Do you consider this to be racism/hate speech

UglyCasanova

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They 100% should be free to publish whatever the hell they want, to me it just seems like 2018 approvable racism. Replace "white" with anything else. Why is it always a black guy. Hispanic men must be stopped. How to talk about Jewish people.
 

Greenman

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Racism implies a sense of inferiority. I don't see that here.
That's an astute observation, wish I'd made it. But after that thought, the next question is "whats the point?". The headlines read like Bloomberg for black people.
 

HomerJS

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I have no idea. Have not read the stories associated with these alleged headlines
 

pmv

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Mostly it seems to be more intelligent observations than the OP usually posts (which is not to say I necessarily agree with every detail of it).

(Also - does the one pointing out that 'white trash' is a term redolent of a class-divided society as much as a racially-messed-up one, really fit the OP's agenda? Did he even read it before posting it?)
 

UglyCasanova

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Mostly it seems to be more intelligent observations than the OP usually posts (which is not to say I necessarily agree with every detail of it).

(Also - does the one pointing out that 'white trash' is a term redolent of a class-divided society as much as a racially-messed-up one, really fit the OP's agenda? Did he even read it before posting it?)

OP's a friggin idiot.
 

Amused

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No. Pointing out your racism is not an act of racism. Pointing out institutionalized racism is not racism. Expressing frustration and resentment at the oppressive race is not racism.

Racism is not merely racial prejudice. It is racial prejudice based on the belief of inherent racial superiority.

The alt-right is desperate to paint any complaint about racism as racism. It's so blatantly obvious to an objective observer. Yet to you and your programming, those headlines appear racist.

How dare those uppity colored folks talk about white people like that! Amirite?

Stop listening to your echo chamber.
 

Commodus

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I'm sure you knew I'd answer this way, but: no.

I won't rehash Amused's argument, although I think it's a frequent conservative mindset at work, not an alt-right one. I've noticed that the modern American right tends to act as if you can solve racism by pretending it doesn't exist, by downplaying the threat posed by racist groups or by refusing to criticize systemic racism. It's that mentality where they'll pay lip service to MLK but whine about black NFL players kneeling or push that "all lives matter" crap.
 
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UglyCasanova

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I'm sure you knew I'd answer this way, but: no.

I won't rehash Amused's argument, although I think it's a frequent conservative mindset at work, not an alt-right one. I've noticed that the modern American right tends to act as if you can solve racism by pretending it doesn't exist, by downplaying the threat posed by racist groups or by refusing to criticize systemic racism. It's that mentality where they'll pay lip service to MLK but whine about black NFL players kneeling or push that "all lives matter" crap.


Or this. Louis Farrakhan's sermon yesterday. He was given the keys the a city down here in Louisiana. Let’s not pretend this doesn’t exist.


https://mobile.twitter.com/TheFinal...utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter
The White man is a new man. Everywhere he went on this earth, he found human beings of color. Where did he come from?
Why should there be an end to him (White man)? Because his nature is not in harmony with the nature of God.
White man was only given 6,000 years (6 days) to rule. You cannot deny he has ruled but on what principle did he rule? Righteousness? Truth? Justice? Fairness? I don't think so.
Murder is in his (the White man's)nature.
He (the White man) is a natural liar. He can't help himself
Do you know where homosexuality began? Where's Sodom and Gomorrah?
We're the original people. Homosexuality didn't start with us. We didn't know anything about it.
In the Talmud they admitted to the rape of young boys under 9 years old.
White policemen in the Black community have their way with our women. And some of us offer our women to them.
Black people: When that policeman pulls you over he has the heart to kill you.
Black People: God wants you to separate from your enemy
 

ch33zw1z

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Lol...you really got a hard on for Farrakhan this weekend.

Given the keys to a city twice in LA. Shit man, it's LA...if it was NYC giving him the keys, you might get some people to care. People should definitely not vote for the mayor of that city, and hes was subsequently chastised publicly for doing this.

LA has bigger fish to fry.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2018/05/louisiana_posts_worst_economic.html

WRT OP: headlines are meant to grab attention. Just like when I read Breitbart articles, I need to read the actual article to see what it says. The answer to your question: No the articles are not racist.
 

UglyCasanova

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Lol...you really got a hard on for Farrakhan this weekend.

Given the keys to a city twice in LA. Shit man, it's LA...if it was NYC giving him the keys, you might get some people to care. People should definitely not vote for the mayor of that city, and hes was subsequently chastised publicly for doing this.

LA has bigger fish to fry.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2018/05/louisiana_posts_worst_economic.html

WRT OP: headlines are meant to grab attention. Just like when I read Breitbart articles, I need to read the actual article to see what it says. The answer to your question: No the articles are not racist.


