Do you belive that Dinosaurs once existed?

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Maetryx

Creationism is based on faith which is rationally undisputable.

That is absolutely false. Creationism is based on the logical impossibility of a causeless effect. Creationist believe in an uncreated creator. The chain of cause and effect must have an ultimate cause, because the universe had a beginning, is finite in size, and it is logically impossible that it created itself. A finite universe cannot hold an actual infinite. The chain of cause and effect is not infinite.

i'm atheist, but i don't agree with you. why does there have to be an ultimate cause? in our world, yes, everything has a cause. but that doesn't mean that it is universally true. there are some things that we just can't grasp, and if there were a god, i bet how he got there would be one of them.

 

[Maetryx]

I think you are right, gopunk. God "got there" in a way that is not possible in our universe. Nothing in this universe is infinite and uncreated. Timelessness is one of those things that we just can't grasp. God is that one thing that didn't have a cause. The universe is the thing in which everything has a cause.

There has to be an ultimate cause outside of this universe because we can investigate it and notice that it had a beginning. Therefore, it had a beginner. Some think that the universe sprang from nothing. They irrationally believe in the efficacy of the nothing. This is irrational because not one observable phenomenon, not one law of thermodynamics or physics could rationally lead one to the belief that the nothing has any causative properties whatsoever.

 

[Harvey]

Religion is a bad excuse for philosophy. They both attempt to address questions about the unknown. The main difference is, at least in philosophy, "I don't know" is an acceptable answer.

The universe may or may not be infinite in time, space, or any other dimension, but for the moment, our knowledge is definitely bounded.

 

[chiwawa626]

2 more replys from him:

Who made up the dinosoar bones rather. Their is no telling what them fruitcake scientists have done with elephant bones and rhinosaurus bones. Anyway who cares about dinosaur bones whenever the most important thing is What are you gonna do with the Creator the Lord Jesus Christ. You owe Him your life. He gave Himself a ransom so that you might be saved. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotton Son that whosoever beliveth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Listen friend If you miss Him the Lord Jesus Christ you will have missed it all and it would have been better had you not been born. sincerley Forrest

and:

It really doesnt matter to me what they are. I dont belive that dinosoars ever existed on earth ill tell you that because Almighty God didnt record them in His Holy Bible. That Bible is inerrant has no errors in it. It is perfect. Scientists can make up whatever they want and dupe the masses but as for me I will trust in God. have a nice day sincerley forest


I thanked him for enlightening me and told him to have a good day

 

[Cyberian]

Their is no telling what them fruitcake scientists have done with elephant bones and rhinosaurus bones.

Tough to argue that point!!

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Maetryx

Creationism is based on faith which is rationally undisputable.

That is absolutely false. Creationism is based on the logical impossibility of a causeless effect. Creationist believe in an uncreated creator. The chain of cause and effect must have an ultimate cause, because the universe had a beginning, is finite in size, and it is logically impossible that it created itself. A finite universe cannot hold an actual infinite. The chain of cause and effect is not infinite.

i'm atheist, but i don't agree with you. why does there have to be an ultimate cause? in our world, yes, everything has a cause. but that doesn't mean that it is universally true. there are some things that we just can't grasp, and if there were a god, i bet how he got there would be one of them.

There's actually some hypotheses being formulated that state that the universe may be in a constant cycle of expand/collapse - if that were the case, the universe could, theoretically, go on forever.

Personally, I believe in the "first cause" explanation for the moment - it makes sense, although I don't readily accept the Christian interpretation of god.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Their is no telling what them fruitcake scientists have done with elephant bones and rhinosaurus bones.

Tough to argue that point!!

LOL,Speaking of dinosaurs ! how ya doing dude ?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Their is no telling what them fruitcake scientists have done with elephant bones and rhinosaurus bones.

Tough to argue that point!!

Oh, impossible.

Just like priests have never altered religious texts or bent social and political movements to suit their own whims.

 

[LordMaul]

Well, that's a two part question.

Darwin's Theory IS BS...

But yes, dinos existed. Just not some billions of years ago.

 

[fatbaby]

Originally posted by: datalink7
No, they never existed. It would be quite impossible for dinosaurs to exist. After all, the earth is only 6000 years old, and there is no recorded instance of dinosaurs in the Bible. The bones were just put there by the devil to tempt us from the path of God. Do not believe those atheistic scientists. They do the work of the devil.

