Do you fly ... and do you have allergies?

dud

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I found this article on Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) interesting in that it explained how the process to being approved to travel with an ESA ... and the impact that flying with someone who is flying with an ESA can have on the rest of us.

I found this both interesting and disturbing: "If an ESA causes someone's allergy to flare up, the passenger with the allergy will be reaccommodated if possible. "But in the end, it's not like there's a wall there that prevents the air from constantly being recirculated through the cabin," says Malis. If the passenger has a really severe allergy, they'll likely have to get off the flight and onto the next available service.

It'll never be the passenger with the ESA who moves."





So, people flying WITHOUT ESAs are basically secondary to those that do. Have any flying stories to share?
 
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Scarpozzi

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I found this article on Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) interesting in that it explained how the process to being approved to travel with an ESA ... and the impact that flying with someone who is flying with an ESA can have on the rest of us.

I found this both interesting and disturbing: "If an ESA causes someone's allergy to flare up, the passenger with the allergy will be reaccommodated if possible. "But in the end, it's not like there's a wall there that prevents the air from constantly being recirculated through the cabin," says Malis. If the passenger has a really severe allergy, they'll likely have to get off the flight and onto the next available service.

It'll never be the passenger with the ESA who moves."





So, people flying WITHOUT ESAs are basically secondary to those that do. Have any flying stories to share?
If it's a real problem, quit complaining and charter your own flight. Despite the relatively high cost of some flights, it's not different than riding a public bus and paying a fare.

There are scummy people, stuck up people, and entitled idiots everywhere. It's just more apparent when you're stuck in a confined space for 1-4 hours or more with them. If you have allergies to pets, go to Samsclub and get a bunch of generic Zyrtec and pop some of that before getting on the plane....just in case. Might even help you if there are plants you have allergies to when you land.
 
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clamum

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No allergies, thankfully. I only fly like once a year though, just a short ass ~1.25hr flight to parents' during Christmas. I can't think of any good stories though; all of my flights (even when I was flying for work a few times) have been pretty non-eventful.
 

dud

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If it's a real problem, quit complaining and charter your own flight. Despite the relatively high cost of some flights, it's not different than riding a public bus and paying a fare.

There are scummy people, stuck up people, and entitled idiots everywhere. It's just more apparent when you're stuck in a confined space for 1-4 hours or more with them. If you have allergies to pets, go to Samsclub and get a bunch of generic Zyrtec and pop some of that before getting on the plane....just in case. Might even help you if there are plants you have allergies to when you land.


You appear to be a very angry person who likes to jump to conclusions. I do not suffer from allergies. I asked a simple question. That is all ...
 
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BudAshes

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Similar to every big business these days, the airlines will do whatever their lawyers tell them is the least likely thing to get them sued.
 
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Braznor

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If it's a real problem, quit complaining and charter your own flight. Despite the relatively high cost of some flights, it's not different than riding a public bus and paying a fare.

There are scummy people, stuck up people, and entitled idiots everywhere. It's just more apparent when you're stuck in a confined space for 1-4 hours or more with them. If you have allergies to pets, go to Samsclub and get a bunch of generic Zyrtec and pop some of that before getting on the plane....just in case. Might even help you if there are plants you have allergies to when you land.


Thank you for your support for ESAs. I could always do with a kind hearted stranger like you when I travel on any flight with my7 foot alligator ESA.
 

BudAshes

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Thank you for your support for ESAs. I could always do with a kind hearted stranger like you when I travel on any flight with my7 foot alligator ESA.

Just let all the kids know on the flight that if they start screaming or kicking people's seats they are getting fed to the 'gator.
 

BoomerD

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I avoid flying whenever possible...haven't had to do it since 2007. Yes, I have a couple of allergies, but it's highly unlikely I'll be exposed to codeine or hydrocodone...or bees on planes.
 

BudAshes

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I avoid flying whenever possible...haven't had to do it since 2007. Yes, I have a couple of allergies, but it's highly unlikely I'll be exposed to codeine or hydrocodone...or bees on planes.

I have had it with these motherfucking bees on this motherfucking plane!!!!
 

snoopy7548

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What if my allergies are due to a medical condition recognized by the ADA? Does the person with an emotional support cat get to stay on the flight?

I firmly believe the line has to be drawn at ESAs. If you're telling me to take some anti-allergy medication because somebody "needs" their cat on the flight, it should be alright to tell them to take some Xanax.
 

Midwayman

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Honestly we're too accommodating of all this BS these days. Flying isn't a right. If you have some weird restriction that impacts a ton of people I'm okay with the fact that maybe not every flight is open to you. Maybe they need to designate a certain percentage of flight open to ESA or whatever and people with allergies can book other flights if taking an allergy pill isn't enough.
 

IronWing

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The mind boggles at claiming a cat as a support animal on a flight. What is calming about a totally freaked out, scared shitless cat? Dogs and gators I can see.
 

BudAshes

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Lol @ the peacock and the turkey. To be honest I'll take a turkey or horse on a flight over a toddler.

It would be funny though if someone's dog ate the turkey. I mean could you really blame it?
 

deadlyapp

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Ya'll realize that they don't need to be ESA to fly on a plane right? Almost every airline allows small fuzzy animals that fit under the front seat in an enclosed container to fly.

The ESA only gets you basically the ability to fly with any size animal - although you have to generally buy them their own seat if they take up the space.
 

thestrangebrew1

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I haven't had an ESA on any flights I've been on but I don't fly often. That being said, I'm allergic to some cats, and I can't figure out which ones. My SIL has a few cats in her house and I can't be in it for more than about 10 mins before my reactions go nuts. I tried taking in a kitty a few years ago for my daughter and that lasted about a month. But when I met my wife, she had a cat and I never had any problems, and just yesterday we were at a friends who has a few cats and no problems there either.
 

FeuerFrei

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This kind of boneheaded policy is what happens when you have moms and animal lovers making decisions. Waaaay too sensitive to emotional needs and fur babies.
 
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24 deaths out of 500,000 animals flown in 2017. Most of them are short nose breeds which simply shouldn't fly anyways. Let's not confuse facts with truth.
From what I've seen, animal deaths are not accurately tracked. I'd take that statistic with a grain of salt.
 

kn51

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I like how Delta banned sugar gliders. That must have been fun in the club/up in the air.
 

Exterous

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Never seen an ESA on any of my flights or really in the airport but a lot of the stories out there are a bit crazy in terms of what people are doing.
 
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