Do you belive that Dinosaurs once existed?

[Red Dawn]

Of course they talk about floods. They are natural occurence.

 

[JupiterJones]

There is probably not one book which survives in anything like its original form. There are hundreds of differences between the oldest manuscripts of any one book. These differences indicate that numerous additions and alterations were made to the originals by various copyists and editors.

Utter nonsense. Do a little research on Textual Criticism. The ignorance present in the above remark is, itself, remarkable.

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: CZroe

Originally posted by: Linflas The fossil record now extends back into the Precambrian with some of the oldest in the range of 3.5 billion years old. To focus solely on dinosaur fossils obscures the extent and breadth of the fossil record of earths history.

The fossil record does not reflect time, periods, or eras of any kind. There is no PROVEN dating method except the sheer impossibility fo rthe solar system to have sustained itself for even 1 billion years. If I provided an infinite sized cup of water that is leaking 3 drops per year with no information as to how much was in it to begin with and I ask "how old it is based on the level of water it currently contains?" this is how an evolutionist using carbon dating would do it: He would estimate USING EVOLUTIONARY THEORY how old another infinite sized cup is, measure the water content, compare it to the cup I gave him and provide an estimate. There is no way to know how much of the measured substance was there to begin with. There is no way to know how fast it truly decomposes. There is no way to know if the decomposition rate has been altered. There is no way to know how old a previously existing sample is based on the content of a "new" sample today because both samples never had the same "level" of "water"

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"The carbon-14 atoms that cosmic rays create combine with oxygen to form carbon dioxide, which plants absorb naturally and incorporate into plant fibers by photosynthesis. Animals and people eat plants and take in carbon-14 as well. The ratio of normal carbon (carbon-12) to carbon-14 in the air and in all living things at any given time is nearly constant. Maybe one in a trillion carbon atoms are carbon-14. The carbon-14 atoms are always decaying, but they are being replaced by new carbon-14 atoms at a constant rate. At this moment, your body has a certain percentage of carbon-14 atoms in it, and all living plants and animals have the same percentage.

As soon as a living organism dies, it stops taking in new carbon. The ratio of carbon-12 to carbon-14 at the moment of death is the same as every other living thing, but the carbon-14 decays and is not replaced. The carbon-14 decays with its half-life of 5,700 years, while the amount of carbon-12 remains constant in the sample. By looking at the ratio of carbon-12 to carbon-14 in the sample and comparing it to the ratio in a living organism, it is possible to determine the age of a formerly living thing fairly precisely."


You were saying?

 

[smp]

Looks like I was a little late with the carbon dating stuff

Originally posted by: globalstud
You must understand. When the people of the world finally face the reality of their limited existence, there will be anarchy?

Yes, and then we'll finally be our own masters.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: PastorDon
There is probably not one book which survives in anything like its original form. There are hundreds of differences between the oldest manuscripts of any one book. These differences indicate that numerous additions and alterations were made to the originals by various copyists and editors.

Utter nonsense. Do a little research on Textual Criticism. The ignorance present in the above remark is, itself, remarkable.

I assume we're talking about the bible.

The bible is one of the most translated and copied books of all time. It would be extremely ignorant to claim that the versions out of the bible now are exactly or near exactly the same as the bible when it was first conceived onto paper. Ever play "telephone" when you were a child?

 

[smp]

RE: my sig and my last comment.

Plate was wrong and he fvcked things up by insisting on the dualism of good/bad when good/bad does not exist. Something we've been bound by for a long time and Christians are definately mentally chained by that, as are all people.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Of course they talk about floods. They are natural occurence.

Yes! This what I try to tell people. Floods are naturally occuring and would prove to be VERY destructive to most ancient groups of people since so many settled near water. So it's only natural that it'd be written about. Many of the stories listed by PastorDon are simple river floods - many of which still occur regularly in the indicated regions today.

