Do you consider yourself racist?

[SandEagle]

Just an anti-Semite?

eat shoe, troll. find one example.
questioning israel's policies is not antisemitism.

that term has been thrown around so often its lost its effectiveness. keep up the good work shillol.

 

[Rakehellion]

All black people have more pigment in their skin than white people.

Not true.

Actually, you have it backwards. People with more pigment in their skin are black, and people with less are white, all things being equal.

 

[werepossum]

Yeah, well I bet you bet on Arabians too which makes you a Muslim sympathizer.

lol +1

Acknowledging the fact that there are biological differences between races makes you racist?

Certainly there are biological differences between races, yet I highly doubt that differing ratio of muscle cell types or oddly formed chromosomes make much difference in, well, anything except using those muscle cell types or catching/not catching certain diseases at slightly different rates.

Any competent biologist can point out that species tend to overlap morphologically, with certain key characteristics which identify species. Sub-species tend to overlap much more, and race is a much more artificial classification that is species or sub-species. I highly doubt there is anything behaviorally we can say regarding race with any accuracy.

1) I don't care what some internet forum posters think about me.
2) I don't consider being "racist" as such a dirty word as you believe it is. To you, that term invokes such venom, and is probably the worst thing someone can possibly be. To me, it's part of human nature. So if you want to call me "racist", all you are doing is saying "Life has taught you that different animals/groups of folks have different values, morals, and behaviors. Maybe its culture, evolution. Who knows, but in the end, we are different." in which I respond "Absolutely." So, if you (or anybody else here) want to label me a racist, go ahead. It doesn't hurt my feelings in any way.

Racism is the belief that a particular race is inherently superior or inferior. It's difficult to have such beliefs without them affecting your behavior, and racist behavior tends to drive other racist behavior both with you and against you. As such, it's a pretty bad thing. As far as being a part of human nature, sure, but that's hardly a justification. The urge to kill the other fellow and take his female is part of human nature too.

 

[werepossum]

Excessive eating and living a sedentary lifestyle makes you fat just like stealing TVs and selling crack makes your skin turn black. Duh.

lol +1

AF oath thread? What is that?

Regardless, adding the word want changes things more than you realize. There is a large difference IMO between "blacks burn businesses" and "blacks want to burn businesses." The first is a statement of easily verifiable fact. The second is conjecture, unless a specific group of black people are on the record stating exactly that, in which case the second statement become more clear that "blacks" refers to that specific group and not "all blacks."

I disagree. While technically true, "blacks burn businesses" has at the least the connotation that burning businesses is associated with being black. "Blacks want to burn businesses" seems to me to have the same connotations. Both also seem to me to be so true in general of every race as to be essentially useless statements, for surely in every possible race we could find more than one individual who have burned businesses and want to burn businesses. Certainly one could find useful things to say about some specific blacks burning or wanting to burn businesses and their reasons, but it seems to me that both statements are roughly equivalent unless one posits that black folks are burning businesses purely accidentally.

A better category for people like you would be: I'm a racist, but deflect attention away from my racism by calling others racist, a game I like to call Speed Racist where the first person to claim racism wins.

Ooh, that's good. Speed Racist.

I can seize the moral high ground without an actual point in three notes, Bob.

 

[RandomWords]

I'm not sure - racism is defined as only dealing with race and finding yourself superior or inferior to a person of a different race... In my experience - the term is used in society to include discrimination (against poor, rich, professions, males, females, etc - even of the same race) and stereotyping. So - on the basic definition - I believe in some extent everyone is a bit racist - I'm sure most people consider themselves more superior to some race of people (let's say cavemen to make a point - are cavemen their own race? - they seem like their own race)

 

[dank69]

lol +1


I disagree. While technically true, "blacks burn businesses" has at the least the connotation that burning businesses is associated with being black. "Blacks want to burn businesses" seems to me to have the same connotations. Both also seem to me to be so true in general of every race as to be essentially useless statements, for surely in every possible race we could find more than one individual who have burned businesses and want to burn businesses. Certainly one could find useful things to say about some specific blacks burning or wanting to burn businesses and their reasons, but it seems to me that both statements are roughly equivalent unless one posits that black folks are burning businesses purely accidentally.


Ooh, that's good. Speed Racist.

I can seize the moral high ground without an actual point in three notes, Bob.

