Do you ride?

[Bateluer]

Like most people, when gas goes up, I start looking for cheaper modes of transportation. Since I'm looking at replacing my 10 yr old Corolla anyway, I'm considering a motorcycle, specifically some kind of low end cruise. Honda Rebel maybe. Other models? I looked at scooters too, they cost a LOT less, but being highway legal is kinda critical for me to get to work.

Obviously, before I make any purchase, I'd take an Introductory Riders course to see if I'm 'able' to ride safely.

 

[MiataNC]

You will NOT save money getting a bike.

Once you factor in the training (as much as a couple hundred dollars in some areas) bike, insurance, and all the gear you will need any gas savings is going to be minimal if anything at all. Factor in maintenance and tires (which generally need to be replaced @4-5000 miles and cost @$100 each), and the odds are you will be out of pocket when all is said and done.

Most bikes get 30-45mpg city (some less and some more). You would have to ride a LOT of miles to make up for the above mentioned costs.

 

[Fenixgoon]

You will NOT save money getting a bike.

Once you factor in the training (as much as a couple hundred dollars in some areas) bike, insurance, and all the gear you will need any gas savings is going to be minimal if anything at all. Factor in maintenance and tires (which generally need to be replaced @4-5000 miles and cost @$100 each), and the odds are you will be out of pocket when all is said and done.

Most bikes get 30-45mpg city (some less and some more). You would have to ride a LOT of miles to make up for the above mentioned costs.

this. a bike is a toy. a very, very fun toy

 

[SithSolo1]

A Rebel would be fine around town and for short highway trips. It'll also gets upwards of 55 mpg on regular fuel and won't cost an arm and a leg to insure. Aside from buying the bike the only major costs are getting the gear and training($250 for the course here) but thats a one time thing.

I bought a used one last fall, pristine condition for $2k. Came with a helm, jacket, and pants. Insurance for the year was $400 for a 1st time rider. Sadly I haven't learned to ride the damn thing yet but I should. $180/mo for fuel and rising is starting to put a hurt on my wallet.

 

[Doppel]

You will NOT save money getting a bike.

Once you factor in the training (as much as a couple hundred dollars in some areas) bike, insurance, and all the gear you will need any gas savings is going to be minimal if anything at all. Factor in maintenance and tires (which generally need to be replaced @4-5000 miles and cost @$100 each), and the odds are you will be out of pocket when all is said and done.

Most bikes get 30-45mpg city (some less and some more). You would have to ride a LOT of miles to make up for the above mentioned costs.

Don't forget medical bills.

 

[Greenman]

If you travel enough miles you might save a few bucks with a bike, if you buy a cheap bike and keep it.
The Rebel is an awesome little machine, I'd like to have one just to play with.

Edit: Forgot to answer the question, yes I ride, but not as much as I'd like too. I have an 08 V-Rod.

 

[Kroze]

You will NOT save money getting a bike.

Once you factor in the training (as much as a couple hundred dollars in some areas) bike, insurance, and all the gear you will need any gas savings is going to be minimal if anything at all. Factor in maintenance and tires (which generally need to be replaced @4-5000 miles and cost @$100 each), and the odds are you will be out of pocket when all is said and done.

Most bikes get 30-45mpg city (some less and some more). You would have to ride a LOT of miles to make up for the above mentioned costs.

DO NOT listen to this guy. LOL

I've always wanted a motorcycle and one day found one locally for sell so I bought it (2009 Ninja 250R). At that time i know nothing about bikes or even how to ride. I had the guy delivered/ride it to my house and leave the bike there. Contrary to all the internet keyboard, you CAN learn how to ride on your own. You don't need to pay someone $300 for a class. It's like riding a pedal bike and if you know how to drive a manual transmission car it's even easier.

Of course buy something small to start (250cc) so it won't hurt your wallet when you drop it, and you WILL drop the bike. I dropped it twice going 5mph while practicing u-turns, I scratched the fender just a little bit but touch up paint took care of it. Took me about 2 days of practicing in a local middle school parking lot and i'm up and running. YouTube how-to helped out tremendously.

As for gear, just get a DOT approved helmet and wear some thick clothing such as jean and leather jacket. It will protect you from road rash at low speed crash or when you drop the bike (i dropped my bike at a stop light, it was embarrassing as hell lol) No need to go out and buy some ridiculous $300 helmet, $400 jacket, $100 gloves, etc... Although after riding for some time, I wanted to look snazzier by buying an Icon leather jacket/boot/gloves (Icon = $$$) Looking back at it, I don't really need to buy all those expensive gear and should have bought something cheaper.