 

[JupiterJones]

Of course they talk about floods. They are natural occurence

You are a real piece of work, Red. These are not "creek risin'" myths, these all have to do with Deluges, generally as a result of sin and generally killing almost everyone.

Point is, you know the difference, and yet make the above comment. To you, a verbal jab is more important than truth.

There is a reason that so many experts are pointing to the Dead Sea flood as being the Deluge. The natural conclusion of the commonality of flood myths is that they represent a common historic event.

 

[Red Dawn]

Point is, you know the difference, and yet make the above comment. To you, a verbal jab is more important than truth.

The Truth? Yeah I might not know what the truth is but I do know what isn't the truth...your BS.

Dude you have proven yourself to be a Zealot , one that's about 180 degrees off kilter. Don't expect anybody with a rational mind to buy your Crap about the Flood as described in the Bible as being verified world wide by other cultures.

 

[rogue1979]

Christian schools teach basic astronomy. You learn how far away stars are, and how fast the speed of light is. Some of my relatives are Seventh Day Adventists, and those religious zealots try to brainwash you into believing the world is only 6000 years old. Now they also teach basic astronomy. So a simple mathematic calculation (they also teach mathematics) tells you how long the light from stars takes to reach earth. This proves by their own teachings the stars are older than 6000 years. Since the sun is a star also, then it is quite logical to assume it is older than 6000 years.....

Hypocrites!

I am no theologian, but I know human nature. I see the modern interpretation of the bible from the Roman Catholic Church, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehova Witnesses, Mormons, Jews and others. They all interpret and corrupt God's word to suit their own purposes. It stands to reason that this has been done since the beginning of the oldest documents. So how can we really know what God's position is on the existence of dinosaurs or the age of the earth. No doubt for me that men have been changing God's words to suit their own needs all this time.

I believe in God and the existence of dinosuars. For me it is certain that he addressed the issue of dinosuars in a satisfactory way, too bad we can't be certain of what that was. In my daily life I use science and the bible to educate and guide me. When the two have a conflict, it is not a problem for me. I use what God gave me, a conscience. Too bad more people in the world can't look deep into their own hearts and souls to make what they know are the right decisions, the world would be a much better place.

 

[bauerbrazil]

People say that nothing in universe can be created by itself, thats why the universe has to have a Creator(God).

Ok I'll buy that. But if everything has to be created, Who created God??? Please, don't tell me that God created by itself, why He can but universe don't? Thats BS.

Anyone heard about zero-point energy? Let me say this, ALWAYS existed something in the universe. Zero-point energy exists in every place of the universe and don't need any kind of force(gravitational, etc) to be generated. From the "absolute vacumm"(its not absolut because of this energy) 2 pairs of paticules are generated, afther they recombine, but the universe is not simetric, and some of this energy is released. This energy causes the Casimir Effect.

This could be the cause of Big Bang and theres no need for a Creator. Hey, zealots. Want to call this energy as God??? Its ok, always was this way, some people when they dont know what are the causes they said God is causing that. Thats a historical fact, we see this in rains, earthquakes, etc. Its the human stupidity.

Lets talk about flood. There was a world flood 12500 years ago, when the last ice age was over and the sea level raised 120 meters. That could be the Noah's Ark history? Probably.

People should view a Discovery Channel's Program about a Anchient Civilization with great knowledge about Astronomy who is supposed to be almost disappeared by this flood. But they legacy is seeing in all other cultures of the word.

A curious fact is that many ancient monuments point to 12500 years ago, including the Piramids, Sphinx, a Cambodja Monument and they are strategic placed forming angles and lines on the globe.

Theres also a submersed monument in Japan coast, which points to the Tropic of Cancer wich was 12500 years ago too, this is really interesting.

Off couse dinosaurs existed, our universe has 12 billions of years, our galaxy, solar system and earth have 5 billions of years. This is a fact, not for fvcking crazy zealots who just believe in a book wroted by men saying that Earth has 6000 years.

