Do you consider this to be racism/hate speech

[UglyCasanova]

Name one non-white movement, group, etc in the US that believes in racial superiority over whites.

Now, I have seen asians be racist against blacks. Hispanics and blacks racist against each other, but I have never seen a racial minority in the US declare an inherent, genetic superiority over whites. It's rather difficult, nay, impossible to declare, maintain, claim superiority over the ruling class who is currently oppressing you.

Again, racially charged frustration and anger is not racism. No more than the untouchables resenting/resisting/protesting the upper castes in India would be called "classist."

I’ve already posted one, the Nation of Islam.

Edit: I don’t know if they believe a genetic superiority or not but that seems like an irrelevant qualifier

 

[Amused]

I’ve already posted one, the Nation of Islam.

Edit: I don’t know if they believe a genetic superiority or not but that seems like an irrelevant qualifier

Taking into account it is the primary qualifier for racism, no.

Nation of Islam is angry, hateful and resentful. They are little different than the protest groups in India who oppose the upper castes. And yet no one thinks to call the untouchables "classist."

I know it makes you feel better to blame the victims of racism of racism. But realize it's nothing more than a tu quoque logical fallacy.

By your logic, the rape victim who speaks out against toxic masculinity is sexist. Nope. Logical fallacy.

By your logic the lower caste citizen who speaks out against his treatment by the upper caste is "classist." Nope. Logical fallacy.

So just stop accusing your victims of your issues.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Taking into account it is the primary qualifier for racism, no.

Ok

 

[Vic]

Not reverse racism. Simply racism. Nothing is reverse about it. It’s just...racism.

Agreed. So why aren't you desperately apologizing for this racism like you are for Roseanne's racism? Concerned minds want to know.

 

[dyna]

Name one non-white movement, group, etc in the US that believes in racial superiority over whites.

Now, I have seen asians be racist against blacks. Hispanics and blacks racist against each other, but I have never seen a racial minority in the US declare an inherent, genetic superiority over whites. It's rather difficult, nay, impossible to declare, maintain, claim superiority over the ruling class who is currently oppressing you.

Again, racially charged frustration and anger is not racism. No more than the untouchables resenting/resisting/protesting the upper castes in India would be called "classist."

I think your wrong about "racially charged frustration and anger" not being racism. People get crucified as racists for words and actions everyday for exactly that.

 

[sao123]

Taking into account it is the primary qualifier for racism, no.

Nation of Islam is angry, hateful and resentful. They are little different than the protest groups in India who oppose the upper castes. And yet no one thinks to call the untouchables "classist."

I know it makes you feel better to blame the victims of racism of racism. But realize it's nothing more than a tu quoque logical fallacy.

By your logic, the rape victim who speaks out against toxic masculinity is sexist. Nope. Logical fallacy.

By your logic the lower caste citizen who speaks out against his treatment by the upper caste is "classist." Nope. Logical fallacy.

So just stop accusing your victims of your issues.

Dont worry about that racially charged murder, black people are immune from committing racism. He is just expressing his racially charged anger about being a victim in the most constructive way possible.

Its also ok that he robbed that white family at gunpoint just because its part of his past due reparations that all whites are obligated to pay to black people. If it wasnt for the systematic inequality he would have had a better education and a better job and would just own all that stuff anyways.

Finally its ok that he raped the white girl, after all if it wasnt for hundreds of years of slavery and oppression, he would be rich and powerful, and she would just want to be with him anyway.

The 27% of hate crimes in the US in 2017 committed by black people arent really hate crimes afterall, because black people are immune to being racist, because they can't possibly think that they are racially superior.

NEWSFLASH IDIOT.
Racism isnt about superiority, its about hate because of race. Black people can hate white people the same as white people can hate black people.
RACISM = RACISM = RACISM no matter who commits it.

 

[jackstar7]

@dyna and @sao123

Can you explain what exactly you are fighting for here? Can you articulate the point you are trying to make by saying that other races can be racist? What objective does that assertion further?

 

[MrSquished]

Dont worry about that racially charged murder, black people are immune from committing racism. He is just expressing his racially charged anger about being a victim in the most constructive way possible.

Its also ok that he robbed that white family at gunpoint just because its part of his past due reparations that all whites are obligated to pay to black people. If it wasnt for the systematic inequality he would have had a better education and a better job and would just own all that stuff anyways.

Finally its ok that he raped the white girl, after all if it wasnt for hundreds of years of slavery and oppression, he would be rich and powerful, and she would just want to be with him anyway.

The 27% of hate crimes in the US in 2017 committed by black people arent really hate crimes afterall, because black people are immune to being racist, because they can't possibly think that they are racially superior.

NEWSFLASH IDIOT.
Racism isnt about superiority, its about hate because of race. Black people can hate white people the same as white people can hate black people.
RACISM = RACISM = RACISM no matter who commits it.

Yes he was saying it's ok for white girls to get raped and white families to get robbed.

You smoke crack often or just on Wednesdays?

 

[sao123]

@dyna and @sao123

Can you explain what exactly you are fighting for here? Can you articulate the point you are trying to make by saying that other races can be racist? What objective does that assertion further?

Other races can be racist is the very fundamental point of this thread.
Op asked, are these headlines racist?
Answer is clearly yes.