Believe in the Lord and trust his word (the Bible), and you will see the truth.

Or maybe Satan sent you to deter us from the path of the truth? Or perhaps he sent me to deliver this message to deter us all? Perhaps...

 

[bonk102]

of course i believe dinosaurs existed, come on

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: chiwawa626
I thanked him for enlightening me and told him to have a good day

You forgot to include the most important words at the end of your sentence... somewhere else.

 

[Red Dawn]

But yes, dinos existed. Just not some billions of years ago.

No just hundreds of millions of years ago

 

[glen]

No just hundreds of millions of years ago

How can you remember?

 

[Red Dawn]

How can you remember?

Your mother told me.

 

[Maverick]

Originally posted by: chiwawa626


he replys:
Ill tell you how I can be sure the Bible is true. I was a satanist and I stole a Holy King James Bible to use in a satanic ritual. What happened next astonished me and shocked me as I opened up that Bible and began to read it the Holy Ghost of God began to deal with my wicked heart.

translation: he did mushrooms

 

[snooker]

Warm Mineral Springs in NorthPort Florida...... I watched them raise an intact skeleton of a sabertooth tiger from waaaaayyyy down.... So yup. I do believe they existed at one point in time.

Plus I have watched National Geographic when they film a dig somewhere.

 

[Jfur]

Originally posted by: Shiva112

Originally posted by: chiwawa626


he replys:
Ill tell you how I can be sure the Bible is true. I was a satanist and I stole a Holy King James Bible to use in a satanic ritual. What happened next astonished me and shocked me as I opened up that Bible and began to read it the Holy Ghost of God began to deal with my wicked heart.

translation: he did mushrooms

there was actually a popular book that argued "Jesus" was the code name for a psychedelic mushroom -- can't remember the name right now

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

How can you remember?

Your mother told me.

I would say cuz HE was there. But since we're the same age...I won't.

 

[OutHouse]

dude give us the link to that forum and let us join in some weekend fun.

(wife is having a pampered chef party and im BORED!!!!)

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

How can you remember?

Your mother told me.

HAHAHAHAHAH nice

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: baffled2

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Their is no telling what them fruitcake scientists have done with elephant bones and rhinosaurus bones.

Tough to argue that point!!

LOL,Speaking of dinosaurs ! how ya doing dude ?

Just fine for an Old Green Fart!
I don't really remember much about the dinosaurs, 'cause I was just a kid when they were around.

 

[Swanny]

I am Catholic and I have no problem with Dinosaurs existing. How else do you explain the really big bones in rocks?

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: chiwawa626
2 more replys from him:

Who made up the dinosoar bones rather. Their is no telling what them fruitcake scientists have done with elephant bones and rhinosaurus bones. Anyway who cares about dinosaur bones whenever the most important thing is What are you gonna do with the Creator the Lord Jesus Christ. You owe Him your life. He gave Himself a ransom so that you might be saved. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotton Son that whosoever beliveth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Listen friend If you miss Him the Lord Jesus Christ you will have missed it all and it would have been better had you not been born. sincerley Forrest

and:

It really doesnt matter to me what they are. I dont belive that dinosoars ever existed on earth ill tell you that because Almighty God didnt record them in His Holy Bible. That Bible is inerrant has no errors in it. It is perfect. Scientists can make up whatever they want and dupe the masses but as for me I will trust in God. have a nice day sincerley forest


I thanked him for enlightening me and told him to have a good day

I love people like that. They're such easy targets and its so easy to mock them

 

[CZroe]

Don't you people know what the words "Leviathon" and "Behemoth" refer to? Christians, Jews, and all believers of the Old Testament posting here I'm ashamed of you. Not knowing enough about your own faith to remember two simple words that are engrained in everyday speach! You hear them in TELEVISION commercials for crying out loud! Do a search. Not only does the Bible describe Dinosaurs, but it describes EXACTLY how they were preserved... THE FLOOD. THAT is why there is a tree growing straight up through "billions" of years of (Sedementary!) layers. THAT is what explains the earth's recorded "mass extinctions" with no record of evolutionary "links." Evolution is full of holes and Creation's only hole is that you can not explain it.