I don't think I was clear with my post. When I mentioned those phrases I was thinking along the lines of my purported comment that Christians support X in that I think if I said such a thing it was likely meant that specific Christians support X not that all Christians support X. I don't know for sure though because I honestly don't know what he is referencing, but that is what I was thinking with those phrases. Blacks burn buildings was meant as these specific black people burned some buildings, not that black people in general burn buildings. Hopefully that clears things up rather than making it more confusing, lol.

 

[werepossum]

I don't think I was clear with my post. When I mentioned those phrases I was thinking along the lines of my purported comment that Christians support X in that I think if I said such a thing it was likely meant that specific Christians support X not that all Christians support X. I don't know for sure though because I honestly don't know what he is referencing, but that is what I was thinking with those phrases. Blacks burn buildings was meant as these specific black people burned some buildings, not that black people in general burn buildings. Hopefully that clears things up rather than making it more confusing, lol.

Understood, thanks.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Most of our current generation are more classist than racist.


The idea of true racism, based on nothing other than skin color, is a dying problem with society.

 

[brianmanahan]

"Does Rakehellion consider everyone else a racist?"

1. Yes
2. Yeah
3. Absolutely
4. Without a doubt
5. Of course, he calls everyone a racist every chance he gets
6. No (comedy option)

 

[SpatiallyAware]

lol

 

[werepossum]

Most of our current generation are more classist than racist.

The idea of true racism, based on nothing other than skin color, is a dying problem with society.

Was racism ever truly based on nothing other than skin color? Seems to me that things like "blacks aren't capable of caring for themselves, blacks are happier when someone else is making their decisions, blacks aren't like us" have just been replaced with "blacks are violent, blacks embrace thug culture, blacks are criminals". If people want to believe themselves superior, they can always find a reason.

And yeah, racism is a dying problem with our society. But like any other dying beast, it can still fuck you up before it stops breathing if you are unlucky - and it can still pull through if we become complacent.

 

[werepossum]

"Does Rakehellion consider everyone else a racist?"

1. Yes
2. Yeah
3. Absolutely
4. Without a doubt
5. Of course, he calls everyone a racist every chance he gets
6. No (comedy option)

lol

 

[DominionSeraph]

I thought the definition of racist was believing that one race, ethnicity, or culture group was superior to any other.

No. That is wrong even for actualized racial favoritism, which "racism" usually denotes, as there does not need be a formulated belief or even a direct comparison.

"Your new build didn't turn on? Gosh, you must be an idiot."
"My build didn't turn on? Goddamn Newegg sent me broken parts again!"

"Your kid is an Eagle Scout, was decorated for pulling a family out of a burning building, and was accepted to Harvard at 16? Neat how some kids are born with poise and drive."
"My kid turned out... umm... hey, he's not a serial killer! Oh, yeah! All me. Best. Dad. Ever."

I don't need to know your standard to invent and use a self-serving double standard. There can be an innate affinity for the self-serving, it need not be the effect of an overt belief.

"I am right and you are wrong."
"No, I am right and YOU are wrong."
"Well mine is right because, as it is self-serving of the superior being, it is superior."
That one would probably prompt someone to check themselves. This one even more so: "Mine is self-serving, self-serving is superior, thus I am right, thus I am the superior being."

Racism is pernicious because, as the expansion of self-centeredness into ingroup bias, its entry is usually in the unexamined choice of premise, not in the logical argument to follow.

"A white man saw a black carrying a gun in his neighborhood and shot him? Wow, I hope my neighborhood has such heroes! Said he was in fear of his life? Who wouldn't be? Good shoot. You have to protect what's yours. This is why we need guns to protect ourselves."

"A black man shot a white man as he was out walking? What is this nation coming to where a man can't exercise his Constitutional right to free movement without getting shot by some animal? They say he had a gun? What is that supposed to excuse in an open carry state? The killer didn't know the law, plain and simple, and he shot a completely innocent man. He was probably a racist just seething with envy looking for any reason to take out a white. This is why we need more guns to protect ourselves."

You don't need to have a formulated belief in racial superiority to be a racist. An affinity for conveniently shifting the goalposts in your favor and you have your "I'm not a racist," racist.

 

[werepossum]

No. That is wrong even for actualized racial favoritism, which "racism" usually denotes, as there does not need be a formulated belief or even a direct comparison.

"Your new build didn't turn on? Gosh, you must be an idiot."
"My build didn't turn on? Goddamn Newegg sent me broken parts again!"

