Do you believe that Israel is America's friend??

[Pers]

Originally posted by: Elemental007

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Elemental007
16 out of 17 countries. That seems fairly representative. Switzerland has always been a neutral country in everything.

thought you said that'd be your last post.


and guess what, britian is part of europe. just cause it isnt mainland dont make it not european.

Britian is part of the EU. It just doesn't use the Euro.

OWNED

he's been owned like 200 times, what's your point?

 

[lowfatbaconboy]

you have the logical reasoning of a cabbage.......
seriously how can we debate with you and win

this is like the logic from one of scott adams dilbert books
"i like spagehti because my house is made of bricks" sorta logic

 

[lowfatbaconboy]

Originally posted by: Pers
lowfat - i dig your sig.

heh which part the nietzsche part.....because it applies to stuff like walleye or the other part?

 

[busmaster11]

Originally posted by: busmaster11

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Argo

I'm sick of the billion+ in aid we provide Isreal every year. There's no excuse for it.

I believe it's 2.4 billion per year.

we provide everywhere billions in aid. and beleive me, it's a lot more than 2.4 billion to isreal.


and there is a lot of reasons for it.

PROVE IT.

You would have a little bit more credibility if you demonstrated a vocabulary thats not so primitive as to resort to profanity.

Still waiting Walleye. Show me you're not a troll.

 

[Pers]

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

Originally posted by: Pers
lowfat - i dig your sig.

heh which part the nietzsche part.....because it applies to stuff like walleye or the other part?

exactly! the nietzsche part. although the latter wasn't bad either.

 

[lowfatbaconboy]

- All conflicts, or the inability to reach a compromise, are rooted in one of two things - misinformation or selfishness.

-from busmaster11's sig

i think that also applies to this thread......
especially the misinformation part of it

 

[Walleye]

allright.. since when does


"lol...yea...people hate us cause they're jealous of us and disney movies are based on true stories."


mean that supposedly i think the world is one big disney movie? i dont even understand what you mean by that, it makes no sense.


oh, i get it, you're holding the mossad (not our spy network) to a higher standard than our own spy network? get it strait, both spy networks misjudged the authenticity and the threat of those reports.

and i challenge you to find a link to where it says the mossad had exact knowledge that we were going to be attacked on september 11th.

and we get THOUSANDS of terrorist threats about SPECIFIC targets and SPECIFIC times.. guess what, most prove to be false.


and i'm having trouble finding where i'm sporting a mullet. care to locate it for me?

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy
um then how do u learn things about current issues?

almost every source is going to have some sort of bias but you just have to deal with it
i don't hear news casters to often going...."who needs israel we should stop supporting them"

what the fvck would you have israel do?

um not kill innocent people like terrorists
(and im not just talking about killing the guys throwing rocks at them)

i er.. read?

currently finishing "silencing political dissent, how post september-11th anti-terrorism measures threaten our civil liberties". i skimmed it once for a class, now i'm actually reading it.

terrorists arent innocent?

so the sniper that has the guy who has the jacket full of TNT in his scope shouldnt shoot him before he blows up 15 people?

(and this has happened, and the sniper shot, and the person died w/o triggering his bomb)

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Elemental007

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Elemental007
16 out of 17 countries. That seems fairly representative. Switzerland has always been a neutral country in everything.

thought you said that'd be your last post.


and guess what, britian is part of europe. just cause it isnt mainland dont make it not european.

Britian is part of the EU. It just doesn't use the Euro.

OWNED

i'll get back to you on that.

 

[KGB1]

^^ meh... you disgust me. Go outside of your house for a while. Maybe travel, see another country, converse with people, instead of posting this jargon you're fed daily.

:| Dude.. you're supposed to an eagle scout, thank the lord my friends; who've been in the scouts didn't turn out like you.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: busmaster11

Originally posted by: busmaster11

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: Argo

I'm sick of the billion+ in aid we provide Isreal every year. There's no excuse for it.

I believe it's 2.4 billion per year.

we provide everywhere billions in aid. and beleive me, it's a lot more than 2.4 billion to isreal.


and there is a lot of reasons for it.

