Do you think bin Laden was responsible for the attacks on 9/11/01?

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Anarchist420

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Truthers, the libertarian / liberal equivalent of the birthers. /facepalm
I'm not a truther because I realize the whole truth can never be found and that even if the whole truth could be found then the deceptions couldn't go away.

Bush didn't even know what was going on. I don't even know if Dick Cheney knows the whole truth. Netanyahu didn't know the whole truth even though he supported the unionism that the attacks resulted in. IF only one person knows most of what happened, then I'd imagine it's Obama because he has access to all the records and intelligence collected since then and they're all in front of him at once... problem is that Obama can keep secrets too well and he doesn't slip up like Bush did. We learned a lot more from Bush's actions and what he said about it than we did from Obama. I also suspect that Obama knew Bin Laden was dead when he ran in 2008.
 

bignateyk

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lolwat? His cause certainly was. Whether he directly planned and ordered the attacks could be questioned I guess, but I'm sure he had some hand in it.
 

zinfamous

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zombie Hitler did it.

zombie Stalin flew the plane into the north tower, and zombie Kruschev flew into the South tower.

Unsurprisingly, zombie Mussolini was in charge of the plane that crashed in PA.
 

airdata

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All the sarcastic remarks really reassure me about my countrymen.

Since nobody gives 2 shits that we invaded and killed upwards of a million innocent people in iraq over make believe wmd, I think it'd be safe to assume that people also no longer care about 911.

I think the government could openly admit to having set it up today, and most american's wouldn't give a shit.
 

JEDIYoda

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In before Juror No. 8 voices his support for this thread by Anarchist........
 

JEDIYoda

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aww... looky there... statements of fact met with ad hominem. Thus is the way of P&N.
In this case its true...you aren`t that special.....lol....change your name to AirHead and you might be special..lolol
 

Juror No. 8

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Here is where you missed the mark.

We did not occupy the nations we invaded. Nor did we gain any meaningful resources from the invasion.

The wars had no purpose in your context.

LOL. We're still officially in Afghanistan, and we occupied Iraq with the U.S. military for over a half a decade. In their place we left U.S. mercs/contractors. Iraq is still essentially occupied, just unofficially. We let the puppet governments we installed do the occupying for us.

As for the resources, we don't just go in there and grab them. That's not how it works. Instead, the resources have been opened up to discovery, development, and recovery by big Western multinational corporations, which is who we fought the wars on behalf of in the first place. Not to mention all the billions of dollars in contracts to rebuild the infrastructure we destroyed.

I can't be any more on the mark. The wars served plenty of purpose, you're just in denial.
 

WelshBloke

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aww... looky there... statements of fact met with ad hominem. Thus is the way of P&N.

It's not an ad hom at all. I'm always just surprised when people say that the government needs to prove everything to everybody's standards.

You tell me why you're so special that the government needs to prove things to your standards then.
 

zinfamous

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It's not an ad hom at all. I'm always just surprised when people say that the government needs to prove everything to everybody's standards.

You tell me why you're so special that the government needs to prove things to your standards then.

people mistake "fairness" for a misguided belief that there are multiple sides to all stories, that all sides and perspectives are equally valid.

this is, of course, absurd. This is why Fox News is on its own, for the most part, as they are forced to assume bias in many places were it doesn't exist, create arguments that do not exist, and give equal thrift to crackpottery (birthers/benghazi-ites), as if doing so was a noble mark of fairness.


You're correct, people and groups don't generally have any need or responsibility to humor the false and improbable notions of the fringe peanut gallery, as doing so, if only to refute them, would lend credence to their assumption that they actually have an argument to stand on.
 

Juror No. 8

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Is there even one good reason anyone should believe the U.S. government told the truth about 9/11?

I can't think of one.
 

buckshot24

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As for the resources, we don't just go in there and grab them. That's not how it works. Instead, the resources have been opened up to discovery, development, and recovery by big Western multinational corporations, which is who we fought the wars on behalf of in the first place. Not to mention all the billions of dollars in contracts to rebuild the infrastructure we destroyed.
Plus there was evidence that Sadaam had that the Holocaust didn't happen. We had to go in there and secure it before the world knew the truth. Allied Bombing raids essentially killed 6 million Jews by causing starvation. Before the allies started bombing the Jews were essentially living in resort level accommodations. Hitler interned them for their own protection.

Also Sadaam's father was on the grassy knoll on orders by J. Edgar Hoover and when Sadaam had Hoover killed 9 years later the conspirators (The Bushes) thought that was the end of it. Sadaam's father gave him some damning evidence on his death bed that would flip the military industrial complex from it's perch atop the power structure in the new world order. LBJ was from Texas and Bush knew that the country would never accept a president from Texas unless one was installed first. Bush SR also needed JFK killed to hide his love affair with Hoover as JFK wasn't playing ball with Hoover's regular black mail attempts by threatening Hoover with his own blackmail attempt.

Zapruder was actually an agent of the Shaw of Iran contracted by Fidel Castro to kill John Connally. Connally never spoke of this because the Illuminati had dirt on an affair he had with Jack Ruby. Ruby never got over his obsession for the "barrel chested" Governor (there was a love note to Connally from Ruby sratched into the wall of the cell Ruby was held where Ruby refers to him as "barrel chested", which has been covered up despite at least 3 freedom of information act requests) , he had a deep seeded hatred for his wife. Ruby hired Oswald to kill his wife, Idanell. The whole thing went array when zapruder's camera (which was really an advanced cancer ray provided by the Russians) reflected the light into Oswald's scope making him miss the intended target of Mrs. Connally and shooting the president instead.

