Do you believe that Israel is America's friend??

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

So you are saying that Israelis try to kill innocent people? How do you know that?
Or am I missing something.....

Ha are you kidding let's see terrorist small group kills jews. Then jews in tanks and armed to the teeth fire on a crowd of unarmed people. Duh I don't know maybe??

Well how many accidental civilian deaths on how many encounters do you need??
Let's keep it real israel (hey that rhymes) does what ever they want because the usa protects them.

 

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

So you are saying that Israelis try to kill innocent people? How do you know that?
Or am I missing something.....

Ha are you kidding let's see terrorist small group kills jews. Then jews in tanks and armed to the teeth fire on a crowd of unarmed people. Duh I don't know maybe??

Well how many accidental civilian deaths on how many encounters do you need??
Let's keep it real israel (hey that rhymes) does what ever they want because the usa protects them.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

So you are saying that Israelis try to kill innocent people? How do you know that?
Or am I missing something.....

Ha are you kidding let's see terrorist small group kills jews. Then jews in tanks and armed to the teeth fire on a crowd of unarmed people. Duh I don't know maybe??

Well how many accidental civilian deaths on how many encounters do you need??
Let's keep it real israel (hey that rhymes) does what ever they want because the usa protects them.

Blatantly untrue. Israeli soldiers do not fire on crowds of unarmed people, I don't care what the media tells you. I myself served in the Israeli military, and I am quite familiar with the tactics and training used. I can tell you this; in IDF training the preservation of innocent life is stressed above all else. Don't believe everything the media throws your way.

 

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

So you are saying that Israelis try to kill innocent people? How do you know that?
Or am I missing something.....

Ha are you kidding let's see terrorist small group kills jews. Then jews in tanks and armed to the teeth fire on a crowd of unarmed people. Duh I don't know maybe??

Well how many accidental civilian deaths on how many encounters do you need??
Let's keep it real israel (hey that rhymes) does what ever they want because the usa protects them.

Blatantly untrue. Israeli soldiers do not fire on crowds of unarmed people, I don't care what the media tells you. I myself served in the Israeli military, and I am quite familiar with the tactics and training used. I can tell you this; in IDF training the preservation of innocent life is stressed above all else. Don't believe everything the media throws your way.

So everybody else is wrong and your right because your what YHWY (god).
Are you trying to say that no unarmed people where killed at all?
You where at every encounter, for how many years??

ROL not even you can believe that one.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

So you are saying that Israelis try to kill innocent people? How do you know that?
Or am I missing something.....

Ha are you kidding let's see terrorist small group kills jews. Then jews in tanks and armed to the teeth fire on a crowd of unarmed people. Duh I don't know maybe??

Well how many accidental civilian deaths on how many encounters do you need??
Let's keep it real israel (hey that rhymes) does what ever they want because the usa protects them.

Blatantly untrue. Israeli soldiers do not fire on crowds of unarmed people, I don't care what the media tells you. I myself served in the Israeli military, and I am quite familiar with the tactics and training used. I can tell you this; in IDF training the preservation of innocent life is stressed above all else. Don't believe everything the media throws your way.

So everybody else is wrong and your right because your what YHWY (god).

Huh? Why do you assume I'm religious? where did I say everybody else is wrong?

Are you trying to say that no unarmed people where killed at all?

No, try rereading it. I don't know if you've ever been in combat, but that's what happens. Israeli soldiers however, do not intentionally target innocent civillians.

You where at every encounter, for how many years??

Oh please, you were trying to make it like that's what the IDF does on a regular basis. I don't think you were talking about an isolated incident or two.

ROL not even you can believe that one.

Yeah waddever man.

 

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

So you are saying that Israelis try to kill innocent people? How do you know that?
Or am I missing something.....

Ha are you kidding let's see terrorist small group kills jews. Then jews in tanks and armed to the teeth fire on a crowd of unarmed people. Duh I don't know maybe??

Well how many accidental civilian deaths on how many encounters do you need??
Let's keep it real israel (hey that rhymes) does what ever they want because the usa protects them.