The Ninja 250R is faster than 50% of the cars on the road today, it can out accelerate pretty much most of the cars you see. The only thing it won't do is go over 105mph LOL, it can sure get you from 0 to 80mph in no time. Don't worry about it being able to take you on the highway. I cruise on the highway at 70mph easily and if wanted, i can overtake/pass cars easily.

The honda rebel on the other hand is a little bit slower, it maxes out at about 80-85mph. I recommend you buy the new Honda CBR 250R. It's leap and bound better than the Current Ninja 250R due to it being fuel injected. It doesn't have any starting problem due to the weather usually associated with carburated bikes.

As far as fuel economy, I get an average of 60mpg on the Ninja 250R with me being hard on the gas accelerator. If I ride normal, I can get 65mpg.
The Honda CBR250R is rated at much higher MPG due to the efficiency of fuel injection. I have no doubt I can get 70mpg with it.
Since upgrading from a Ninja 250R (after riding it for 3,000 miles) to a 2009 Ninja ZX6R, My mpg dropped to 39 with mixed driving. But 39mpg and the ability to hit the 1/4 mile in 10 seconds is pretty good to me. The 600cc class is a beast, people couldn't ride it to its full potential at any given day but yet they are so eager to buy a 1000cc.

Maintenance on the bike is not much different from a car, if anything breaks it's cheaper to replace and you can do most of the work yourself. Trust me bikes are so much easier to work on than a car. You don't need an insane amount of tools required to work on a bike compare to a car. some basic screw drivers, a 10mm & 12mm socket, and hex screws and you can pretty much tear the entire bike down and strip the engine off the bike.

Last but not least, I don't know where you ride where tires only last 5k miles. That is absurd.


Don't listen to all the negative people on the internet, people have been learning how to ride by themselves for years before the MSF safety course was introduced, they ride long before $400 leather jacket, power ranger boots/gloves, etc...

Just take your time learning and start out slow. Rushing will get your hurt.
Happy riding

 

[Bateluer]

DO NOT listen to this guy. LOL

I've always wanted a motorcycle and one day found one locally for sell so I bought it (2009 Ninja 250R). At that time i know nothing about bikes or even how to ride. I had the guy delivered/ride it to my house and leave the bike there. Contrary to all the internet keyboard, you CAN learn how to ride on your own. You don't need to pay someone $300 for a class. It's like riding a pedal bike and if you know how to drive a manual transmission car it's even easier.

Of course buy something small to start (250cc) so it won't hurt your wallet when you drop it, and you WILL drop the bike. I dropped it twice going 5mph while practicing u-turns, I scratched the fender just a little bit but touch up paint took care of it. Took me about 2 days of practicing in a local middle school parking lot and i'm up and running. YouTube how-to helped out tremendously.

As for gear, just get a DOT approved helmet and wear some thick clothing such as jean and leather jacket. It will protect you from road rash at low speed crash or when you drop the bike (i dropped my bike at a stop light, it was embarrassing as hell lol) No need to go out and buy some ridiculous $300 helmet, $400 jacket, $100 gloves, etc... Although after riding for some time, I wanted to look snazzier by buying an Icon leather jacket/boot/gloves (Icon = $$$) Looking back at it, I don't really need to buy all those expensive gear and should have bought something cheaper.

The Ninja 250R is faster than 50% of the cars on the road today, it can out accelerate pretty much most of the cars you see. The only thing it won't do is go over 105mph LOL, it can sure get you from 0 to 80mph in no time. Don't worry about it being able to take you on the highway. I cruise on the highway at 70mph easily and if wanted, i can overtake/pass cars easily.

The honda rebel on the other hand is a little bit slower, it maxes out at about 80-85mph. I recommend you buy the new Honda CBR 250R. It's leap and bound better than the Current Ninja 250R due to it being fuel injected. It doesn't have any starting problem due to the weather usually associated with carburated bikes.

