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UglyCasanova

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I cannot think of any plausible set of conditions where anti-white racism is even within an order of magnitude as harmful to the average white person as anti-black racism is to the average black person no matter how you choose to operationalize it.


We won’t know the effects for a while. Setting back a generation of hard fought race relations and normalizing the behavior of judging people by skin color again will have profound consequences for everyone
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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I’ve only blocked one other person on here (neuman something) because they never, ever once contributed anything to a thread other than trolling and childish name calling. You seem to be the same though, relentless never ending name calling, vulgar language, and not contributing anything to any thread I’ve seen you ever post in.

I’d be curious to see if you could provide a link to any post you’ve made in the last month that had any real substance to it? Can you?
Oh no! YOU HAVE A LIST?!

As I said earlier to you, I bring to the conversation what you bring to the conversation. You up your game, and I will easily meet you at that better level of discourse. You continue to remain willfully obtuse and trollish, well, I guess you gotta block me, dude, because you're not bringing discourse worthy of more than you get from me.

Also, to be blocked by both you and DSF would serve as a badge of honor.
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
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Oh no! YOU HAVE A LIST?!

As I said earlier to you, I bring to the conversation what you bring to the conversation. You up your game, and I will easily meet you at that better level of discourse. You continue to remain willfully obtuse and trollish, well, I guess you gotta block me, dude, because you're not bringing discourse worthy of more than you get from me.

Also, to be blocked by both you and DSF would serve as a badge of honor.

At some point I’d hope other members would stop giving time to ‘So Very Concerned’ and his ongoing troll roll.
 

fskimospy

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We won’t know the effects for a while. Setting back a generation of hard fought race relations and normalizing the behavior of judging people by skin color again will have profound consequences for everyone

It is frankly unbelievable to me that you think minorities engaging in the same behavior that whites never stopped engaging in is somehow setting back a generation of hard fought race relations. Total blindness.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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Oh no! YOU HAVE A LIST?!

As I said earlier to you, I bring to the conversation what you bring to the conversation. You up your game, and I will easily meet you at that better level of discourse. You continue to remain willfully obtuse and trollish, well, I guess you gotta block me, dude, because you're not bringing discourse worthy of more than you get from me.

Also, to be blocked by both you and DSF would serve as a badge of honor.


Cool bye, you provide no value to this place. Excessive swearing and name calling with little to no actual content. That’s a poison to a forum.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
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It is frankly unbelievable to me that you think minorities engaging in the same behavior that whites never stopped engaging in is somehow setting back a generation of hard fought race relations. Total blindness.


Whites have stopped engaging in them though. Racism still exists, systemic racism is certainly a thing that needs to be addressed, but this whole mentality of its cool to bash whitey is something that whites frankly moved past. Not only was it not cool just to out and out bash blacks for simply being black but it’s become completely culturally taboo and shunned, thus you don’t ever see it. Look at what Rosanne is going through (and rightfully so). That same taboo needs to exist for all racism. I don’t know how open racism got to be the cool thing to do but damned if it did and it threatens to undermine hard fought battles.
 

sao123

Lifer
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Equally, I observe that you are delusional.

I would also observe that 'meritocracy' is a term that was never intended to describe something desirable. The word itself was coined to describe a problem.

It may have been invented to describe something undesirable, but In this case, I'd say you are wrong. Trumps followers appear to desire to bring about a meritocracy under some form of benevolent social darwinism to end the abuse and overreach of social safety nets which has been in danger of collapsing our very socio-economic system for the last 2 decades.

At the lowest common denominator, a meritocracy is a benevolent economic system in which there is healthy competition for everything. It is the only economic philosophy which keeps all the members of society engaged and competing and producing, and discourages those whom would be a net negative (economical leaches) from doing so.

Unless you view employment a slavery... which i don't... its something every person should aspire to do in order to contribute to society in a meaningful way.


So you’ve worked 2/3/4 jobs to earn your way out of poverty? Why was that necessary in your case?

My father had a salary of 18,000 per year. My mother worked a minimum wage job at a local bank.

They could not afford to buy me or my brother a car or pay for college...so, i lived at home and worked 2 jobs for several years until i was able to financially stable . i had to pay my own car, college tuition, room and board.
 

fskimospy

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Whites have stopped engaging in them though. Racism still exists, systemic racism is certainly a thing that needs to be addressed, but this whole mentality of its cool to bash whitey is something that whites frankly moved past. Not only was it not cool just to out and out bash blacks for simply being black but it’s become completely culturally taboo and shunned, thus you don’t ever see it. Look at what Rosanne is going through (and rightfully so). That same taboo needs to exist for all racism. I don’t know how open racism got to be the cool thing to do but damned if it did and it threatens to undermine hard fought battles.

Are you fucking kidding me. White people have never for one second stopped bashing black people simply for being black. I have simply lost count of how many articles I've seen criticizing black culture or holding black people collectively responsible for various perceived failings. Racism is not the cool thing to do and if you actually went and read the articles whose titles you posted you would see that the vast majority could not reasonably be considered racist at all.