"Your kid is an Eagle Scout, was decorated for pulling a family out of a burning building, and was accepted to Harvard at 16? Neat how some kids are born with poise and drive."
"My kid turned out... umm... hey, he's not a serial killer! Oh, yeah! All me. Best. Dad. Ever."

I don't need to know your standard to invent and use a self-serving double standard. There can be an innate affinity for the self-serving, it need not be the effect of an overt belief.

"I am right and you are wrong."
"No, I am right and YOU are wrong."
"Well mine is right because, as it is self-serving of the superior being, it is superior."
That one would probably prompt someone to check themselves. This one even more so: "Mine is self-serving, self-serving is superior, thus I am right, thus I am the superior being."

Racism is pernicious because, as the expansion of self-centeredness into ingroup bias, its entry is usually in the unexamined choice of premise, not in the logical argument to follow.

"A white man saw a black carrying a gun in his neighborhood and shot him? Wow, I hope my neighborhood has such heroes! Said he was in fear of his life? Who wouldn't be? Good shoot. You have to protect what's yours. This is why we need guns to protect ourselves."

"A black man shot a white man as he was out walking? What is this nation coming to where a man can't exercise his Constitutional right to free movement without getting shot by some animal? They say he had a gun? What is that supposed to excuse in an open carry state? The killer didn't know the law, plain and simple, and he shot a completely innocent man. He was probably a racist just seething with envy looking for any reason to take out a white. This is why we need more guns to protect ourselves."

You don't need to have a formulated belief in racial superiority to be a racist. An affinity for conveniently shifting the goalposts in your favor and you have your "I'm not a racist," racist.

If you ever imagined you had a cogent post in that mess, you must feel really pissed at whomever you feel stole it.

 

[TreVader]

No


If you truly think you are a racist, in practice, that's sad and it's indicative that your life has been difficult. People who grow up in shitty places tend to be racist.


If you are racist, I don't hate you. You have every right to be an ignorant fuck in this free country.

 

[TreVader]

If you ever imagined you had a cogent post in that mess, you must feel really pissed at whomever you feel stole it.

Lol I stopped at newegg.

 

[werepossum]

Lol I stopped at newegg.

Wish I had.

 

[Rakehellion]

"Does Rakehellion consider everyone else a racist?"

1. Yes
2. Yeah
3. Absolutely
4. Without a doubt
5. Of course, he calls everyone a racist every chance he gets
6. No (comedy option)

It's an open poll. No need to get defensive.

 

[bradly1101]

I believe racism is instinctual for humans, so is territorialism. We only need to look to our simian ancestors and relatives to see that differences between 'tribes' wreak fear and anxiety. We used to need to keep invaders from taking our tribe's food and water sources.

It only takes a little sophistication to overcome these instincts, but sadly most(?) people embrace them even though they don't serve us anymore. I've posted here before about a black man who approached me on the train and said, "Mutha f@ckin' cracka, you gonna die mutha f@cka," which was ironic because I've been a champion of civil rights since I knew what they were. I never play the disabled card, but he was saying this to a man (me) in a manual wheelchair.

 

[justoh]

So there's at least 26 racists in this thread. Interesting.

 

[Tracy_Sereika]

Is it racist to press 1 for English and expect to be connected to someone who understands English? It misses me the suck off to wait on hold and get someone who has a hard time understands what I'm saying or be able to understands me. It misses me the suck off. A NIGHTMARE!

 

[Jaskalas]

So there's at least 26 racists in this thread. Interesting.

What's your definition of racist?

Hate to break it to you, but being tribal is in your nature as well.

 

[nehalem256]

I believe racism is instinctual for humans, so is territorialism. We only need to look to our simian ancestors and relatives to see that differences between 'tribes' wreak fear and anxiety. We used to need to keep invaders from taking our tribe's food and water sources.

It is basically impossible for racism to be instinctual. Think about it. The very same evolutionary conditions that would lead to different races would basically make it impossible for their to be genetic racism.

Now, tribalism of course does make sense. So the real cause of racism is obsessing over race and making people view different races as different tribes.

 

[jackstar7]

Terrible poll. Where was the option for "Extremely"?

"More" is just too vague.

 

[bradley]

All good polls haven't any agendas. This isn't a good poll without any distinction between racism and bigotry and prejudice and judgment or preference, which can also be a neutral or even good thing btw.

And yeah, I personally don't have a problem with those who prefer to surround themselves with others comparable to them. I find it boring, but who am I to judge?