As far as fuel economy, I get an average of 60mpg on the Ninja 250R with me being hard on the gas accelerator. If I ride normal, I can get 65mpg.
The Honda CBR250R is rated at much higher MPG due to the efficiency of fuel injection. I have no doubt I can get 70mpg with it.
Since upgrading from a Ninja 250R (after riding it for 3,000 miles) to a 2009 Ninja ZX6R, My mpg dropped to 39 with mixed driving. But 39mpg and the ability to hit the 1/4 mile in 10 seconds is pretty good to me. The 600cc class is a beast, people couldn't ride it to its full potential at any given day but yet they are so eager to buy a 1000cc.

Maintenance on the bike is not much different from a car, if anything breaks it's cheaper to replace and you can do most of the work yourself. Trust me bikes are so much easier to work on than a car. You don't need an insane amount of tools required to work on a bike compare to a car. some basic screw drivers, a 10mm & 12mm socket, and hex screws and you can pretty much tear the entire bike down and strip the engine off the bike.

Last but not least, I don't know where you ride where tires only last 5k miles. That is absurd.


Don't listen to all the negative people on the internet, people have been learning how to ride by themselves for years before the MSF safety course was introduced, they ride long before $400 leather jacket, power ranger boots/gloves, etc...

Just take your time learning and start out slow. Rushing will get your hurt.
Happy riding

Good post, thank you.

I'm okay with getting some professional training, and I think it'd be a good idea to at least do an Introductory course before I even buy a bike. The Team Arizona offers this course for 65 dollars, 1.5hr of classwork, 2.5hours of bike time. They provide the safety gear and bike. Even the Beginner Rider course was only 265.

Considering that I could buy a brand new 250cc bike for half of a base model 4dr sedan, and pay it off with a 24 month loan and not stress the bank, I'm thinking i could save some money. Long term though.

 

[SooperDave]

You will not save money in the first season. The more you use it in place of your vehicle the faster your investment comes back. Most riders I know (and I know quite a few) use the "savings" as an justification to buy a bike for fun. No one that I know uses a bike strictly in place of a car. All the potential savings go out the window when you ride for fun. Nothing wrong with that. I've used more fuel on pleasure trips than I've ever saved not using my car. My wife has a GS500f that gets ~60mpg and I have no problem recomending that as a first bike provided you take the MSF course and are average size.

 

[SooperDave]

Good post, thank you.

I'm okay with getting some professional training, and I think it'd be a good idea to at least do an Introductory course before I even buy a bike. The Team Arizona offers this course for 65 dollars, 1.5hr of classwork, 2.5hours of bike time. They provide the safety gear and bike. Even the Beginner Rider course was only 265.

Considering that I could buy a brand new 250cc bike for half of a base model 4dr sedan, and pay it off with a 24 month loan and not stress the bank, I'm thinking i could save some money. Long term though.

As another poster said, you can learn without the MSF. I should know, I'm one of them. 27 years ago I bought a CB750. The engine came in a box. I knew little about engines, less about motorcycle engines and nothing about riding bikes. I figured it out with no internet. Now for the flip side: Because I just learned how a bike reacted but not why my skills did not advance nearly as fast as they could have. After few years I took a few riding clinic/track days and what a difference. I learned why it worked, not simply that it did. Even though I never wrecked, the MSF would have benefited me.
I've only known one person that said they didn't learn from the MSF, and that cocky dumbass wrecked in six months.
I highly recomend you take the MSF course.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Good post, thank you.

I'm okay with getting some professional training, and I think it'd be a good idea to at least do an Introductory course before I even buy a bike. The Team Arizona offers this course for 65 dollars, 1.5hr of classwork, 2.5hours of bike time. They provide the safety gear and bike. Even the Beginner Rider course was only 265.

Considering that I could buy a brand new 250cc bike for half of a base model 4dr sedan, and pay it off with a 24 month loan and not stress the bank, I'm thinking i could save some money. Long term though.

1) statistics show people who take MSF courses are less likely to be in accidents (partly, probably, because they're more careful to begin with)

2) jeans and other "thick" casual clothing won't save you from anything more than 5mph. jeans will shred up should you happen to start sliding on the ground. if motorcycle gear didn't work, professional riders wouldn't be wearing it.

bikes require more frequent maintenance than cars. for mine, it comes at minimum every 600 miles (cleaning and lubricating the chain). yes it's simple, but the point is that a bike will require more maintenance than a car.

what will you do when it rains? snows?

 

[soccerballtux]

You will NOT save money getting a bike.

