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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Back in 2008 my first reaction to seeing Michelle Obama is "hey, she's not ugly".
The slander of her secretly being a man, their kids adopted, etc... that is such BS.
This "cartoon" is obviously playing right into that crap.

I despise anyone dumb enough to support it.
 

Theb

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Feb 28, 2006
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I assume this is parody but just in case Laura Bush was in a car accident when she was a teen(?) that killed a friend in her car

An accident that happened because she blew a stop sign. The other teen that was killed was driving the car she hit.
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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Wow your meet up with swamplizard had made you full out liberal.

I do agree with what you said and the previous post that Trumps wife is a pretty nobody model is a bit offensive too.

*werepossum assuming its a very close race and voting 3rd party = throwing your vote away how would you vote? Hillary or Trump?
What about that was liberal?

BTW I do not accept that voting 3rd party = throwing your vote away. I have no intention of voting for either Hillary or Trump. I consider neither to be worth my support, and neither to be bad enough to vote against. I can't stand Mrs. Clinton and think she represents the worst among politicians, but I don't think she's Gore bad or Kerry bad. Maybe Trump would be better, but he could just as easily be worse. Maybe much worse. In any event, I'll be voting for Gary Johnson and I don't give a shit if I'm the last deciding vote and they are both standing there frantically waving their painted naughty bits in my general direction. (Probably not more than a 10% chance of that happening anyway.)

The only possible way I see that might change is if the Pubbies actually go through with the rumored plan to run an establishment candidate as an independent in the hopes of denying anyone an electoral majority, thereby throwing the election to the House of Representatives. In that case, fuck them very much, I'll vote a straight Democrat ticket - something I've never done in a Presidential election year. If they don't trust our judgement, they certainly don't deserve our votes. (At least Democrats are open in believing that we are all idiots who absolutely need their special blend of control, I don't need that from the GOP on top of the gay-hating and tree-hating.) Or if something really, really horrendous comes out about Hillary - but seeing as I already have an extremely low opinion of her and she's been, um, heavily investigated by some very motivated opposition, I actually cannot even imagine what might be that horrendous and yet still believable.

Back in 2008 my first reaction to seeing Michelle Obama is "hey, she's not ugly".
The slander of her secretly being a man, their kids adopted, etc... that is such BS.
This "cartoon" is obviously playing right into that crap.

I despise anyone dumb enough to support it.
Pretty sure that's not actually a thing, dude.

Correct, forgot about her.
. . . said virtually everyone on the planet.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Pretty sure that's not actually a thing, dude.

You clearly underestimate the depths of the infowars crowd.

Just google Michelle is Michael, or that Michelle is trans... there will be crackpot videos to explain in great detail the conspiracy. Guess where that bulge in the cartoon originates?

That trash cartoon is not subtle.
 

Fern

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Sep 30, 2003
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Back in 2008 my first reaction to seeing Michelle Obama is "hey, she's not ugly".
The slander of her secretly being a man, their kids adopted, etc... that is such BS.
This "cartoon" is obviously playing right into that crap.

I despise anyone dumb enough to support it.

Ahhh.. I've never heard of that (the tranny claim).

So that's what this cartoon is about? If so, I change my opinion to "yes" it's offensive.

Fern
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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You clearly underestimate the depths of the infowars crowd.

Just google Michelle is Michael, or that Michelle is trans... there will be crackpot videos to explain in great detail the conspiracy. Guess where that bulge in the cartoon originates?

That trash cartoon is not subtle.
A thing on infowars is not actually a thing. That would be like saying that a thing on Stormfront is actually a thing, or that a thing put out by Louis Farrakhan is actually a thing.

Like Sonikku, I totally missed that the fold in the dress was supposed to be a penis bulge. Surely if the intent was to depict Michelle as a man in drag, there would be a bulge worthy of, well, a penis.
 
Nov 25, 2013
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Offended? No.

I don't understand the cartoon. It certainly isn't funny to me. And I see no reason to subject Michelle Obama to any disparaging cartoon(s). Leave the wife and kids alone.

I also wonder if the cartoonist is trying to say Michelle is a strong woman and Ms Trump is some kind of lightweight trophy wife of no substance.

Fern

Doubtful:

"We are trying to do our part by means of artwork to help raise awareness of the drift toward tyranny. We as private citizens need to reclaim and fight for our rights as enumerated in our Constitution. It's time to speak out and express our outrage at the growing tyranny of Big Government. That's why we created GrrrGraphics!​"

http://grrrgraphics.com/about.html
 
Nov 25, 2013
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I assume this is parody but just in case Laura Bush was in a car accident when she was a teen(?) that killed a friend in her car

She was 17. She was driving the car, ran a stop sign and hit a car driven by, it turned out, a close friend. He died.

"In May 2000, a two-page police report pertaining to a fatal accident that had taken place near Midland, Texas, in 1963 was made public. It contained the information that 17-year-old Laura Welch had run a stop sign, causing the death of the sole occupant of the vehicle hers had struck. According to that report, the future First Lady had been driving her Chevrolet sedan to a local drive-in theater on a clear night shortly after 8 p.m. on 6 November 1963 when she entered an intersection without heeding the stop sign and there collided with the Corvair sedan driven by 17-year-old Michael Douglas. Also in the car with Laura Welch was her friend, 17-year-old Judy Dykes.