This is what I'm talking about, some white people are so blind to what they have been doing their whole lives they don't even recognize it when similar things come back towards them. You appear to think that white people lecturing black people about the inherent deficiencies in their culture is fine but black people lecturing whites about the deficiencies in their culture is 'open racism'.

I have to say this is some of the most shocking and saddening statements I've seen about racism in a long time as you appear to have convinced yourselves that white people have for the most part solved racism and the real problem is people being racist against whites. It is not.
 
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Amused

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Seems like the OP is always try to normalize his own racism by pointing out other peoples' racism, as if 2 wrongs made a right. It just doesn't work that way..

Even if he has to make up the other people's racism.

This whole thread is a failed backfire.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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My father had a salary of 18,000 per year. My mother worked a minimum wage job at a local bank.

They could not afford to buy me or my brother a car or pay for college...so, i lived at home and worked 2 jobs for several years until i was able to financially stable . i had to pay my own car, college tuition, room and board.
This is good solipsism here. Very fresh. *sniff* Take it in.
 

Juiblex

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Some of it is racism. Such as the headline;

"White men must be stopped. The future of mankind depends on it."

That is the most racist thing I've seen all week.

Just because it has white in the title doesn't make it non-racist. I don't care what liberals, the TV, or anybody else says about it. Singling out white men as a "problem" for just existing and breathing is racism plain and simple, not to mention sexist.
 

fskimospy

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Some of it is racism. Such as the headline;

"White men must be stopped. The future of mankind depends on it."

That is the most racist thing I've seen all week.

Just because it has white in the title doesn't make it non-racist. I don't care what liberals, the TV, or anybody else says about it. Singling out white men as a "problem" for just existing and breathing is racism plain and simple, not to mention sexist.

Did you read the article?
 

dyna

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Ten years ago, those headlines were probably not racist but by todays standards they are. We have genderless bathrooms now. We are becoming a society where anything that calls out a particular color or gender is offensive and not tolerated. The only exception(which can be confusing) is that if you are a person calling out your own color. I'm not sure you can be racist against your own color. You can be of really bad taste/politically incorrect but not racist.
 

dyna

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I'm going to repost this because apparently it was overlooked and people keep making the same failed arguments.

And to end this fucking nonsense once and for all:

There is no such thing as reverse racism. Frustration and resentment is not racism.

Were this a class war, you would most certainly not call the underclasses "classist" or "elitist" for resenting and being frustrated with the upper classes.

Are the untouchables in India "classist?"

So why do you do so with race? To excuse your own feelings. To accuse those who are angry with whites as a group for years of oppression of the very thing you've done to them all along.

Calling the oppressed group "classist," "sexist," or "racist" is merely projection and a convenient form of denial. An excuse to continue the very behavior that got us here.

Do you think that non-white people can be racist in the US? If they can, then I would say that falls under the definition of reverse racism. If you perceive that the only the majority can be racist as they are the prominent race in that region, then I suppose your right, it doesn't exist.
 
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Vic

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Do you think that non-white people can be racist in the US? If they can, then I would say that falls under the definition of reverse racism. If you perceive that the only the majority can be racist as they are the prominent race in that region, then I suppose your right, it doesn't exist.
Anyone can be racist, but what is the actual likelihood that a minority group can be politically capable of inflicting racially-motivated harm against the majority group?
It is not reasonable to perceive the powerless to be as serious a threat as the powerful simply because they share the same evils.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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And YOU are the antidote? Fuck off with that nonsense! Derp Savage...
A finer pair of heads up asses I've rarely seen.

Which head is up which ass you may well wonder, but it matters not one jot.

If only we could power our cities with their condescension and faux concern.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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Some of it is racism. Such as the headline;

"White men must be stopped. The future of mankind depends on it."

That is the most racist thing I've seen all week.

Just because it has white in the title doesn't make it non-racist. I don't care what liberals, the TV, or anybody else says about it. Singling out white men as a "problem" for just existing and breathing is racism plain and simple, not to mention sexist.
U dum.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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Do you think that non-white people can be racist in the US? If they can, then I would say that falls under the definition of reverse racism. If you perceive that the only the majority can be racist as they are the prominent race in that region, then I suppose your right, it doesn't exist.
HELP! We got another victim over here!
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Do you think that non-white people can be racist in the US? If they can, then I would say that falls under the definition of reverse racism. If you perceive that the only the majority can be racist as they are the prominent race in that region, then I suppose your right, it doesn't exist.

Name one non-white movement, group, etc in the US that believes in racial superiority over whites.

Now, I have seen asians be racist against blacks. Hispanics and blacks racist against each other, but I have never seen a racial minority in the US declare an inherent, genetic superiority over whites. It's rather difficult, nay, impossible to declare, maintain, claim superiority over the ruling class who is currently oppressing you.

Again, racially charged frustration and anger is not racism. No more than the untouchables resenting/resisting/protesting the upper castes in India would be called "classist."
 
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UglyCasanova

Lifer
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Do you think that non-white people can be racist in the US? If they can, then I would say that falls under the definition of reverse racism. If you perceive that the only the majority can be racist as they are the prominent race in that region, then I suppose your right, it doesn't exist.


Not reverse racism. Simply racism. Nothing is reverse about it. It’s just...racism.
 
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