Once you factor in the training (as much as a couple hundred dollars in some areas) bike, insurance, and all the gear you will need any gas savings is going to be minimal if anything at all. Factor in maintenance and tires (which generally need to be replaced @4-5000 miles and cost @$100 each), and the odds are you will be out of pocket when all is said and done.

Most bikes get 30-45mpg city (some less and some more). You would have to ride a LOT of miles to make up for the above mentioned costs.

any 250CC bike gets 70MPG, most maintenance you can do yourself, find a friend who has a bike to learn on and read the MSF 120pg manual they tell you everything they tell you in the coarse, gear is a one time cost.

Tires is one legitimate point though.

edit: oh and I pay $96/year for my sv1000s through Progressive. Bike insurance is cheap, not sure how people think it's expensive.

 

[soccerballtux]

Good post, thank you.

I'm okay with getting some professional training, and I think it'd be a good idea to at least do an Introductory course before I even buy a bike. The Team Arizona offers this course for 65 dollars, 1.5hr of classwork, 2.5hours of bike time. They provide the safety gear and bike. Even the Beginner Rider course was only 265.

Considering that I could buy a brand new 250cc bike for half of a base model 4dr sedan, and pay it off with a 24 month loan and not stress the bank, I'm thinking i could save some money. Long term though.

$65 that's not bad at all, when we're talking 265 I'd just read the PDF they tell you everything in the class in it, but $65 is not bad for learning to ride first time.

 

[soccerballtux]

1) statistics show people who take MSF courses are less likely to be in accidents (partly, probably, because they're more careful to begin with)

2) jeans and other "thick" casual clothing won't save you from anything more than 5mph. jeans will shred up should you happen to start sliding on the ground. if motorcycle gear didn't work, professional riders wouldn't be wearing it.

bikes require more frequent maintenance than cars. for mine, it comes at minimum every 600 miles (cleaning and lubricating the chain). yes it's simple, but the point is that a bike will require more maintenance than a car.

what will you do when it rains? snows?

dupont teflon lube costs $5 and there's no cleaning required. Get a $50 motorcycle rear wheel lift from Harbor Freight and it takes 10 seconds to relube and there's no grease flingoff, keeps the chain and front sprocket spik and span clean.

 

[Sinanju]

DO NOT listen to this guy. LOL

I've always wanted a motorcycle and one day found one locally for sell so I bought it (2009 Ninja 250R). At that time i know nothing about bikes or even how to ride. I had the guy delivered/ride it to my house and leave the bike there. Contrary to all the internet keyboard, you CAN learn how to ride on your own. You don't need to pay someone $300 for a class. It's like riding a pedal bike and if you know how to drive a manual transmission car it's even easier.

Of course buy something small to start (250cc) so it won't hurt your wallet when you drop it, and you WILL drop the bike. I dropped it twice going 5mph while practicing u-turns, I scratched the fender just a little bit but touch up paint took care of it. Took me about 2 days of practicing in a local middle school parking lot and i'm up and running. YouTube how-to helped out tremendously.

As for gear, just get a DOT approved helmet and wear some thick clothing such as jean and leather jacket. It will protect you from road rash at low speed crash or when you drop the bike (i dropped my bike at a stop light, it was embarrassing as hell lol) No need to go out and buy some ridiculous $300 helmet, $400 jacket, $100 gloves, etc... Although after riding for some time, I wanted to look snazzier by buying an Icon leather jacket/boot/gloves (Icon = $$$) Looking back at it, I don't really need to buy all those expensive gear and should have bought something cheaper.

The Ninja 250R is faster than 50% of the cars on the road today, it can out accelerate pretty much most of the cars you see. The only thing it won't do is go over 105mph LOL, it can sure get you from 0 to 80mph in no time. Don't worry about it being able to take you on the highway. I cruise on the highway at 70mph easily and if wanted, i can overtake/pass cars easily.

The honda rebel on the other hand is a little bit slower, it maxes out at about 80-85mph. I recommend you buy the new Honda CBR 250R. It's leap and bound better than the Current Ninja 250R due to it being fuel injected. It doesn't have any starting problem due to the weather usually associated with carburated bikes.