Bible is a great historical and moral book, just this.

We dont need to be created or God on our lives, we just need to love and respect nature and all living creatures. We all know that religion caused a lot of conlicts in this world, we don't need it too, religion sucks.

Peace.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Do you belive that Dinosaurs once existed?

Of course I do.

nik

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

First of all, Christians who say that dinosaurs never existed are 1) blind, 2) dumb, and 3) can't read (Bible).

nik

 

[bauerbrazil]

Zero Point Energy

Japan Monument

 

[0roo0roo]

lets see, peeps need water to live. lotsa rivers and sh*t around the world where people tend to live. rivers tend to flood u see. bang! flood legends! there are tons of other legends for all sorts of crud you'd ignore since it doesn't suit your agenda

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
lets see, peeps need water to live. lotsa rivers and sh*t around the world where people tend to live. rivers tend to flood u see. bang! flood legends! there are tons of other legends for all sorts of crud you'd ignore since it doesn't suit your agenda

Or you can get real-world translations of a lot of some of these legends and see that it's not about a single thing flooding, but the entire land known to the people flooding. And, since a lot of these cultures weren't world-wide, there's no way to prove either way that the floods in the legends were either world-wide or region-specific.

nik

 

[0roo0roo]

you'd have to show that all peoples have had a world wide flood legend. unless it wasn't really a world wide flood

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: PastorDon
Of course they talk about floods. They are natural occurence

You are a real piece of work, Red. These are not "creek risin'" myths, these all have to do with Deluges, generally as a result of sin and generally killing almost everyone.

Point is, you know the difference, and yet make the above comment. To you, a verbal jab is more important than truth.

There is a reason that so many experts are pointing to the Dead Sea flood as being the Deluge. The natural conclusion of the commonality of flood myths is that they represent a common historic event.

The flood "myths" I assume you are talking about are all ONE myth. There is no reason to think it's one historic event, when the explanation that it's one myth is simpler and more believable. The flood myth originated with the mesopotamians. It's not exactly a stretch to say that that's where the Greeks and Hebrews got the story.

Edit: And aliens obviously built the pyramids. My holy book tells me so, and it is Truth. It says so on page 34.

 

[THUGSROOK]

not only did dinosaurs exist ~ but they still exist to this day, just much smaller

 

[0roo0roo]

i believe my wisdom teeth exist

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

No dinosaurs, but there were giant people. They built the pyramids.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Hell, I believe that dinosaurs still exist. Well at least their distant cousins.

And with all the bullsh!t flying in here, I am surprised that no one has mentioned that there isn't any evidence that dinosaurs DIDN'T exist. Think about it!

 

[Feebes]

Originally posted by: datalink7
No, they never existed. It would be quite impossible for dinosaurs to exist. After all, the earth is only 6000 years old, and there is no recorded instance of dinosaurs in the Bible. The bones were just put there by the devil to tempt us from the path of God. Do not believe those atheistic scientists. They do the work of the devil.

Believe in the Lord and trust his word (the Bible), and you will see the truth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH.......moron.

 

[anime]

I believe Dinosaurs exist way before even Human Civilization exist.
The bible is created by Alien beings *joke*

 

[RanDum72]

The flood "myths" I assume you are talking about are all ONE myth. There is no reason to think it's one historic event, when the explanation that it's one myth is simpler and more believable. The flood myth originated with the mesopotamians. It's not exactly a stretch to say that that's where the Greeks and Hebrews got the story.

The flood myths may have been psychologically imbedded in our brains by events that actually happened and were passed on by stories and word of mouth. After the end of the last Ice Age, the sea level did rise a few hundred feet and humans were there to witness it. This event was passed on and mixed together with religion and alleged 'history' of certain cultures. Its the same thing with the "Yeti", "Bigfoot" and other creatures in Thailand and Mongolia. Early homo sapiens probably came in contact with other species such as early gorillas and even Neantherdals. This is part of a collective past that come out later on.