Do you know what case and PSU model/brand this is?

[greatnoob]

Hi I'm wondering if anybody knows what the brand of this case and PSU is? I'm guessing the PSU is not the same brand as the case but I don't have enough courage to untie the neat cabling and remove the unit to verify. I'd like to know if I can upgrade the graphics card to something more reasonable like a GTX 750 TI or 760 with the PSU. It has an unused 6-pin connector tied around the back of the case if that helps out.

PC Parts Equivalent (Z87, not Z97 Motherboard and Sapphire not ASUS graphics card): http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/NzyFpg











Thanks!

 

[guidinggod]

The case is a Sentey Arvina GS-6400

http://www.sentey.com/en/arvina-black-gs-6400

Unsure about the PSU, maybe someone else might know - re the 750ti, it hardly needs a heavy power supply to run, even 300W is fine - That said, never hurts to know what components you're running for future ref...do not be afraid to untie the cabling and check Luke (after turning everything off and taking out the wall socket ofcourse)

 

[greatnoob]

The case is a Sentey Arvina GS-6400

http://www.sentey.com/en/arvina-black-gs-6400

Unsure about the PSU, maybe someone else might know - re the 750ti, it hardly needs a heavy power supply to run, even 300W is fine - That said, never hurts to know what components you're running for future ref...do not be afraid to untie the cabling and check Luke (after turning everything off and taking out the wall socket ofcourse)

Thanks! They look almost 1:1 but I noticed that the case on hand doesn't have the logo and (luckily) isn't glossy all around.

A 750 TI is great but if I can use the 6 pin knowing my PSU can supply power adequately to the likes of a GTX 660 then there's no harm going with the highest supported card.

Does the 6 pin connector guarantee compatibility with a 6 pin compatible card like the 660?

 

[mfenn]

The PSU should have a sticker on one of the sides that gives its ratings. It'll probably also state the model number. Without that, you won't really be able to say for sure that a higher power card will work (it probably will, but who knows?).

 

[meeshu]

From the supplied photos it is not possible to identify the make and model of the PSU.

It should possible to remove the PSU's mounting screws and then move the PSU and/or angle it with minimal disturbance to the cabling so the make and model can be identified by reading the label on the PSU.

Then we can get a better idea of the capability of the PSU.

Assuming no overclocking, with all four DDR3 DIMM's installed, and a GTX 750 Ti video card installed, a quality PSU rated at a minimum of 350W is recommended. Chances are the existing PSU is rated greater than 350W, but it is not guaranteed until make and model is confirmed.

 

[JackMDS]

Minimum PSU that Sentey offers is 500Watts.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Minimum PSU that Sentey offers is 500Watts.

Except, their BP-450 PSU that ships with many of their cases is really 250W, going by its 12V rating. Yes, I speak from experience, with with of their microATX case + PSU combos.

That said, they worked just fine for a pair of E5200 / E3300 rigs, with 4GB DDR3, and 500GB HDDs. No overclocking, though they handled an OC of 2.5Ghz to 3.0Ghz at stock voltage. (Mobo wouldn't allow vcore adjustments, otherwise I would have tried higher.)

 

[dbcooper1]

Remove the 4 mounting screws on the back of the case and see what else you can see on the sides of the power supply. Removing the right side of the case might help too and a flashlight and/or inspection mirror might be helpful.

 

[MongGrel]

NM no idea personally.

 

[DigDog]

sleeved cables, large fan, well built chassis, six-pin. i would hazard to guess its a 500W.
smaller wattage PSUs are practically empty insde, that one has a good deal of components.

 

[JackMDS]

Except, their BP-450 PSU that ships with many of their cases is really 250W, going by its 12V rating. Yes, I speak from experience, with with of their microATX case + PSU combos.

Except that the BRP - 450 comes in slim cases and does not look evem close the one in the OP's pic.

Their minimum that look right is this:

And Up to this:

 

[mfenn]

Except that the BRP - 450 comes in slim cases and does not look evem close the one in the OP's pic.

Except the BRP-500 (first psu pictured) offers only 318W combined on the 12V rail, which indicates that it is a very old design. I beleive that this was Larry's point: because Sentey commonly ships designs with antiquated amperage distributions, we need to know the information from the PSU's sticker.