Blatantly untrue. Israeli soldiers do not fire on crowds of unarmed people, I don't care what the media tells you. I myself served in the Israeli military, and I am quite familiar with the tactics and training used. I can tell you this; in IDF training the preservation of innocent life is stressed above all else. Don't believe everything the media throws your way.

So everybody else is wrong and your right because your what YHWY (god).

Huh? Why do you assume I'm religious? where did I say everybody else is wrong?

Are you trying to say that no unarmed people where killed at all?

No, try rereading it. I don't know if you've ever been in combat, but that's what happens. Israeli soldiers however, do not intentionally target innocent civillians.

You where at every encounter, for how many years??

Oh please, you were trying to make it like that's what the IDF does on a regular basis. I don't think you were talking about an isolated incident or two.

ROL not even you can believe that one.

Yeah waddever man.

Every month the idf kills civilians with soldiers,helecopters,tanks ect. It is next to impossible to fight in an urban setting without accidents right.

Well mr idf put the shoe on the other foot and arabs claiming to look for terrorist (love that word it so catchy) come to your town fully armed with tanks and helicopters. How many people over how many years would it take for you to think oh shxt it's on purpose.

Israel can claim no high moral ground here chief. They bomb suspected terrorist sites (catchy word) and fly into other countries to bomb
suspected targets without anyone's approval. Hey and with american weapons given to them by daddy fed.

If you don't want any more "accidents" then give them the land but moshe won't do that will he. Katsav's got to keep the fight going or daddy fed might cut his allowance and take away his toys.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Every month the idf kills civilians with soldiers,helecopters,tanks ect. It is next to impossible to fight in an urban setting without accidents right.

Well mr idf put the shoe on the other foot and arabs claiming to look for terrorist (love that word it so catchy) come to your town fully armed with tanks and helicopters. How many people over how many years would it take for you to think oh shxt it's on purpose.

Israel can claim no high moral ground here chief. They bomb suspected terrorist sites (catchy word) and fly into other countries to bomb
suspected targets without anyone's approval. Hey and with american weapons given to them by daddy fed.

If you don't want any more "accidents" then give them the land but moshe won't do that will he. Katsav's got to keep the fight going or daddy fed might cut his allowance and take away his toys.

Dude, stop while you're not too far behind. KATSAV?! Do you know ANYTHING about Israel and it's form of government, or did you do a quick google search for "Israel president"? Katsav has no power, he doesn't make decisions. The president of Israel is a largely ceremonial role. The power is in the Kenesset and the Prmie Minister's office. Get a clue before you post.

 

[p4crusher]

If that's all you can say then I guess you have seen the light.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: p4crusher
If that's all you can say then I guess you have seen the light.

Ladies and Gentlemen, another prime example of a clueless Israel-basher. Maybe he's watched a talk show where a Palestinian mouthpiece was talking about how the "big bad Israelis" were oppressing the "poor Palestinian innocent civillians" and he bought into it. Or maybe he hasn't even watched that. Either way, he's jumping on the bash-Israel bandwagon without a frigging clue of what's actually going on there. They're going to take away "Katsav's toys", does it get any more clueless than that? There are some informed people here who I argue with all the time, and they know who they are. While I generally disagree with many of them, they do know wtf they are talking about. This guy and his ilk are just a waste of time.

 

[rickn]

Quite frankly, I'm sick of the whole Israel/Middle East crap. I wish they just blow each other off the face of the map. The Jewish lobby is very active in this country, thus our irresponsible behaviour in the peace process and that so-called claim of a middle east free of weapons of mass destruction. Anti-semitism is also growing in the USA, affording the notion that indeed Israel may not be perceived as a great friend of the USA nor a purveyor of peace.

 

[Siwy]

Maybe he's watched a talk show where a Palestinian mouthpiece was talking about how the "big bad Israelis" were oppressing the "poor Palestinian innocent civillians" and he bought into it.

You do not have to hear it from Palestinian mouthpiece. How about Amnesty International? or maybe Human Rights Watch?

