Do you consider this to be racism/hate speech

[UglyCasanova]

How enormously stupid.

How so

 

[jackstar7]

How so

It's been pointed out repeatedly. You won't acknowledge it. You won't own it. You won't take the opportunity to grow.

 

[MrSquished]

I think @UglyCasanova is being earnest, just very naive.

 

[sao123]

I'm going to repost this because apparently it was overlooked and people keep making the same failed arguments.

And to end this fucking nonsense once and for all:

There is no such thing as reverse racism. Frustration and resentment is not racism.

Were this a class war, you would most certainly not call the underclasses "classist" or "elitist" for resenting and being frustrated with the upper classes.

Are the untouchables in India "classist?"

So why do you do so with race? To excuse your own feelings. To accuse those who are angry with whites as a group for years of oppression of the very thing you've done to them all along.

Calling the oppressed group "classist," "sexist," or "racist" is merely projection and a convenient form of denial. An excuse to continue the very behavior that got us here.

for the second time i nthis thread, you have peddled this bullshit, and the for the second time, you are DEAD ASS WRONG.

Racism isnt some implied nebulus tendency principal of which all white people are responsible for and all black people are the receiver for. Racism requires a very specific intentional hostile action between 2 specific parties, where 1 wrongs the other because of his race. The vast majority of blacks have never experienced a physical specific tangible act of racism. The vast majority of whites have never committed a hostile act against a black person. Racism cant exist unless racist people do.

If you resent some or all white people for what some OTHER white person has done to you, thats racist. If you resent some or all white because of what some other white did to some other black, you are perpetuating racism. Demanding reparations for what some white person did to some other black person in the past whom is not you... is racism.

 

[fskimospy]

for the second time i nthis thread, you have peddled this bullshit, and the for the second time, you are DEAD ASS WRONG.

Racism isnt some implied nebulus tendency principal of which all white people are responsible for and all black people are the receiver for. Racism requires a very specific intentional hostile action between 2 specific parties, where 1 wrongs the other because of his race. The vast majority of blacks have never experienced a physical specific tangible act of racism. The vast majority of whites have never committed a hostile act against a black person. Racism cant exist unless racist people do.

If you resent some or all white people for what some OTHER white person has done to you, thats racist. If you resent some or all white because of what some other white did to some other black, you are perpetuating racism. Demanding reparations for what some white person did to some other black person in the past whom is not you... is racism.

Can you tell me what on earth you are basing the claim that the vast majority of black people have never experienced a tangible act of racism? From the people I know that seems ludicrously wrong.

 

[Amused]

for the second time i nthis thread, you have peddled this bullshit, and the for the second time, you are DEAD ASS WRONG.

Racism isnt some implied nebulus tendency principal of which all white people are responsible for and all black people are the receiver for. Racism requires a very specific intentional hostile action between 2 specific parties, where 1 wrongs the other because of his race. The vast majority of blacks have never experienced a physical specific tangible act of racism. The vast majority of whites have never committed a hostile act against a black person. Racism cant exist unless racist people do.

If you resent some or all white people for what some OTHER white person has done to you, thats racist. If you resent some or all white because of what some other white did to some other black, you are perpetuating racism. Demanding reparations for what some white person did to some other black person in the past whom is not you... is racism.

I'm sorry reality and the english language does not line up with your own personal biases.


rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun

1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Just like classism, racism cannot exist from the oppressed party.

The only bullshit here is your refusal to accept the definition of racism.

By your logic, resentment among the untouchables in India is "Classism" Even though their feelings are the exact opposite of that word.

Nope, sorry but just no. Without a belief in one's own racial superiority, racial prejudice does not cross the line into racism.

Oh, and the real bullshit here is you thinking to speak for the majority of black people's experiences. Just wow.

This poll asked people if they had been treated unfairly in a restaurant based on their race in the past month:

Past month.

Tell us more about the experiences of the majority of black people.

Please.

 

[sao123]

I'm sorry reality and the english language does not line up with your own personal biases.


rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun

1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Just like classism, racism cannot exist from the oppressed party.

The only bullshit here is your refusal to accept the definition of racism.

By your logic, resentment among the untouchables in India is "Classism" Even though their feelings are the exact opposite of that word.

Nope, sorry but just no. Without a belief in one's own racial superiority, racial prejudice does not cross the line into racism.