Amused replied not once but twice: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...cism-hate-speech.2546798/page-6#post-39441437 Black people cannot be racist because racism cannot exist from the oppressed party, based on some random definition he found on a google search.

If black people can't be racist, then it should be impossible for them to commit a hate crime.

 

[jackstar7]

Other races can be racist is the very fundamental point of this thread.
Op asked, are these headlines racist?
Answer is clearly yes.

Amused replied not once but twice: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...cism-hate-speech.2546798/page-6#post-39441437 Black people cannot be racist because racism cannot exist from the oppressed party, based on some random definition he found on a google search.

I asked what objective are you furthering with this assertion. You did not answer that.

Is this a battle for reality as you see it? Facts? Truth?

If so, you're in deep waters and carrying more weight than you seem to know.

 

[sao123]

I asked what objective are you furthering with this assertion. You did not answer that.

Refutation of an incorrect statement is all the assertion I need.

 

[jackstar7]

Refutation of an incorrect statement is all the assertion I need.

Okay, as long as you understand that you have not refuted anything. You've just stated another opinion.

 

[crashtech]

Wouldn't the point be that, ultimately, we're all in this together? That we share our human foibles regardless of outward appearance? But that kind of silly rational talk isn't on the menu. It doesn't fit the predominant narrative. Punishing the descendants of oppressors does, though. Not just, or rational, but it feels good, so it must be right.

 

[jackstar7]

Wouldn't the point be that, ultimately, we're all in this together? That we share our human foibles regardless of outward appearance? But that kind of silly rational talk isn't on the menu. It doesn't fit the predominant narrative. Punishing the descendants of oppressors does, though. Not just, or rational, but it feels good, so it must be right.

Please explain who is being punished.

That sentiment reads a lot like "equality feels like oppression".

 

[sao123]

Okay, as long as you understand that you have not refuted anything. You've just stated another opinion.

Then please do enlighten me? How can the oppressed person, immune, no, incapable of committing racism, be capable of committing a racism based hate crime? Such must be impossible, yet 27% fact, no?

 

[crashtech]

Please explain who is being punished.

That sentiment reads a lot like "equality feels like oppression".

I spoke of narratives, not actions. Many speak of punishment. This is not debatable.
Please explain how you would come to your conclusion with such limited data.

 

[jackstar7]

Then please do enlighten me? How can the oppressed person, immune, no, incapable of committing racism, be capable of committing a racism based hate crime? Such must be impossible, yet 27% fact, no?

But if white people also suffer racism, how too can they be racist? Your logic is eating its own tail.

 

[jackstar7]

I spoke of narratives, not actions. Many speak of punishment. This is not debatable.
Please explain how you would come to your conclusion with such limited data.

Sorry, what's not debatable? I lost the thread there. Who are many?

 

[crashtech]

Sorry, what's not debatable? I lost the thread there. Who are many?

Will you be presenting any ideas of your own?

 

[jackstar7]

Will you be presenting any ideas of your own?

On this subject, I can, though I didn't realize it was required.

I think that racism is embedded in the cornerstone of the United States. For generations, progressive people have tried to push our society as a whole towards something living up to the egalitarian ideal of "... that all Men are created equal." Those people face tremendous push back. But the methods, such as Affirmative Action, do not harm the majority by trying to bring equality, but some people sure as shit believe it is so. I think minorities (in status/class, not numbers) demonstrate constantly how they seek to earn respect, and those who fight for the status quo of an unchanging majority will find any subsection of their numbers to demonstrate how they have not earned anything. They are labeled constantly as lazy, savages, criminals, etc. all due to their inherent nature, never once considering the context that gives rise to those subsections.

The minority (again in status/power/class) cannot oppress the majority. It just doesn't work that way.

So, what were you saying?

 

[fskimospy]

Agreed. So why aren't you desperately apologizing for this racism like you are for Roseanne's racism? Concerned minds want to know.

We all know the answer to this.

 

[Juiblex]

Did you read the article?

No, all I seen was a meme in the OP. I tried to see if they were links. But anyways, the question wasn't about the articles. It was about the titles and if they were considered racist. I found some of them racist.

U dum.

Thanks for your opinion, but you aren't that important to me. Your words mean nothing. Next time try to contribute so we can have a debate. If you are able to do such things.

 

[child of wonder]

The whole "the oppressed can't be racist" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Hate for a group of people because of their race or skin color = RACISM.

The end.

Twisting it into a power dynamic is what SJWs do to justify their own racism internally so they can feel good about hating white people.

 

[fskimospy]

No, all I seen was a meme in the OP. I tried to see if they were links. But anyways, the question wasn't about the articles. It was about the titles and if they were considered racist. I found some of them racist.

I would suggest reading the article. It’s a clickbait headline for an article about how we should oppose white supremacists.

This has been a very depressing thread overall. I always thought that the ‘white people are the real victims of racism’ was just a lie that conservatives told other people so they didn’t have to address the problems caused by racism. Apparently somewhere along the way they started believing their own bullshit.

 

[HomerJS]

The whole "the oppressed can't be racist" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Hate for a group of people because of their race or skin color = RACISM.

The end.

Twisting it into a power dynamic is what SJWs do to justify their own racism internally so they can feel good about hating white people.

Would you call slaves hatred of white people, racism? I'm assuming they did.