To say that the oppression of innocent civilians is justified is another matter, but to say it does not exist is delusional.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Siwy

Maybe he's watched a talk show where a Palestinian mouthpiece was talking about how the "big bad Israelis" were oppressing the "poor Palestinian innocent civillians" and he bought into it.

You do not have to hear it from Palestinian mouthpiece. How about Amnesty International? or maybe Human Rights Watch?

To say that the oppression of innocent civilians is justified is another matter, but to say it does not exist is delusional.

Either you completely missed the point I was making or you are deliberately taking one sentence out of context.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

So you are saying that Israelis try to kill innocent people? How do you know that?
Or am I missing something.....

Ha are you kidding let's see terrorist small group kills jews. Then jews in tanks and armed to the teeth fire on a crowd of unarmed people. Duh I don't know maybe??

Well how many accidental civilian deaths on how many encounters do you need??
Let's keep it real israel (hey that rhymes) does what ever they want because the usa protects them.

Blatantly untrue. Israeli soldiers do not fire on crowds of unarmed people, I don't care what the media tells you. I myself served in the Israeli military, and I am quite familiar with the tactics and training used. I can tell you this; in IDF training the preservation of innocent life is stressed above all else. Don't believe everything the media throws your way.

So everybody else is wrong and your right because your what YHWY (god).
Are you trying to say that no unarmed people where killed at all?
You where at every encounter, for how many years??

ROL not even you can believe that one.

i'm sure you believe that the us dropped bombs on kids in afganistan on purpose too huh?

the fact is that the idf teaches its soldiers to avoid civilians. the truth is that israeli society teaches tolerance. the truth is the exact opposite for the palestinians.

 

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy

um not kill innocent people like terrorists

sorry i am lazy it should read:
isralies should not kill innocent people, like terrorists kill innocent people

So you are saying that Israelis try to kill innocent people? How do you know that?
Or am I missing something.....

Ha are you kidding let's see terrorist small group kills jews. Then jews in tanks and armed to the teeth fire on a crowd of unarmed people. Duh I don't know maybe??

Well how many accidental civilian deaths on how many encounters do you need??
Let's keep it real israel (hey that rhymes) does what ever they want because the usa protects them.

Blatantly untrue. Israeli soldiers do not fire on crowds of unarmed people, I don't care what the media tells you. I myself served in the Israeli military, and I am quite familiar with the tactics and training used. I can tell you this; in IDF training the preservation of innocent life is stressed above all else. Don't believe everything the media throws your way.

So everybody else is wrong and your right because your what YHWY (god).
Are you trying to say that no unarmed people where killed at all?
You where at every encounter, for how many years??

ROL not even you can believe that one.

i'm sure you believe that the us dropped bombs on kids in afganistan on purpose too huh?

the fact is that the idf teaches its soldiers to avoid civilians. the truth is that israeli society teaches tolerance. the truth is the exact opposite for the palestinians.

Look I don't care how much training the idf gets it's impossible to fight in an urban setting with out killing civilians. Any soldier can tell you that. So quit while your ahead. You know if the shoe was on the other foot you would say the same thing.

Might makes right. The usa and israel are not on a moral high ground. Both do what they want even if if goes against the u.n. or international law.

Any objective person can see this clearly as the history is there. Is there a double standard HELL YEA!!!!
So don't go spouting weak excuses about so-called justification blah-blah-blah. The usa will arm,train,pay ect. israel as long as it's in their best interest and israel will try to make sure the usa stays interested.

If the usa can set up a goverment or a large military force then israel is up shvt's creek. Just like any other ally that owes us money and
can't pay. They will get pimped.

While I don't like billions being given to israel I understand why. I guess all the jews think daddy fed is just a philanthropist.
I can't wait to see israel cry when the usa says "Bltch pay me".:beer:

 

[Red Dawn]

Do you believe that Israel is America's friend??

Yeah a fair weathered friend or what is known as a "Friend in need!" Take away all the freebies and the security we offer them and they'd not be so freindly towards us.