As far as fuel economy, I get an average of 60mpg on the Ninja 250R with me being hard on the gas accelerator. If I ride normal, I can get 65mpg.
The Honda CBR250R is rated at much higher MPG due to the efficiency of fuel injection. I have no doubt I can get 70mpg with it.
Since upgrading from a Ninja 250R (after riding it for 3,000 miles) to a 2009 Ninja ZX6R, My mpg dropped to 39 with mixed driving. But 39mpg and the ability to hit the 1/4 mile in 10 seconds is pretty good to me. The 600cc class is a beast, people couldn't ride it to its full potential at any given day but yet they are so eager to buy a 1000cc.

Maintenance on the bike is not much different from a car, if anything breaks it's cheaper to replace and you can do most of the work yourself. Trust me bikes are so much easier to work on than a car. You don't need an insane amount of tools required to work on a bike compare to a car. some basic screw drivers, a 10mm & 12mm socket, and hex screws and you can pretty much tear the entire bike down and strip the engine off the bike.

Last but not least, I don't know where you ride where tires only last 5k miles. That is absurd.


Don't listen to all the negative people on the internet, people have been learning how to ride by themselves for years before the MSF safety course was introduced, they ride long before $400 leather jacket, power ranger boots/gloves, etc...

Just take your time learning and start out slow. Rushing will get your hurt.
Happy riding

This.

motorcycle insurance is cheap if you ride a cruiser ( i dont know about CRs, never owned one) and your mpg is great.

as far as saving money
just do what he said. buy a GOOD helmet, a thick jacket, and a good pair of jeans will do. (all which you should already have minus the helmet).

alot of people associate high insurance cost with motorcycles because they think motorcycle riders drive like retards. Yes people do, but anyone with half a brain understands the risk of doing so and doesn't do it.

i've been riding since i was 17 and i've only dropped my bike a few time while learning and since then only once because some women wasn't looking and cut me off in a parking lot.

and learning is easy as long as you give yourself enough time and don't rush. I remember learning at a closed walmart parking lot.

 

[JulesMaximus]

this. a bike is a toy. a very, very fun toy

I ride mine to work whenever I can. Which means when it isn't too cold or too hot or I just don't want to take the car.

My bike gets 45mpg when I'm really romping on it and is capable of 50+mpg if I take it easy. I've put 15,000 miles on it in the last 3 years and am on my second front tire and third rear (Michelin Pilot Powers). It costs me $30/month to insure. Gear is mostly a one time fixed expense but it is worth getting good quality gear.

That said, bikes are easy to steal and they take a good bit of commitment to use as daily transportation. You will not be comfortable, your arse will hurt, your back, neck, and shoulders will hurt, your leg muscles will get a workout, you'll be cold, you'll be hot, you'll be completely exposed to the elements and vehicles around you.

My advice would be this: get into the sport because you want to and because you love it. Not to save money on gas.

 

[WT]

My advice would be this: get into the sport because you want to and because you love it. Not to save money on gas.

Well said !!! :thumbsup:

Weed out the weak ones before they start a fad.

 

[JulesMaximus]

This.

motorcycle insurance is cheap if you ride a cruiser ( i dont know about CRs, never owned one) and your mpg is great.

as far as saving money
just do what he said. buy a GOOD helmet, a thick jacket, and a good pair of jeans will do. (all which you should already have minus the helmet).

alot of people associate high insurance cost with motorcycles because they think motorcycle riders drive like retards. Yes people do, but anyone with half a brain understands the risk of doing so and doesn't do it.

i've been riding since i was 17 and i've only dropped my bike a few time while learning and since then only once because some women wasn't looking and cut me off in a parking lot.

and learning is easy as long as you give yourself enough time and don't rush. I remember learning at a closed walmart parking lot.

Will do what? Keep your legs warm? Jeans really provide almost no protection at all. Even the heaviest pair of denim jeans will rip open easily if you are riding above 10mph when you crash...same thing with the heavy jacket you recommend. Regular clothes are almost completely worthless as protective gear on a motorcycle.

I can't believe you didn't mention gloves or boots. You don't have to look like a power ranger to be protected.

You DON'T want to see pictures of what people look like after crashing while wearing jeans, no gloves, sneakers, etc. It isn't pretty. I do wear jeans on my bike every now and then but I won't recommend it to anyone...especially a new rider. They simply don't offer any protection whatsoever.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I highly recommend taking the MSF course too. It gives you a good solid basis for beginning your riding career and sets the foundation for good habits that will last you a lifetime if you keep riding.

Don't listen to anyone who would try to talk you out of taking this course. They are giving you bad advice.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Lots of FUD...