PROVE IT.

You would have a little bit more credibility if you demonstrated a vocabulary thats not so primitive as to resort to profanity.

Still waiting Walleye. Show me you're not a troll.

prove which part? i already conceded the part about being alot more than 2.4 billion... it's actually 2.8 billion, sorry.

and the rest of the thread talks about the second part. why are you so special you deserve a special reply?

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: KGB
^^ meh... you disgust me. Go outside of your house for a while. Maybe travel, see another country, converse with people, instead of posting this jargon you're fed daily.

:| Dude.. you're supposed to an eagle scout, thank the lord my friends; who've been in the scouts didn't turn out like you.

i have gone out of my room... traveled through central europe, while i was at it.

 

[beer]

Walleye, go ahead, get back to me on the Great Britian part of the EU thing.

He'll I'll give you the link.

http://europa.eu.int

Let me know! kthxbye

 

[lowfatbaconboy]

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

 

[KGB1]

Originally posted by: Elemental007
Walleye, go ahead, get back to me on the Great Britian part of the EU thing.

He'll I'll give you the link.

http://europa.eu.int

Let me know! kthxbye

elemantal.. I'll usually back you up.. but walleye will eventually bring you down to his level of stupidity and beat you with experience.

There's absolutely no point in debating with him

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Elemental007
Walleye, go ahead, get back to me on the Great Britian part of the EU thing.

He'll I'll give you the link.

http://europa.eu.int

Let me know! kthxbye

i read somewhere that while britian was, england was not.. it was wierd. i wanted to check the authenticity of that claim.

oh well, i concede that.

england.respect --;

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

israelis try to not kill innocent people. but innocent people will die every time you have a military action. it's only natural.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

i dont watch fox news. i dont watch any news at all.

oh so thats why.......
stop posting.....

israelis treats palistinines like second class citizens or worse.....thats sorta like bringing it upon yourself

they treat all palistinines like terrorists......whenever they get bombed they basically march their troops and tanks into palestinine towns and kill people......oh no that guy threw a rock at my riot shield.....shoot him with a 5.56mm bullet

what the fvck would you have israel do?


oh, and irt not watching news...

what, i am supposed to watch some dumbass left spin crap as opposed to some dumbass right spin crap?

do you REALLY think that any other news source is unbiased? are you really that stupid?

they would have israel sit quitely while absorbing endless attacks upon its civilians. what they conveniently ignore are the cases where israel has held back after major attacks, only to continue recieving suicide bombers, gunmen, rockets and other assorted attrocities. the simple fact is the palestinian organizations were setup to eliminate israel as their ultimate and only goal, you cannot appease them. holding back? weakness, they just continue. they also know very well that death on either side bolsters their cause. israeli dead and their own. at every chance the world has appeased their tactics, tacit approval. with a history of releasing terrorists, negotiating with terrorists, its only going to continue as long as it is legitmized as it has been. its like asking what we could do to stop bin laden from plotting against us. convert to islam and become theocracies under sharia law. is this even negotiable? of course not.

the fact is the palestinians have from the very start chosen to attack civilians to achieve their political goals. it was palestinian attacks on villagers that caused jews to band together in groups for self protection even before israel was born. even before israel occupied the westbank and gaza the terrorism was there, and not against their occupiers at the time, egypt and jordan, but israel. it is in their official plo charter, the destruction of israel through terrorism. it was never changed. at every chance after every war they have chosen terror and war instead of building a society an infrastructure for their children even in the face of adversity. instead their schools, government media, government religious leaders, all preach hatred, incitment to violence, and glorification of murder. mothers declare on tv, radio and print how proud they are of their sons for killing israeli civilians. even arafats rich wife who lives in france thought it was ok to declare that she would be proud if her son became a suicide bomber. it is a corrupt culture not seen since the nazi's. this is not found in israel. of course the world just sees this as somehow normal, rationalizing their corruption, pretending that as they are, they can be reasoned with. the fact is 59% of palestinians polled would continue to support terrorism even after a state is created.

just remember how palestinian uprisings were put down in arab states. jordan? the king killed 20,000 to put them down.

