections, since most of what passes for religious books was written down considerably after the fact.
 
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bshole

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Meh,

I don't think ideas are the threat, it's people. If homicidal maniacs don't use religion to justify ghastly actions, they will simply substitute something else. Do you feel me? It isn't the philosophy that is dangerous, it is how people act upon a philosophy that is dangerous.

For example, the global warming theory is not dangerous. However when put into the hands of people like Eski, it could result in the implosion of the world economy, mass starvation and ruination. It is Eski and those of her ilk who are the threat, not the theory.
 
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Orignal Earl

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Yeah, get your !@#$ straight. This isn't the first.

I looked up beheadings in America, because I like to learn, and noted there was already one.
I also learned today OJ's wife was, and that when it happens over here the more popular phrase is decapitated
 

inf1nity

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You guys have had that Kashmir thing going on forever right?
And wiki says that where this group got started

Kashmir dispute is a bilateral dispute between India and Pakistan. IM has nothing to do with it. Their aim to create an Islamic state across South Asia.
the State Department acknowledging that the group had engaged in several terrorist attacks in India and had regional aspirations with the ultimate aim of creating an "Islamic caliphate" across South Asia.

e-mail to Indian media in which they claimed responsibility for the attacks[19] and said they would "demolish the faiths (all religions apart from Islam) of the infidels of India".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Mujahideen#cite_note-TheAustralian-expel-20


Also, the Kashmir dispute doesn't make India a war-torn country. You are from Canada right? According to that logic, Canada should be considered a war-torn country too, due to the Quebec sovereignty movement?
 

Orignal Earl

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Kashmir dispute is a bilateral dispute between India and Pakistan. IM has nothing to do with it. Their aim to create an Islamic state across South Asia.

From your link

Police investigations have revealed the group to be a front for the Pakistan based Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Its stated objective is to introduce an Islamic state in South Asia and to "liberate" Muslims residing in Indian Kashmir.

The LeT was formed in Afghanistan's Kunar province in 1990[2] and gained prominence in the early 1990s as a military offshoot of MDI

Wartorn
 
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Orignal Earl

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Also, the Kashmir dispute doesn't make India a war-torn country. You are from Canada right? According to that logic, Canada should be considered a war-torn country too, due to the Quebec sovereignty movement?

Pretty sure Quebec sovereignty movement is not terrorists, an offshoot, the FLQ was and were dealt with.
Yes, Quebec was a battleground during those days, not any where near what goes on in Kashmir, but as close as you can get for Canadians

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis
 
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JEDIYoda

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But what's important here is the message. Tonight Americans think of Islam, they'll think of this. Such violence is the symbol that is communicated. No other message is given. Thus the poll results.
Truth hurts, huh...the poll results.......we all know that this is no religion of Peace@!
 

Orignal Earl

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Every Islamic terrorist group ever formed in India uses the same old lame excuse of liberating the Indian muslims from the supposedly "ev1l Hindooz" (TM)

Gimme a break.

Practically every one of the thousands of terrorist groups in the world uses the excuse of liberating


Did you read the quotes?
You don't think Afghanistan isn't a wartorn country either? Your not even trying, your just running on spit and fear
 
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PingviN

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Islam doesn't really bring anything of value to the world. But then again, neither does any other religion.
 

runzwithsizorz

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Islam doesn't really bring anything of value to the world. But then again, neither does any other religion.
Hey now, that's not true, and you know it! *Most* all religions/church's offer help in disasters, shelter for homeless, and battered women, counseling, jobs, food, clothing, etc. Now, you could argue that these services come with strings attached, granted. However, the strings attached to al qaeda, hamas, isis, the muslim brotherhood, etc, is rather steep.
 

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Hey now, that's not true, and you know it! *Most* all religions/church's offer help in disasters, shelter for homeless, and battered women, counseling, jobs, food, clothing, etc. Now, you could argue that these services come with strings attached, granted. However, the strings attached to al qaeda, hamas, isis, the muslim brotherhood, etc, is rather steep.

And if Ebola infected zombies take over the world, expertise at cutting off heads would be a useful skill. So there's that upside to consider, too.
 

Orignal Earl

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Hey now, that's not true, and you know it! *Most* all religions/church's offer help in disasters, shelter for homeless, and battered women, counseling, jobs, food, clothing, etc. Now, you could argue that these services come with strings attached, granted. However, the strings attached to al qaeda, hamas, isis, the muslim brotherhood, etc, is rather steep.

Muslims are very famous for their charity

Muslim man performs deed and disappears, but Coast Mountain bus driver takes his picture

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...his-shoes-to-barefoot-bus-passenger-1.2620011

It's messed up you try and equate them with terror groups
 

PingviN

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Hey now, that's not true, and you know it! *Most* all religions/church's offer help in disasters, shelter for homeless, and battered women, counseling, jobs, food, clothing, etc. Now, you could argue that these services come with strings attached, granted. However, the strings attached to al qaeda, hamas, isis, the muslim brotherhood, etc, is rather steep.

The same charitable people would do the same even if they weren't religious.
 
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