Do you consider thought to be a 100% physical manifestation?

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jjzelinski

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Your can't prove or disprove metaphysical theories like this, that why they're considered "meta." The concept is synonymous with religion, never in a thousand years can you prove someone wrong who's beliefs are held strictly independent of scientific proof.

As for my own opinion, yes I do consider thought to be a 100% physical manifestation.
 

PooBeetle

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you don't need ANY religion to expain all of this.
you need MODERN physics.

Science does not leave the door open to 'supernatural' possiblities. It ignores them, as it should.
Repeatable results is the only basis of science.

You can't prove or disprove metaphysical theories,
SO lets not even talk about them again on this thread,
OK?

any of these "brain is a resiliant machine, drugs, damage etc is all about dominos, NOT falling dominos. these are about meat and machinery, not mind.






so lets talk about Sum-Over potentials, spreading wave theory, and other theories of consciousness, not about a damaged brain on drugs in the butcher shop window. a computer has all the same elements as a dead brain in a butchers shop window, but who cares? it is NOT conscious, self aware etc. it is not a mind.






is thought a 100% physical manifestation?

i took this to mean, is it wholey concerned with condensed matter physics? (ie the mathematics of wave mechanics, sum over potentials of millions of neurons firing in concert etc etc etc)

and i replied with nothing but science, no, you need more.
expressly, non-condensed matter physics, and quantum mechanics, purely and simply because their effects exist (repeatably).

so i quote
"it is a rudimentary concept, that reality is shaped, even created by perception."
(Giles, off Buffy the Vampyre Slayer: Season One, Episode 11 "Out of Mind, Out of Sight", talking about basic quantum mechanics)

dream communication studies and quantum mechanics both demand consciousness have more properties than can currently be even remotely included in condensed matter physics.



 
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