Also, I would not be surprised if they have a separate model schema for their OEM units that is distinctly different from their retail products.

 

[greatnoob]

A friend of mine found this Coolermaster PSU that looks exactly like mine:

http://www.coolermaster.com/powersupply/elite-series/elite-power-350w/

The only difference though, is that CM lists it as not having a 6 pin connector whereas the one in my case does. Going through the other 'Elite' series PSUs and it seems like none of the higher rated wattage parts look like the 350w one. Maybe the 6 pin connector was a bad idea at 350w and CM released a new revision without it?

EDIT: What a coincidence, I mistyped Elite 350w on Google and I get the EXACT same PSU from Thermaltake, they are the same except naming: Coolermaster Elite 350W PSU vs Thermaltake Lite power 350w:
http://www.thermaltake.com/Power_Su...itepower/C_00001753/Litepower_350W/design.htm

Are Thermaltake and CM the same company or am I missing something?

EDIT 2: Seems like it could be this 400w part from Thermaltake, although different colour:
http://www.thermaltake.com/Power_Su...itepower/C_00000930/Litepower_400W/Design.htm

 

[daveybrat]

You can't go by looks alone on a power supply. Only way we'll know is for you to take out the 4 screws on the back of it and turn it over to see the sticker.

 

[greatnoob]

I'm very certain it's one of those upper-end cheap PSUs. It should be 400w @ 70% efficiency.

Either way I'll have to replace it alongside the GPU if I want to use this rig for more than a couple of years. Any recommendations for the PSU?

It feels daunting thinking about removing the PSU and all those cables and installing a new one with the cables plugged incorrectly, I don't even know anybody tech savvy to do it for me.

EDIT: Interestingly enough, it also resembles the likes of a Corsair CX 600 here (lower wattage of course):

Is there a reason why all these PSUs from different manufacturers look so alike?

 

[ronbo613]

Since power supplies have to fit into computer cases with similar bolt hole mounting patterns, most of them are going to look about the same, except for a few cosmetic differences and the wiring harnesses.

If you do have a cheaper type PSU and it's a few years old, it's probably going to run below the listed specs because power supplies eventually wear out. Replacing a PSU shouldn't be too difficult, the plugs are for specific sockets, just match them up.

 

[mfenn]

Since power supplies have to fit into computer cases with similar bolt hole mounting patterns, most of them are going to look about the same, except for a few cosmetic differences and the wiring harnesses.

If you do have a cheaper type PSU and it's a few years old, it's probably going to run below the listed specs because power supplies eventually wear out. Replacing a PSU shouldn't be too difficult, the plugs are for specific sockets, just match them up.

:thumbsup:

OP, since you have a working PSU setup, you should be able to take notes on what plugs where and refer to them when you're installing the new PSU. If you can turn a screwdriver and insert plugs into sockets, you can install a PSU.

 

[greatnoob]

:thumbsup:

OP, since you have a working PSU setup, you should be able to take notes on what plugs where and refer to them when you're installing the new PSU. If you can turn a screwdriver and insert plugs into sockets, you can install a PSU.

Ah I sure hope so! I've read one or two threads here where users have said plugging in a cable the wrong way can fry the motherboard and/or graphics card. Something to do with plugging a 4 pin cable into a 6 pin slot. Adding to that, I'm not really electrical tech savvy, apart from P=IV I know nothing more that could help me troubleshoot problems before or after they happen. I don't think anybody apart from me could ruin a fan's bearing just by opening a case, so that just goes to show you how careless I am even when I try really hard to not screw up. :\

What would be a good PSU for this build? Would a 500w 80% efficienct PSU mean it could transform 500*0.8 watts of power at full load or am I missing something?

 

[mfenn]

Just take careful notes (and even pictures) on how it is currently hooked up, and you should have no problem replacing the PSU. If you get stumped on the new one, take your time and consult your notes and you should be fine.

Regarding the PSU a quality 500W unit would be fine for a GTX 750 Ti or GTX 960 based system. For example, this Antec Neo ECO 520C for $85 would be good.

Regarding efficiency, the rating on the power supply is how much power it can output, so a hypothetical 80% efficient unit would actaully be drawing 500 W / 0.8 = 625W as input from the wall at full load. The output power scales with actual load being presented by the components though, so a 500W unit doesn't always draw 625W, that's the maximum.