Do you carry a weapon?

[JeffreyLebowski]

You were taught to be paranoid and afraid. This entire country is being brainwashed of things to be scared of.

No, the country is being forced to live in a society that must protect itself, because bleeding heart liberals won't let violent criminals be properly taken care of.

Being prepared does not equal being afraid. It means you are ready for something that could happen to you and protecting you and or your families lives.

Or are you saying your are afraid when you ride your motorcycle. I mean, you wear a helmet and leather gloves, and a leather jacket right? You have health insurance, and auto insurance right?

 

[shortylickens]

No, the country is being forced to live in a society that must protect itself, because bleeding heart liberals won't let violent criminals be properly taken care of.

Being prepared does not equal being afraid. It means you are ready for something that could happen to you and protecting you and or your families lives.

Or are you saying your are afraid when you ride your motorcycle. I mean, you wear a helmet and leather gloves, and a leather jacket right? You have health insurance, and auto insurance right?

Abide, dude.

Abide.

 

[nick1985]

No, the country is being forced to live in a society that must protect itself, because bleeding heart liberals won't let violent criminals be properly taken care of.

Being prepared does not equal being afraid. It means you are ready for something that could happen to you and protecting you and or your families lives.

Or are you saying your are afraid when you ride your motorcycle. I mean, you wear a helmet and leather gloves, and a leather jacket right? You have health insurance, and auto insurance right?

Jules is in every thread like this spewing the same shit. It gets real old

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I personally believe it is not a bad idea to carry a weapon though. Take a look at situations like the Discovery channel, and that beer distributor (along with VT, Ft Hood, and many more). Those go to show that no matter where you are a situation where a CCW would be useful might arise. Knowing your surroundings cannot always protect you.

The problem is on a lot of private property from businesses, to schools, to military bases carrying a firearm is illegal.

Doesn't seem to stop people from bringing guns there illegally does it???
All it does is create a target rich environment.

Of all the incidents that have occured, VT, Ft. Hood, Discovery Channel, and other college shootings, all happen in places where the legal carrying of firearms is prohibited or so severely restricted that people can't do it anyways, they happened because people with the ability to stop the attack were not allowed to because of the laws preventing them from carrying a weapon.
The criminals pick these locations because they can cause the most damage with the least risk.
The Utah mall shooting a few years ago was stopped by an off duy officer that happened to have a gun with him. 5 people were killed by the 18 year old shooter, and no telling how many more could have been killed if the off duty cop wasn't there or wasn't carrying a gun.

 

[olds]

I'm 36 and havent come close to anything like that.
I have 4 brothers and sisters (all older), nor have they nor their significant others. Nor have any of their children. Or my aunts or uncles, grandmas or grandpas.

To assume that you will at some point in your life encounter a situation bad enough to warrant the need of a gun, IS being paranoid.

http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/10/20/buying_gun_protect_from_stalker/index.html

"That's when the old Theodore Roosevelt adage popped into my head -- "Speak softly and carry a big stick" -- and I finally got it. I can still be the compassionate, diplomatic, interfaith groovy gal I've always been; I'll just be packing heat in case negotiations tank"

 

[Circlenaut]

Sadly I feel I need to carry sometimes depending on where I'm going.

I was doing tutoring one night a week at a place in a bad part of town, working with grade school kids. A couple months ago one of the other tutors got mugged walking back to his car. Turns out one of the kids being tutored tipped off some gangbangers that the guy had a bad back and couldn't put up a fight, so he'd be a easy target. They beat him down to the ground and took his money, wallet, watch and cell. Grade school kids pointing out easy marks to the gangbangers!

I agree that situational awareness is paramount to avoiding trouble but it's just as important to be able to defend yourself if necessary. The number of home invasions is rising and they are happening in all kinds of neighborhoods. The fact is that many bad guys don't really care about getting caught any more as they only get a slap on the wrist in most cases, so this type of crime will continue to increase.

Sometimes I long for the days when the cops would just beat the crap out of people who committed burglaries and muggings because that really was a deterrent. You got a lot of pain and no free stay in a comfy jail, and you knew if you did it again you'd get beat again. But that's not a realistic way to handle things any more.

Wow, screw those kids. I just avoid bad neighborhoods, suspicious people, nights, or being alone and if all else fails I RUN.

 

[Nebor]

I used to carry a pistol all the time. Ever since I came back from Afghanistan I don't feel as compelled to do so. I guess it's just nice to spend some time in "condition white."

I carry a knife, but I don't consider that a weapon.

 

[TheVrolok]

I carry a concealed firearm, and a knife. The knife is first and foremost a tool, and not a defensive weapon.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Doesn't seem to stop people from bringing guns there illegally does it???
All it does is create a target rich environment.

Of all the incidents that have occured, VT, Ft. Hood, Discovery Channel, and other college shootings, all happen in places where the legal carrying of firearms is prohibited or so severely restricted that people can't do it anyways, they happened because people with the ability to stop the attack were not allowed to because of the laws preventing them from carrying a weapon.
The criminals pick these locations because they can cause the most damage with the least risk.
The Utah mall shooting a few years ago was stopped by an off duy officer that happened to have a gun with him. 5 people were killed by the 18 year old shooter, and no telling how many more could have been killed if the off duty cop wasn't there or wasn't carrying a gun.

Exactly.