 

[Trente]

I can't wait to see israel cry when the usa says "Bltch pay me"

Do you realize that money given to Israel by the U.S. is reinvested in its economy?

If the U.S. had no interest in paying money to Israel, it would not have done so.

 

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: Trente

I can't wait to see israel cry when the usa says "Bltch pay me"

Do you realize that money given to Israel by the U.S. is reinvested in its economy?

If the U.S. had no interest in paying money to Israel, it would not have done so.

Israel can't foot the bill for all of daddy fed's toys (fuel,parts,maintenance ect.) and still remain solvent i.e. it's economy would collapse. They would not be able to survive without daddy fed.

 

[Trente]

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: Trente

I can't wait to see israel cry when the usa says "Bltch pay me"

Do you realize that money given to Israel by the U.S. is reinvested in its economy?

If the U.S. had no interest in paying money to Israel, it would not have done so.

Israel can't foot the bill for all of daddy fed's toys (fuel,parts,maintenance ect.) and still remain solvent i.e. it's economy would collapse. They would not be able to survive without daddy fed.

What does that have to do with my remark?!

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: Trente

I can't wait to see israel cry when the usa says "Bltch pay me"

Do you realize that money given to Israel by the U.S. is reinvested in its economy?

If the U.S. had no interest in paying money to Israel, it would not have done so.

Israel can't foot the bill for all of daddy fed's toys (fuel,parts,maintenance ect.) and still remain solvent i.e. it's economy would collapse. They would not be able to survive without daddy fed.

You're shameless, aren't you. You've clearly demonstrated that you don't know wtf is going on there, so pipe down already.

 

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: Trente

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: Trente

I can't wait to see israel cry when the usa says "Bltch pay me"

Do you realize that money given to Israel by the U.S. is reinvested in its economy?

If the U.S. had no interest in paying money to Israel, it would not have done so.

Israel can't foot the bill for all of daddy fed's toys (fuel,parts,maintenance ect.) and still remain solvent i.e. it's economy would collapse. They would not be able to survive without daddy fed.

What does that have to do with my remark?!

If you read the earlier post that was already answered.

 

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: Trente

I can't wait to see israel cry when the usa says "Bltch pay me"

Do you realize that money given to Israel by the U.S. is reinvested in its economy?

If the U.S. had no interest in paying money to Israel, it would not have done so.

Israel can't foot the bill for all of daddy fed's toys (fuel,parts,maintenance ect.) and still remain solvent i.e. it's economy would collapse. They would not be able to survive without daddy fed.

You're shameless, aren't you. You've clearly demonstrated that you don't know wtf is going on there, so pipe down already.

Oh great one please enlighten this unworthy wretch.

 

[Vadatajs]

NO, they are not our friend. They didn't even support us in the iraq war.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
NO, they are not our friend. They didn't even support us in the iraq war.

Care to elaborate?

 

[p4crusher]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
NO, they are not our friend. They didn't even support us in the iraq war.

Care to elaborate?

Why don't you elaborate what's your position? Do you have one besides the idf does not kill civilians ever (despite confirmation from amnesty international/red cross ect)?

What's really going on? Is israel more than a money grabbing slut in usa middle east foreign policy?

If the money and weapons were cut off would they still be our little buddy??
Is the idf guilty of human rights violations or is it massive conspiracy??
Does saying the truth make me an jew basher??

Are you being owned and just don't know it??

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: p4crusher

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
NO, they are not our friend. They didn't even support us in the iraq war.

Care to elaborate?

Why don't you elaborate what's your position? Do you have one besides the idf does not kill civilians ever (despite confirmation from amnesty international/red cross ect)?

What's really going on? Is israel more than a money grabbing slut in usa middle east foreign policy?

If the money and weapons were cut off would they still be our little buddy??
Is the idf guilty of human rights violations or is it massive conspiracy??
Does saying the truth make me an jew basher??

Are you being owned and just don't know it??

I wasn't going to waste time and bandwidth replying to your childish and ignorant posts, but you saying that I'm being owned just made me laugh. Why don't you scroll up a bit and read about Moshe Katsav's "toys".