I think it was you in the other thread kept going on about diversion and changing he topic. What does Louisiana’s financial situation have to do with this lol.
 

ch33zw1z

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I think it was you in the other thread kept going on about diversion and changing he topic. What does Louisiana’s financial situation have to do with this lol.

I responded to your OP also, don't like the answer?

Focused on someone who holds no political sway, given the key by some butt kisser, in a city, in a state, that's a net negative to our country, even while controlling the mouth of the Mississippi River, the financial implications, I reckon, would be on the top of your outrage list.

Besides, you diverted in your own topic lol....from salon articles back to Farrakhan. Are you still having trouble finding articles where NOI held tiki torch marches and chanting Nazi slogans from WW2?
 

Amused

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In another thread you kept asking for overt acts of racism as if that proved racism to be rare.

But racism is far more insidious. It's everyone claiming not to be racist while blacks get hired 36% less when all qualifications are equal. It's a justice system the stops, harrasses, arrests and convicts blacks at far higher rates and with far stiffer sentences when all other factors are equal.

Asking for the obvious when the problem is not is a deflection. It, along with this thread is an attempt to deny the problem exists, to reverse blame.

To many white people, it seems admitting the real stare of racism in America somehow diminishes them.

It doesn't.
 
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Commodus

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Or this. Louis Farrakhan's sermon yesterday. He was given the keys the a city down here in Louisiana. Let’s not pretend this doesn’t exist.


https://mobile.twitter.com/TheFinal...utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter
The White man is a new man. Everywhere he went on this earth, he found human beings of color. Where did he come from?
Why should there be an end to him (White man)? Because his nature is not in harmony with the nature of God.
White man was only given 6,000 years (6 days) to rule. You cannot deny he has ruled but on what principle did he rule? Righteousness? Truth? Justice? Fairness? I don't think so.
Murder is in his (the White man's)nature.
He (the White man) is a natural liar. He can't help himself
Do you know where homosexuality began? Where's Sodom and Gomorrah?
We're the original people. Homosexuality didn't start with us. We didn't know anything about it.
In the Talmud they admitted to the rape of young boys under 9 years old.
White policemen in the Black community have their way with our women. And some of us offer our women to them.
Black people: When that policeman pulls you over he has the heart to kill you.
Black People: God wants you to separate from your enemy

Please don't try to divert. Farrakhan is an ignorant asshole and we should tackle his problematic claims, but you started this thread implying that Salon was somehow being racist for pointing out white racism.

Also, please don't cite or read Daily Caller ever again (I saw where that Twitter referal link came from, you know). Why would you read a hyper-partisan site that actively lies to you?
 

Amused

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Replace white in those headlines with anything else.

The reality of the situation is whites have been the controlling, oppressive race historically.

You cannot change the race in those headlines and be equal because of reality.

Why not try to read those headlines as coming from an oppressed group suffering from institutionalized racism to the oppressive group rather than race. Then reverse it and see how irrational your thought process is. You want all things to be equal. They are not. Blacks are systemically oppressed.
 

Atreus21

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They 100% should be free to publish whatever the hell they want, to me it just seems like 2018 approvable racism. Replace "white" with anything else. Why is it always a black guy. Hispanic men must be stopped. How to talk about Jewish people.

Quite so. Racism means prejudice based on skin color. You either allow that standard to cut both ways or you're just fine with double standards and hypocrisy.
 

HomerJS

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Or this. Louis Farrakhan's sermon yesterday. He was given the keys the a city down here in Louisiana. Let’s not pretend this doesn’t exist.


https://mobile.twitter.com/TheFinal...utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter
The White man is a new man. Everywhere he went on this earth, he found human beings of color. Where did he come from?
Why should there be an end to him (White man)? Because his nature is not in harmony with the nature of God.
White man was only given 6,000 years (6 days) to rule. You cannot deny he has ruled but on what principle did he rule? Righteousness? Truth? Justice? Fairness? I don't think so.
Murder is in his (the White man's)nature.
He (the White man) is a natural liar. He can't help himself
Do you know where homosexuality began? Where's Sodom and Gomorrah?
We're the original people. Homosexuality didn't start with us. We didn't know anything about it.
In the Talmud they admitted to the rape of young boys under 9 years old.
White policemen in the Black community have their way with our women. And some of us offer our women to them.
Black people: When that policeman pulls you over he has the heart to kill you.
Black People: God wants you to separate from your enemy
If Obama had given him a job as chief advisor in the White House more would have shared your paranoia.

However we did get the white version of that scenario with Trump. You need to try harder.
 
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