Oh, and the real bullshit here is you thinking to speak for the majority of black people's experiences. Just wow.

This poll asked people if they had been treated unfairly in a restaurant based on their race in the past month:

Past month.

Tell us more about the experiences of the majority of black people.

Please.

Well who died and made your Dictionary God?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

racism
noun rac·ism \ ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi- \
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles: a political or social system founded on racism
3: racial prejudice or discrimination


The History and Dictionary Meaning of racism
Racism appears to be a word of recent origin, with no citations currently known that would suggest the word was in use prior to the early 20th century. But the fact that the word is fairly new does not prove that the concept of racism did not exist in the distant past. Things may have words to describe them before they exist (spaceship, for instance, has been in use since the 19th century, well before the rocket-fired vessels were invented), and things may exist for a considerable time before they are given names (t-shirt does not appear in print until the 20th century, although the article of clothing existed prior to 1900).

Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like racism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing.



Definition of prejudice
1: injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
2a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion
(2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge
: an instance of such judgment or opinion: an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics
—
prejudice
noun prej·u·dice \ ˈpre-jə-dəs \

Definition of discrimination
1a : prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment - racial discrimination
: the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually
2: the quality or power of finely distinguishing - the film viewed by those with discrimination
3a : the act of making or perceiving a difference : the act of discriminating - a bloodhound's scent discrimination
: the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently
—
discriminational
play \-shnəl, -shə-nᵊl\ adjective

 

[Amused]

Wow. All that to completely fail to change the definition of racism.

Nice.

Fucking idiot. So fixated on labeling the victims of generational, institutionalized systemic racism as racist so you can justify your own bias.

 

[sao123]

Wow. All that to completely fail to change the definition of racism.

Nice.

Fucking idiot. So fixated on labeling the victims of generational, institutionalized systemic racism as racist so you can justify your own bias.

If you cant see how resentment out of jealousy becomes racism the same way as resentment out of superiority complex is racism, then you are part of them problem, not the solution.

The only solution to racism is 100% pure racial blindness.

 

[brycejones]

for the second time i nthis thread, you have peddled this bullshit, and the for the second time, you are DEAD ASS WRONG.

Racism isnt some implied nebulus tendency principal of which all white people are responsible for and all black people are the receiver for. Racism requires a very specific intentional hostile action between 2 specific parties, where 1 wrongs the other because of his race. The vast majority of blacks have never experienced a physical specific tangible act of racism. The vast majority of whites have never committed a hostile act against a black person. Racism cant exist unless racist people do.

If you resent some or all white people for what some OTHER white person has done to you, thats racist. If you resent some or all white because of what some other white did to some other black, you are perpetuating racism. Demanding reparations for what some white person did to some other black person in the past whom is not you... is racism.

Sure thing! We'll hold your beer!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I can start one of why black people recieve much harsher sentencing than white people for similar crimes if you’d like me to. Or the drug war and how we treat different drug crimes differently depending on who uses it. Or why the black community is policed much more heavily than the white community.


Like I’ve said before the “concern” response is a sign of someone who has nothing to say. No input into the conversation or more than likely they don’t want to agree with someone for partisan reasons, so the default response regurgitated is “concern”.

lol.. no
your concern trolling is patently transparent, and not worthy of a reasonable discussion or dialogue. Your posting history belies your façade

 

[Paratus]

for the second time i nthis thread, you have peddled this bullshit, and the for the second time, you are DEAD ASS WRONG.

Racism isnt some implied nebulus tendency principal of which all white people are responsible for and all black people are the receiver for. Racism requires a very specific intentional hostile action between 2 specific parties, where 1 wrongs the other because of his race. The vast majority of blacks have never experienced a physical specific tangible act of racism. The vast majority of whites have never committed a hostile act against a black person. Racism cant exist unless racist people do.

If you resent some or all white people for what some OTHER white person has done to you, thats racist. If you resent some or all white because of what some other white did to some other black, you are perpetuating racism. Demanding reparations for what some white person did to some other black person in the past whom is not you... is racism.

You may find this surprising but the entities that fostered or allowed most of the racist policies was the local, state and federal governments who were supposed to treat all people as equal under the law.

For blacks, government screwed them over to varying degrees

• During slavery
• During reconstruction
• During Jim Crow
• During the fight for civil rights
• Even up to now (un equal policing, sentencing, etc)

While the white people who did many of these things are dead or no longer in power the organizations they represented are. The aforementioned local, state and federal governments who failed to live up to ‘equal under the law’.

