Do you believe that man and the dinosaurs lived at the same time?

[sandorski]

Quit wasting your time people. He made it clear many posts ago that he hasno response to anything other than not answering a question. You're all wasting your time and AT's bandwidth.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Seekermeister

God never did this either. Yes, He expelled Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, but that was for their own good. God never forsook either of them, or anyone else. There was no hate in His act.

Who dod you know? Did god tell you?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Imagine a person who while messing around with a paper clip sticks in into an electrical socket and electrocutes himself. The surge of electrons through is brain stops all rational thought and ends all existential pain for some moments of time as his brain temporarily flat-lines. He spends the rest of his life trying to bring this wonderful peace to you. What you need to do, you see, is every Wednesday as 7:09 PM bend a paper clip into a very particular shape while listening to The Walrus in the background. The lights need to be turned on and off and you have to have on only one shoe. Then you grab the faucet with one hand and with the other you poke the paper clip just so into the plug where your toaster goes. If you miss any of these vital steps, however, you may instead wind up in hell. The gate is very narrow and many are lost along the way. Such is the will of God.

This is now written up in a book called the Holy Electric Blue full of all kinds of stories about what it's like to live flat-lined and none of this text can be questioned. And it takes years of practice to get the whole ritual down so you'll have to work at it hard.

You have no right to discuss electricity with he who knows how to bend a paper clip you sad lost fool. You speak of amps when it's all about the angle of bend.

wow. :Q

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: techs
For those who take the Bible literally do you believe that man and dinosaur lived at the same time?
I saw an evangelical Christian saying this on t.v. the other night.
I was just wondering who believes it and how you reconcile it with the scientific evidence.

I'm amazed this thread has been going on for so long.

When I first saw it, I thought it was kinda silly. I don't see how it matters much, if any, whether someone believes man & dino's co-existed.

Who knows, maybe they did and science has found no evidence yet.

Who knows, maybe there are still some undiscovered dino's around in some deep jungle habitat.

The word "dinosaur" wasn't in existance until well after the Bible was written. The means to categorize species etc didn't exist either.

Is there any description in the Bible which could sound similar to a dinosaur? Perhaps, but a giant salt water croc looks like a dino to me. I imagine it would to someone in a little wooden boat back then as well (though they couldn't have used the word dinosaur).

At the end of the day, you can't disprove it. You can say that there is no accepted evidence of it. I remember when that (prehistoric) fish thought long extinct was "discovered". Some kind of "ichthy thingy" in South America, IIRC.

Fern

 

[miketheidiot]

Dinosaurs still exist, they just grew feathers.


*at least this is a statement i have heard.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Dinosaurs still exist, they just grew feathers.


*at least this is a statement i have heard.

With a six thousand pound roadrunner in the neighborhood we wouldn't be getting all smug about our thumbs would we?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Dinosaurs still exist, they just grew feathers.


*at least this is a statement i have heard.

With a six thousand pound roadrunner in the neighborhood we wouldn't be getting all smug about our thumbs would we?

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[bamacre]

Actually, we have found live specimins of animals thought extinct 10's of millions of years ago. Such as the Coelacanth.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Actually, we have found live specimins of animals thought extinct 10's of millions of years ago. Such as the Coelacanth.

Yes, and we have living proof that man is decended from Chimpanzees...

 

[Bill Brasky]

Why does this even matter? A meteor hit the Earth and killed everything so they had to start over anyway.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Why does this even matter? A meteor hit the Earth and killed everything so they had to start over anyway.

It seems that it's because said meteor isn't mentioned anywhere in the bible, hence it obviously didn't happen.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Why does this even matter? A meteor hit the Earth and killed everything so they had to start over anyway.

Not quite everything. A lot of things, but definitely not everything.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Imagine a person who while messing around with a paper clip sticks in into an electrical socket and electrocutes himself. The surge of electrons through is brain stops all rational thought and ends all existential pain for some moments of time as his brain temporarily flat-lines. He spends the rest of his life trying to bring this wonderful peace to you. What you need to do, you see, is every Wednesday as 7:09 PM bend a paper clip into a very particular shape while listening to The Walrus in the background. The lights need to be turned on and off and you have to have on only one shoe. Then you grab the faucet with one hand and with the other you poke the paper clip just so into the plug where your toaster goes. If you miss any of these vital steps, however, you may instead wind up in hell. The gate is very narrow and many are lost along the way. Such is the will of God.

This is now written up in a book called the Holy Electric Blue full of all kinds of stories about what it's like to live flat-lined and none of this text can be questioned. And it takes years of practice to get the whole ritual down so you'll have to work at it hard.

You have no right to discuss electricity with he who knows how to bend a paper clip you sad lost fool. You speak of amps when it's all about the angle of bend.

After all has been said and done in this thread, I'm firmly convinced that Moonbeam knows more about God than Seekermeister ever will.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Imagine a person who while messing around with a paper clip sticks in into an electrical socket and electrocutes himself. The surge of electrons through is brain stops all rational thought and ends all existential pain for some moments of time as his brain temporarily flat-lines. He spends the rest of his life trying to bring this wonderful peace to you. What you need to do, you see, is every Wednesday as 7:09 PM bend a paper clip into a very particular shape while listening to The Walrus in the background. The lights need to be turned on and off and you have to have on only one shoe. Then you grab the faucet with one hand and with the other you poke the paper clip just so into the plug where your toaster goes. If you miss any of these vital steps, however, you may instead wind up in hell. The gate is very narrow and many are lost along the way. Such is the will of God.