 

[Turin39789]

meh, they also lockdown areas and search houses by going in and upturning everything in the homes and breaking a lot of stuff.

i know, im indulging in worthless posting, but its a holiday

 

[neonerd]

Originally posted by: Walleye

Originally posted by: slick230
I say fvck Israel. We give them so much, and what do we get in return? The hatred of the rest of the Middle East mainly because of our association with them. Not to mention all of the financial support that we give them that we will never see returns on. Fvck Isreal, fvck 'em right in the ear.

you're a real dumbass, aint ya?

we'd garner the hatred of the rest of the world regardless, simply because we're the most powerful and richest country in the world. people become envious, and want to blow us up.

the fact we protect isreal is because they're the only democracy in the region, and if we're spreading democracy, we better be damn well ready to protect what we start.

isreal functions as part of our intelligence network. dont beleive me? they have one of the largest and most effective intelligence networks in the world, second only to ours. they play a crucial role in the "war on terror" because of their proximity allows them alot of leeway on conducting raids on terrorist camps, and looking through cargo of ships, carrying terrorist weapons. groups like hamas and PLO.

isreali companies also supply us with very nice weapons where would we be without uzi's and desert eagles? :Q


edit:

the israeli intelligence agency is the Mossad... i had to go and look up the name.

well said

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Turin39789
meh, they also lockdown areas and search houses by going in and upturning everything in the homes and breaking a lot of stuff.

i know, im indulging in worthless posting, but its a holiday

which would be horrible if the palestinians were true people of peace and true innocents. with jack booted oppressors barging into homes for no reaon. that would be a wonderful fantasy that would fit our western preconceptions of oppressed people. instead in reality they smuggle rockets, guns, explosives through tunnels and homes to blow up women and children. to use bombs filled with shrapenal and rat poison to increase killing power. a people where the majority support indescriminant attacks on civilians.

 

[p4crusher]

The usa is giving isreal billions and weapons for 2 reasons.
1. Like in real estate location is everything, the arab's are sitting on the worlds largest oil supply. Due to this fact the usa will pay or take military action or partner with anyone (sadam,israel).

2. To destablize the reagion if a strong leader were to take over the region he would have an economic gun to the world's head.
The usa don't give a fxck about jews, israel is just a temp situation, as soon as the usa can get a stable independant military base
they will kick that bitch to the curb and say " gimme back my shxt trick @ss bxtch".

Just like they did with iraq gave money,weapons,training ect. When the hoe is useless then they take everything back.
In bush voice " bend over slut yea gimme my weapons, turn over open your border,yea ride it whose oil is this, Uh I'm cumming taking
over your whole county." America smokes a blunt for ten years then does it again.:beer:

 

[busmaster11]

Originally posted by: p4crusher
The usa don't give a fxck about jews, israel is just a temp situation, as soon as the usa can get a stable independant military base
they will kick that bitch to the curb and say " gimme back my shxt trick @ss bxtch".

Tell that to the lobbyists who control this country.

 

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: busmaster11

Originally posted by: p4crusher
The usa don't give a fxck about jews, israel is just a temp situation, as soon as the usa can get a stable independant military base
they will kick that bitch to the curb and say " gimme back my shxt trick @ss bxtch".

Tell that to the lobbyists who control this country.

Oh it's true I can count on one hand with fingers left over the " allies " the great usa did not screw over.
Why are the jews any different??
The usa has to establish a new world order, their order. Anybody or any country is fare game.

Let's face facts those who don't owe us billions (some trillions), are under the gun from us or our allies.
Why do you think the usa can go against the u.n.?
The only country that pimps harder than us is the vatican, who we owe trillions (world bank).

So cry me a moral river lobbyist, when the goverment get's ready no will be able to fight back and we all know talk is cheap.:beer:

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

So you are saying that Israelis try to kill innocent people? How do you know that?
Or am I missing something.....