Now you may find this surprising but in this country we are allowed to ‘petition the government for redress of grievances’. It’s one of the reasons we no longer have a king and a reason why liberals still don’t want a king.

Now I don’t know what the appropriate redress is for the citizens affected by the governmenta racists policies but I do know the first step is to have the government stop formenting racist policies .

 

[brycejones]

lol.. no
your concern trolling is patently transparent, and not worthy of a reasonable discussion or dialogue. Your posting history belies your façade

Uglygoatboy is very concerned about all those things but he feels a compunction to be the defender of white people because they are victims too. So down trodden.

 

[pauldun170]

Has anyone found where this image originated?
Seems to be very popular on the right wing idiot sites.
Wonder how OP came across this image?

 

[jackstar7]

Has anyone found where this image originated?
Seems to be very popular on the right wing idiot sites.
Wonder how OP came across this image?

I'll assume his dad sent him a FW:FW:fw:FW:fw:fw:fw:

 

[Atreus21]

No.

Racism is racial prejudice BASED ON THE BELIEF OF INHERENT RACIAL SUPERIORITY.

So you don't think the headline "White men must be stopped" is alleging something inherently deficient in white people?

Will you answer?

 

[jackstar7]

Will you answer?

I can answer. No, it is not.

EDIT: And if you think so, you are stupid and probably desperate to be a victim. Which aligns nicely with your desire to oppress women while also crying victim over your religious beliefs.

Blessed be the word.

 

[1sikbITCH]

If you cant see how resentment out of jealousy becomes racism the same way as resentment out of superiority complex is racism, then you are part of them problem, not the solution.

The only solution to racism is 100% pure racial blindness.[/QUOTE]

So you are saying black people are jealous of your whiteness...?

 

[Atreus21]

I can answer. No, it is not.

EDIT: And if you think so, you are stupid and probably desperate to be a victim. Which aligns nicely with your desire to oppress women while also crying victim over your religious beliefs.

Blessed be the word.

Can a non-jackass answer? Preferably Amused?

 

[brycejones]

Can a non-jackass answer? Preferably Amused?

Think really hard about the headline what other context could it have?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Will you answer?

The headline "white men must be stopped" is not a rascist statement in and of itself. I'd have to read the article for context.

 

[Atreus21]

The headline "white men must be stopped" is not a rascist statement in and of itself. I'd have to read the article for context.

You don't think such a headline alleges a problem inherent to white men, such that they "must be stopped"?

 

[ch33zw1z]

You don't think such a headline alleges a problem inherent to white men, such that they "must be stopped"?

I said earlier in the thread, head lines are intended to grab attention, apparently it's working. I still read articles to see context before I pass my own judgement. Even at sites like Breitbart and Fox news.

 

[sao123]

You may find this surprising but the entities that fostered or allowed most of the racist policies was the local, state and federal governments who were supposed to treat all people as equal under the law.

For blacks, government screwed them over to varying degrees

• During slavery
• During reconstruction
• During Jim Crow
• During the fight for civil rights
• Even up to now (un equal policing, sentencing, etc)

While the white people who did many of these things are dead or no longer in power the organizations they represented are. The aforementioned local, state and federal governments who failed to live up to ‘equal under the law’.

Now you may find this surprising but in this country we are allowed to ‘petition the government for redress of grievances’. It’s one of the reasons we no longer have a king and a reason why liberals still don’t want a king.

Now I don’t know what the appropriate redress is for the citizens affected by the governmenta racists policies but I do know the first step is to have the government stop formenting racist policies .

You're talking about systematic inequality.
Racism and Systematic Inequality which resulted because of racism are fundamentally 2 different problems which require 2 different solutions.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I can answer. No, it is not.

EDIT: And if you think so, you are stupid and probably desperate to be a victim. Which aligns nicely with your desire to oppress women while also crying victim over your religious beliefs.

Blessed be the word.

I’ve only blocked one other person on here (neuman something) because they never, ever once contributed anything to a thread other than trolling and childish name calling. You seem to be the same though, relentless never ending name calling, vulgar language, and not contributing anything to any thread I’ve seen you ever post in.

I’d be curious to see if you could provide a link to any post you’ve made in the last month that had any real substance to it? Can you?