Choosing to ride a motorcycle based purely on saving money is a horrible horrible choice.

 

[RedRooster]

And its not even so much the road rash, that's a temporary thing that'll kind of heal and just look ugly.
It's the smashing of your knees/shins/hips on the pavement/curbs that will last a lifetime. I can still poke my knee with a nail and not even feel it, I'll never again ride without at least knee/shin/hip pads under my pants/jeans.

 

[pukemon]

To the OP: If you live in an area where you can ride all year round then it might make some sense, but if you have a winters where it snows or gets very cold and/or the roads freeze, or you have rainy seasons, you'll still want to have a car around.

I ride a 250 (A Suzuki TU250X) but I don't take mine on the Interstate. The only 250s that really would work would be the Kawasaki Ninja 250, and maybe the new Honda CBR250R, and the Hyosung 250, all of which are sportbikes which you'll either love or hate. Sportbikes cost a bit more to insure than cruisers. Standards are the cheapest to insure but there just aren't many out there. I pay $109 per year for full converage on my lil' bike. As far as mileage goes, my engine isn't fully broken in yet, but I get about a 200 mile range on 3 gallons, so around 66 mpg if that means anything.

Also you mentioned the Honda Rebel, and I can tell you that I'm not particularly tall (5'9") or heavy (175 lbs) and it's kind of a cramped fit even for me. I'm fairly sure that Honda designed the entire CMX (Rebel) line for 5 foot tall Japanese women. That said, if you take the MSF Basic Rider Course, there's a pretty good chance you'll be riding on one of those or a Honda Nighthawk 250, or maybe a Suzuki GZ250, or a Kawasaki Eliminator 125 (yuck). I took it because I thought it would be useful and fun and it was, and I'd recommend it. It cost $190 at my local community college.

 

[SViper]

I ride mine to work whenever I can. Which means when it isn't too cold or too hot or I just don't want to take the car.

My bike gets 45mpg when I'm really romping on it and is capable of 50+mpg if I take it easy. I've put 15,000 miles on it in the last 3 years and am on my second front tire and third rear (Michelin Pilot Powers). It costs me $30/month to insure. Gear is mostly a one time fixed expense but it is worth getting good quality gear.

That said, bikes are easy to steal and they take a good bit of commitment to use as daily transportation. You will not be comfortable, your arse will hurt, your back, neck, and shoulders will hurt, your leg muscles will get a workout, you'll be cold, you'll be hot, you'll be completely exposed to the elements and vehicles around you.

My advice would be this: get into the sport because you want to and because you love it. Not to save money on gas.

I completely agree with the bolded statement. You shouldn't be looking at a motorcycle unless you *want* to ride a motorcycle. Riding a motorcycle is a physically and mentally demanding task. Everyone isn't cut out for it.

Also, it isn't a good idea to have your motorcycle as your sole means of transportation. Riding in the rain/snow is not fun. What will you do when you need to go to the grocery store? If you do get a motorcycle, I would suggest getting an old beater car to use in bad weather, grocery store runs, etc.

As far as bike models, I personally ride a Honda VTX 1300C (it's a cruiser). From my phone app, my 3 month average MPG is 44. Also for my particular model bike, it really doesn't require a whole lot of maintenance. It is shaft-driven and liquid cooled, so no checking/lubing chains for me.

You can get some even better fuel economy on a smaller bike (Ninja 250, Honda Rebel, etc) and still have a top speed faster than the interstate speed limit. I won't have to change tires as often as a sport bike, but I would be lucky to get 8,000-10,000 miles out of a set. Rear tire alone costs about $200. Maintenance is cheaper if you do it yourself. Plenty of walk-throughs on the net for instructions.

I ride because I enjoy riding. Saving money on gas is just a nice perk.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

I was thinking about taking a riding class this spring, any suggestions? It can be had for $250 bucks, and the when you pass you automatically get the endorsement on your license. from what I hear the test is way easier than the test they give you at the dmv.


Should I get a cheap ass scooter to practice on first?

 

[JulesMaximus]

I was thinking about taking a riding class this spring, any suggestions? It can be had for $250 bucks, and the when you pass you automatically get the endorsement on your license. from what I hear the test is way easier than the test they give you at the dmv.


Should I get a cheap ass scooter to practice on first?

No, there is no need to do this. If you can ride a bicycle you can take the MSF course. Buy a bike after you pass the course and get your license.