How fast Miss Welch might have been driving is open to question. That part of the police report is illegible, although two biographies of the First Lady refer to her as having been going 50 mph at the time of the collision. The speed limit on that portion of road was 55 mph. According to the police report neither driver had been drinking, but no tests were performed. No charges were filed as a result of the accident.

News accounts from 1963 reported the young man as having been thrown from his car and dying of a broken neck; he was pronounced dead on arrival at Midland Memorial Hospital. According to various biographies of Mrs. Bush, the boy's father had been traveling in a car immediately behind his son's and witnessed the whole thing.

The two teen girls were taken to the same hospital and treated for minor injuries that amounted to bumps and bruises."

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp
 

SheHateMe

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So much disrespect for our President and his Wife. The attacks have been unrelenting. This woman is highly educated, successful, and classy as fuck.....and white folks still attack her. Amazing.

Im so tired of people saying its not because she's black. It fucking is. Melania Trump is proof of that. She cant even hold a candle to Michelle, she has trashy photos of herself on the internet. She's just some mail order side piece from Russia that got herself a rich husband......and yet, she is considered a better woman than Michelle Obama.

This entire family has been dragged all over the place. A month or so ago, assholes were making comments about Malia heading off to Harvard. They were so bad that the comment section on FoxNews had to be removed. They say even worse shit over on Breitbart.


I hope the Obamas go on a really nice vacation for a few months after they leave.
 
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woolfe9998

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I don't think I'm known for being especially PC, but I DO think the cartoon is offensive, obviously not to me personally, but offensive in general. I agree with shehateme. This cartoon is deliberately playing off a stereotype of black women being masculine.

I would also add that during the Bush years, obviously there was a raging torrent of criticism of Bush coming from the left. Funny that I can't recall Laura Bush ever being included in that. Maybe someone somewhere said something once. I never saw it after many years on political discussion forums during the Bush years. Bringing the First Lady into this political poo slinging shows no class whatsoever.
 
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cubby1223

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Doubtful:

"We are trying to do our part by means of artwork to help raise awareness of the drift toward tyranny. We as private citizens need to reclaim and fight for our rights as enumerated in our Constitution. It's time to speak out and express our outrage at the growing tyranny of Big Government. That's why we created GrrrGraphics!​"

http://grrrgraphics.com/about.html

So you're quoting the general goals behind the cartoonist's general work, which may or may not be what is meant to be reflected in every single cartoon.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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It's clear people like whores!

Melania High Class Whore!

Ahh liberals. The protectors of women, unless they are women who are politically unacceptable, then they are whores.


Tell me, what does that make HillBilly? She stayed with Bill for power. He has pounded every pussy from Little Rock to Chappaqua, from Beijing to Reykjavik. Yet she stayed with him, why?

Because she is a whore. A low class whore. And you love her.

See how that works.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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So you're quoting the general goals behind the cartoonist's general work, which may or may not be what is meant to be reflected in every single cartoon.

With a stated goal like that and a cartoon that doesn't relate to that goal then they should be called out on it right? Otherwise they are nothing than another right wing propaganda outlet, right?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Ahh liberals. The protectors of women, unless they are women who are politically unacceptable, then they are whores.


Tell me, what does that make HillBilly? She stayed with Bill for power. He has pounded every pussy from Little Rock to Chappaqua, from Beijing to Reykjavik. Yet she stayed with him, why?

Because she is a whore. A low class whore. And you love her.

See how that works.

I don't see how that works. Maybe you can explain to us how someone like yourself can go so far off the deep end. Depression? Drugs? Stress? Here's your chance to play the white male victim card.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
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I don't see how that works. Maybe you can explain to us how someone like yourself can go so far off the deep end. Depression? Drugs? Stress? Here's your chance to play the white male victim card.
Awe, poor libby, did I hurt your feelers?

Truth hurts. I don't need to play the victim card. Juanita Broadderick is the whore's victim, along with every other woman bill took advantage of while hillbilly sat there supporting him. Hillbilly whored out her woman card for power and tossed every woman bill fucked under the bus, all so she could eventually get the presidency.

And boy, do you love your whores.
 
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master_shake_

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May 22, 2012
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Ahh liberals. The protectors of women, unless they are women who are politically unacceptable, then they are whores.


Tell me, what does that make HillBilly? She stayed with Bill for power. He has pounded every pussy from Little Rock to Chappaqua, from Beijing to Reykjavik. Yet she stayed with him, why?

Because she is a whore. A low class whore. And you love her.


See how that works.


criss-cross

:sneaky:
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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With a stated goal like that and a cartoon that doesn't relate to that goal then they should be called out on it right? Otherwise they are nothing than another right wing propaganda outlet, right?

Your response makes no logical sense. Not even sure where to go with it.

If the cartoon goes against the goal, then yes. If a cartoon here or there is an unrelated subject, then it's just political hackery to be "called out on it".
 

madoka

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Jun 22, 2004
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Im so tired of people saying its not because she's black. It fucking is.

When you see this shopped image of French first lady Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, Princess Letizia, and Michelle Obama, do you think it's more due to racism or lookism?

 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Your response makes no logical sense. Not even sure where to go with it.

If the cartoon goes against the goal, then yes. If a cartoon here or there is an unrelated subject, then it's just political hackery to be "called out on it".

You seem to have got what I was saying just fine.
 
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