If it wasn't such a PITA to carry concealed (being a college student and at work I can't carry to either), I would. About the only place where I can carry would be at my house, or in my car. I fully accept that because of my choice, and the laws regarding carrying, that I could die because of it. I do my best to be aware of my environment, situation, and have tools that could maybe save my life and I can legally carry anywhere.

 

[olds]

I carry a concealed firearm, and a knife. The knife is first and foremost a tool, and not a defensive weapon.

What, you don't open walnuts with the firearm?

 

[InflatableBuddha]

Whores get paid, sluts do it for the fun.

Then slut on, good sir! :awe::biggrin:

 

[Nebor]

Exactly.

If it wasn't such a PITA to carry concealed (being a college student and at work I can't carry to either), I would. About the only place where I can carry would be at my house, or in my car. I fully accept that because of my choice, and the laws regarding carrying, that I could die because of it. I do my best to be aware of my environment, situation, and have tools that could maybe save my life and I can legally carry anywhere.

If you get on as a reserve police officer in pretty much any city or town in your state, most states allow you to carry your firearm in "restricted" areas. That's what I did for grad school.

 

[TheVrolok]

What, you don't open walnuts with the firearm?

Apparently that's frowned upon. Who knew?

 

[69Mach1]

I'm 30, I don't know a single person who would have ever needed the following

1) A first aid kit.
2) A fire extinguisher
3) A fire alarm
4) A carbon monoxide alarm

I'm 47 and have used or needed every one of these, some more than once. I carry a gerber folding knife with a 2 1/2 in blade as a pocket knife, not as a weapon. I don't carry a gun, because there have been several times if I'd had one I'd be in jail for shooting someone who really deserved it. After a certain amount of time you learn to recognize trouble and leave before you get involved. That said, if I didn't have this nasty temper to worry about, I would have a carry permit. That one time you need it would make it worth the rest of the times you didn't.

 

[mk]

Nope. Never felt a need.

 

[Matthiasa]

Internet tough guys sigh.

Until some 90 lb crack head 17 year old puts a 9mm hole through your aorta for the $20 in your wallet.

I m 6'3" 220, have black belts and Im a formidable fighter, especially owing to my mind over matter mental conditioning. I still carry an HK .40. None of the above means squat when your body is physically disabled and unable to function mechanically by someone half your size with no regard for another person's life, liberty, and property.

Because your gun matters when they pull theirs on you first...

 

[JulesMaximus]

No, the country is being forced to live in a society that must protect itself, because bleeding heart liberals won't let violent criminals be properly taken care of.

Being prepared does not equal being afraid. It means you are ready for something that could happen to you and protecting you and or your families lives.

Or are you saying your are afraid when you ride your motorcycle. I mean, you wear a helmet and leather gloves, and a leather jacket right? You have health insurance, and auto insurance right?

I suppose those guys who get dressed up in camo and go do military type exercises and plan for "the revolution" aren't paranoid.

Just because I don't want to walk around armed all the time don't slap a label on me.

I think you're all a bit paranoid. My .02

 

[shortylickens]

I suppose those guys who get dressed up in camo and go do military type exercises and plan for "the revolution" aren't paranoid.

Just because I don't want to walk around armed all the time don't slap a label on me.

I think you're all a bit paranoid. My .02

Pot, kettle, we are one.

 

[Nebor]

Because your gun matters when they pull theirs on you first...

Go to a good private defensive pistol course or one put on by your local police department. You'll learn that someone who knows they're going to shoot can draw their weapon and shoot faster than someone with a gun trained on them can react and pull the trigger. I didn't believe it until I saw it played out with simunitions repeatedly.

 

[KeithTalent]

The thought of shorty walking around packing heat kind of frightens me. :|

KT

 

[JulesMaximus]

The thought of shorty walking around packing heat kind of frightens me. :|

KT

:thumbsup: No kidding.

 

[shortylickens]

The thought of shorty walking around packing heat kind of frightens me. :|

KT

Good.

That keeps you from fucking around.

I currently live in Virginia, grew up in Minnesota and have been all over the world and much of the U.S. Believe me when I tell you people are LOT more fucking respectful in places where a sizable portion of the adult male population is licensed to carry.
The notion we should all get along and everybody's basically good inside is utter complete crap. Human beings are inherently selfish (part of the survival instinct) and unless they were raised properly by loving yet firm parents, theres a pretty good chance they are assholes and possibly dangerous if they never learned respect for human life.
Guns acknowledge the imperfections of the world. They dont make the world a bad place. They are inanimate objects.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

I suppose those guys who get dressed up in camo and go do military type exercises and plan for "the revolution" aren't paranoid.

Just because I don't want to walk around armed all the time don't slap a label on me.

I think you're all a bit paranoid. My .02

Maybe these guys actually live in legitimate shithole cities where they are at risk of being mugged or shot at? I don't feel unsafe where I live, nor anywhere else I've been in Canada or Europe.

Even in the sketchier places, I've never felt that I'd be much better off if I was carrying.

 

[boomhower]

Firearm 24/7. I don't know when I am going to meet one of my customers off-duty.

 

[boomhower]

If you get on as a reserve police officer in pretty much any city or town in your state, most states allow you to carry your firearm in "restricted" areas. That's what I did for grad school.

If your a sworn officer you can carry damn near anywhere, look up LEOSA. You have a lot more leeway than under CCW rules.