Do you own a gun?

[FrogDog]

<< No! Guns are for penile-disadvantaged "children" who have yet to grow up and take on the world without their boy-toys! >>

Right on, Skoorb! Sing it!

Rosie O'Fat

 

[Carbo]

No. I don't presently, never have and never will. I have no shortcomings in the genital area. I've said it before and I'll say it again: every hunter is a potential mass murderer.

 

[ViperMagic]

<< The city I live in doesnt allow guns....isnt this unconstitional? :frown: >>



Not that I'm a expert or anything, But I'd think so. Contact teh NRA. I'll dig up a link

 

[glenn1]

<< I've said it before and I'll say it again: every hunter is a potential mass murderer. >>



And because you (presumably) have a penis, you're a potential rapist.

Just because you are unfamiliar with and are scared by an inanimate object (i.e. a firearm), that is no reason to demonize those who do own them.

 

[jbod]

Actually I did learn about guns when I was a penile-disadvantaged child at the age of 9.

The reason I make the distinction between semi-auto and auto, is that people portray semi's the same as an automatic weapon. There is a big difference.

How many people here know the difference?

 

[Carbo]

<< And because you (presumably) have a penis, you're a potential rapist. >>

Huh?? Not quite sure what the analogy is supposed to mean. But, by you're reasoning Glenn, because you (presumably) have a brain, you're a potential homo sapiens. So, you can see the error in that line of reasoning.

 

[FrogDog]

<< Actually I did learn about guns when I was a penile-disadvantaged child at the age of 9.

The reason I make the distinction between semi-auto and auto, is that people portray semi's the same as an automatic weapon. There is a big difference.

How many people here know the difference? >>

You can only kill one person per second instead of 3?

 

[aiex]

I own an air rifel, and my dad owns 2 shotguns (he used to work very closly with farmers so needed them for shoots), but they are all locked up in a cabinate with 5mm steel that is bolted to the floor

We also have to have them inspected once every so often, have window locka on all windows and have at least a 5pin mortice lock on every outside door keeps things safe, but tis law here


Are things really as bad in the US as the british media make out? do that many people really get shot over there??


Alex

 

[Zenmervolt]

I don't now, but I will at some point in the future. I have no intention of ever using the gun, but I feel that everyone should know how to handle a firearm safely. Knowing how to use a gun safely is kind of like knowing how to drive a manual transmission even if you only ever own automatics; you never know when the skill will be important to have. As for the genital and potential murderer arguments, I think you're treading very close to Adul's threatened trout-slapping.

ZV

EDIT: Carbo, the analogy between your argument and the potential rapist argument is logically perfect. You claim that a person who possesses an instrument for a certain action (in your case the action is a murder and the instrument is a gun) will potentially commis that action. The rapist argument claims that a person who possesses an instrument for a certain action (in this case, the instrument is a penis, and the action is rape) will potentially commit that action. As far as formal logic is concerned, there is absolutely no difference between the two arguments, and since the second argument is clearly invalid, then the first argument (which is identical to the second) must also be invalid.

 

[Option1]

<< No! Guns are for penile-disadvantaged "children" who have yet to grow up and take on the world without their boy-toys! >>

 

[Spamela]

yes, but i haven't shot it in awhile.

not all gun owners are survivalist-penile-compensating-fruitcakes, although there are a few of those on ATOT.

 

[gar598]

negative ghost-rider

 

[Amused]

<< No. I don't presently, never have and never will. I have no shortcomings in the genital area. I've said it before and I'll say it again: every hunter is a potential mass murderer. >>



What ridiculous nonsense. And highly ironic nonsense at that. You claim you have balls, yet fear everyone around you just because they may be armed. How sad.

Another fascist who feels the need to control everyone because they just might possibly hurt him. Yep, that's right, folks. Instead of punishing only those who have proven to be dangerous or irresponsible, these types of folks would rather punish the other 98% of us who have never, and would never harm anyone for any reason other than self defense. Speaking of self defense, they don't believe in it. They rather you be unarmed and helpless, because for some unknown, twisted reason, this makes them feel safer.

Just remember folks, the cities with the highest gun related crime rates are those cities with the tightest controls on guns.

 

[Carbo]

aiex, yes, things really are as bad as is reported in the Brit media. In fact, probably worse. Every dolt with an "X" for a signature can buy a gun in this country. NIne year olds walk around packing heat. Schools require metal detectors. But the blood lust crowd cries out for more guns.

 

[pyonir]

<< No! Guns are for penile-disadvantaged "children" who have yet to grow up and take on the world without their boy-toys! >>


except if you need one to do your job, like me (soon anyway, gotta finish school first, but then entering into federal law enforcement)

 

[jjones]

I have several.



<< I've said it before and I'll say it again: every hunter is a potential mass murderer. >>


Then it's likely you've heard this before too: No, they're not.