This is now written up in a book called the Holy Electric Blue full of all kinds of stories about what it's like to live flat-lined and none of this text can be questioned. And it takes years of practice to get the whole ritual down so you'll have to work at it hard.

You have no right to discuss electricity with he who knows how to bend a paper clip you sad lost fool. You speak of amps when it's all about the angle of bend.

After all has been said and done in this thread, I'm firmly convinced that Moonbeam knows more about God than Seekermeister ever will.

Hehe, I think this is a complement but one, the truth of which, I have no idea about. My interest are in the dangers of the exclusivity of faith. I believe these things:

Religion is a bridge whose construction had as its intent the awakening of the sleeper. The nature of our sleep is that we can't will ourself awake because we are asleep. We dream that we are awakening or are awake.

Awakening requires some sort of alarm clock, a shock to the sleeping mind. This is done best by people who are awake but it happens also spontaneously, perhaps to light sleepers or those not so heavily drugged. Some or all of the three successive main waves of monotheism present in our world today are deposits of knowledge acquired from the world of the awake that form the bricks of religious bridges intended to provide pointers along the way to the awakened state. By acquisition of a common culture of meaningful information, technicians who are awake can refer to these mutually acquired reference points like bells to shock the mind. They are like eating time bombs or alarm clocks that can be set off by people with knowledge.

Thus, in some respects, religious texts are profoundly sacred because they contain information that can awaken you. The faith that they are the exact word of God can be a positive because it is difficult to awaken and trusting that one can is better than being sure their is no such think as awakening.

At one time the world was huge and each place could have its only religion, but the world today is becoming global. People of faith who are still asleep to the point of their religion are at war with other such similar people as to whose is the best bridge. It is this that interests me. What are we going to do with folk who have the only answer that is one real answer of many. How do we retain the notion that there is a real awakening as those who sleep kill each other over their various techniques and traditions.

Is it time for religion to die? Do we need to understand that sleep is self hate and that religion is love of a kind that counters it? I do not know. And I also do not know about God. I think maybe I experienced a tiny moment of awakening that came from a different direction. It was the Zen story of the man and the strawberry that helped me to see whatever little thing is was that happened to me.

At any rate, the religious path was closed to me. I had no faith. I saw only when I let go that everything I had ever hoped for was always there, not a big huge thing out there but a little thing in me.

I believe also that when the ego finally dies in total full surrender duality ceases. This is where the awakened go. In such a state of God consciousness either what is small inside becomes huge or what is huge outside becomes what's within. In total unity with the universe in the now God must be real because there can be nothing but the all. "The eye with which I see God is the same eye with which he sees me." It's funny how the universe worked out that way.

Seekermeister may know God far better than me because I don't know much at all. What I believe is false is his exclusivity. I suspect it may be a thing that has become counterproductive today. I feel it is time for the religion and the science of psychology to retrieve together the proper heritage of man, the notion that man sleeps and can awaken.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Harvey
For me, religion is useless. I'll stick with science.

Science does not contradict my religious beliefs.

What he said.

 

[oldman420]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Why are people bothering to debate this? Everyone knows that the bible doesn't logically add up in some places. People who have decided to believe in it anyway are not going to be persuaded by an appeal to logic, or through factual argument.

This is literally a waste of your time unless your only purpose is to feel superior to the fundies who you think are subscribing to a fairy tale to base their lives around. Religion is just one of those things that logical argument doesn't apply to.

here here

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Zaitsev
Why does this even matter? A meteor hit the Earth and killed everything so they had to start over anyway.

Not quite everything. A lot of things, but definitely not everything.

Yeah, wtf, why can't even g_d kill a cockroach?

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
The Bible was written in a simpler time for a simpler people.

Which is an EXCELLENT reason why it should be discarded.

Certainly as a scientific text it's near worthless. But to say that it has no value is just ignorant.

Well it has no value to those who do not believe in it.

Completely ignorant statement. I'm an agnostic, I don't believe in God, but to say that the Bible has no value is absolutely ridiculous. To say the stories are meaningless without faith in the divine is equally ridiculous. I'm impressed that you can claim that a book that has endured for 2,000 years is worthless just because you don't believe in God.

 

[cryptonomicon]

gonna have to go with family guy explanation on this one


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7I73DNguRI

 

[Jaskalas]

To the OP:

Of course we didn?t live during the time of the dinosaurs; we were a distinctly different spices back then.

If you want to get technical then we?re all part of this planet, except for some space dust ? and the even the entire planet boils down to being just that. So in the end, while our matter certainly was hanging around, I still refrain from speaking as though it was ?us?.

 

[Conky]

Of course man and the dinosaur lived at the same time. Haven't you ever heard of the Flintstones? Duh.

P.S. I hate these thinly veiled attempts to mock the bible and people of religion.

 

[GoPackGo]

Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible.

No, they are not.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible.

lol

Perhaps these were the other sheep that he suggested he had to go attend. Day late and a dollar short, eh bub?

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible.

No, they are not.

source:
http://bibleresources.bible.com/keyword...earchBible&keyword=dinosaur&version=51