 

[aiex]

NIne year olds walk around packing heat. Schools require metal detectors


I was meant to be comming to the US for a year's study soon (my middle year of uni is meant to be in the states), but i may well re-consider that. Although guns in the UK are not great the only gun i have to worry about anybody pointing at my face at college is maybe a m8's BB gun, now their fun but i don't see the real urge to carry a real gun and kill real people, just doesn;t make sense


Alex

 

[StageLeft]

I was kidding. Not all of them are penile-disadvantaged. Just half of them. For instance anybody who has a gun collection and keeps cleaning their guns all the time...I'd do well if I was such a person to consider why I'm doing this.

But anyway the prevalence of guns in the US shouldn't keep you from going there. The fact still remains that the vast majority of people in the US will live their lives and never be the victim of a gun-related crime.

 

[Zenmervolt]

<<Just remember folks, the cities with the highest gun related crime rates are those cities with the tightest controls on guns. >>

How dare you bring actual facts into the discussion. You clearly forget that the emotional non-arguments against guns are easliy superior when deciding this issue. I mean, come on. People don't kill people, guns kill people. All by themselves in fact. Guns are malicious little devices that actively and independantly seek to destroy life, love and all that is beautiful.

ZV

EDIT: <<...i don't see the real urge to carry a real gun and kill real people, just doesn;t make sense...>> Regardless of the propaganda, very few people ever own a gun with malicious intent. There is no link between wanting to own a gun and wanting to kill people. There are thousands of quieter, easier, and less obvious to kill people than guns. To single out one of a multitude of weapons looks nice on the surface, but it just doesn't work in real life since another type of weapon will rise to take its place. Also, the people who do use weapons with malice will not care if their weapon is legal or illegal.

 

[LoneWolf1]

Short answer: yes

 

[Maetryx]

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<< No! Guns are for penile-disadvantaged "children" who have yet to grow up and take on the world without their boy-toys! >>


except if you need one to do your job, like me (soon anyway, gotta finish school first, but then entering into federal law enforcement) >>



You mean that you think that everyone else is an immature unstable gun nut, *except* federal law enforcement? If that's the case I hope to God you don't get hired.

Americans do not need a reason to own a firearm. It is a protected right, delineated (but not granted) by the founding document of this nation. If someone does not wish to own a firearm, then so be it. The gun-shunners owe an allegiance to the gun-owners because force is the price of freedom, but they're certainly free to ride the coattails of those that value freedom.

But if that same person wishes to deprive other Americans of their firearms, I think they should be executed.

 

[Option1]

<< ...
People don't kill people, guns kill people...

ZV >>

Actually as the NRA has pointed out so often "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." And that is far and away the best reason I could ever put forward for keeping guns, the most effective tool for killing, out of the hands of people.

Neil
(Yes, I did realize your initial post was sarcasm)

 

[extro]

Glock .40 (model 23) and Hydrashock 155gr (when you care enough to send the very best).

 

[StageLeft]

<< <<Just remember folks, the cities with the highest gun related crime rates are those cities with the tightest controls on guns. >>

How dare you bring actual facts into the discussion. You clearly forget that the emotional non-arguments against guns are easliy superior when deciding this issue. I mean, come on. People don't kill people, guns kill people. All by themselves in fact. Guns are malicious little devices that actively and independantly seek to destroy life, love and all that is beautiful.

ZV >>



Nice little fact. Of course it ignores the other fact that the US on a per-capita basis dwarfs the hell out of Canada in gun-related crimes. The US & Canada share highly similar cultures. The likely difference? The fact that in Canada there is not a gun for every citizen in the country.

We've all heard the argument that "If you make it harder to get guns only criminals will have them.". On a short-term basis that may in fact be true. The real problem is that the US is so flooded with firearms that to institute more laws to remove them from society will just mean that a higher ratio of them are in criminal hands. What the US needs is:

1) Stricter laws such as those in Canada
2) This coupled with a major decrease in the number of guns in the US

If you impose 1) alone the "criminals will be the only ones with guns" argument may come to pass, so 2) has to be imposed at the same time. I don't know how to do it and nobody else really does either. What we can safely say is that until the US does something it's gun-crime will continue to be world famous. Constitutional right to bare arms isn't much of a consolation when you're bleeding from a gut-shot that you just received in a botched robbery. This is something that far fewer Canadians will ever have to worry about.

 

[Amused]

<< NIne year olds walk around packing heat. Schools require metal detectors


I was meant to be comming to the US for a year's study soon (my middle year of uni is meant to be in the states), but i may well re-consider that. Although guns in the UK are not great the only gun i have to worry about anybody pointing at my face at college is maybe a m8's BB gun, now their fun but i don't see the real urge to carry a real gun and kill real people, just doesn;t make sense


Alex >>



Funny, but your crime rate in the UK is higher than ours, and you're afraid to come here? That's a laugh.

I'd rather take my chances here in a country that doesn't send people to jail for life simply for using deadly force to protect their homes and lives like your country does.