Ruby was livid with his hired gun and was let in to the parking garage by none other than the FBI to kill Oswald. Little did Ruby know that Oswald would have died of Cancer within 3 years from exposure of the Zapruder ray. Ruby was actually in Dealey Plaza fairly close to Zapruder and received a lethal dosage of the cancer radiation meant for Mrs. Connally.

The interesting part is that Ruby was allowed a conjugal visit with the resistance's hand chosen seed bearer. Her name was "Ms. Jones". She consummated with Ruby in a ritualistic ceremony and she secured his seed. She then placed the seed in a North Korean cryostasis container until the time was right.

In the early summer of 1973 Ms. Jones was instructed to place the seed. In nine months she had a baby boy. She called him Alex.
 

Capt Caveman

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Is there even one good reason anyone should believe the U.S. government told the truth about 9/11?

I can't think of one.

Is there even one good piece of evidence that the U.S. government didn't tell the truth about 9/11?

Nobody can provide one.
 

Lobotomized

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tHE ONLY NON FAKE VIDEOS ARE THE ONES YOU AGREE WITH . dO LOOK AT SOME OF PICTURES WITH OBAMA AND FARHER IN THEM . oNE WERE HE HAS HIS ARM AROUND OBAMA . NOTICE THE DARK SPOTS . Find THE SAME PICTURE WITHOUT THE DARK SPOTS AND YOU WILL SEE CLEARLY That picture was photo chopped. along with many others . These pics all came from Obama . Also the basketball team he was suppose to be on The big island . None of the other players who are still alive recall Obama being on the team by any name . Now why would those players lie?. As I told you befor I belong to an organization . We have videos of one of our members being murdered at the age of 43. No heart attack . Video isn't fake . We all recieved the video at the same time . But now is not the time to expose the murder for what it was . All our members have camerias on them .
Stop posting fake pictures and videos.
Hey...wait a minute...our names are mixed up
I'm you and you're me!!
WTH!!
 

Matt1970

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All the sarcastic remarks really reassure me about my countrymen.

Since nobody gives 2 shits that we invaded and killed upwards of a million innocent people in iraq over make believe wmd, I think it'd be safe to assume that people also no longer care about 911.

I think the government could openly admit to having set it up today, and most american's wouldn't give a shit.

Truthers, ignoring the 99.9% of available evidence on almost every topic they can find.
 

NTMBK

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Plus there was evidence that Sadaam had that the Holocaust didn't happen. We had to go in there and secure it before the world knew the truth. Allied Bombing raids essentially killed 6 million Jews by causing starvation. Before the allies started bombing the Jews were essentially living in resort level accommodations. Hitler interned them for their own protection.

Also Sadaam's father was on the grassy knoll on orders by J. Edgar Hoover and when Sadaam had Hoover killed 9 years later the conspirators (The Bushes) thought that was the end of it. Sadaam's father gave him some damning evidence on his death bed that would flip the military industrial complex from it's perch atop the power structure in the new world order. LBJ was from Texas and Bush knew that the country would never accept a president from Texas unless one was installed first. Bush SR also needed JFK killed to hide his love affair with Hoover as JFK wasn't playing ball with Hoover's regular black mail attempts by threatening Hoover with his own blackmail attempt.

Zapruder was actually an agent of the Shaw of Iran contracted by Fidel Castro to kill John Connally. Connally never spoke of this because the Illuminati had dirt on an affair he had with Jack Ruby. Ruby never got over his obsession for the "barrel chested" Governor (there was a love note to Connally from Ruby sratched into the wall of the cell Ruby was held where Ruby refers to him as "barrel chested", which has been covered up despite at least 3 freedom of information act requests) , he had a deep seeded hatred for his wife. Ruby hired Oswald to kill his wife, Idanell. The whole thing went array when zapruder's camera (which was really an advanced cancer ray provided by the Russians) reflected the light into Oswald's scope making him miss the intended target of Mrs. Connally and shooting the president instead.

Ruby was livid with his hired gun and was let in to the parking garage by none other than the FBI to kill Oswald. Little did Ruby know that Oswald would have died of Cancer within 3 years from exposure of the Zapruder ray. Ruby was actually in Dealey Plaza fairly close to Zapruder and received a lethal dosage of the cancer radiation meant for Mrs. Connally.

The interesting part is that Ruby was allowed a conjugal visit with the resistance's hand chosen seed bearer. Her name was "Ms. Jones". She consummated with Ruby in a ritualistic ceremony and she secured his seed. She then placed the seed in a North Korean cryostasis container until the time was right.

In the early summer of 1973 Ms. Jones was instructed to place the seed. In nine months she had a baby boy. She called him Alex.

This is the finest thing ever written in this forum.
 

Juror No. 8

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Truthers, ignoring the 99.9% of available evidence on almost every topic they can find.

The problem is, you and the other government truthers don't have any evidence, other then what the government decided to let you see.

Not very credible. Let me know when you've got something more.
 

Juror No. 8

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Plus there was evidence that Sadaam had that the Holocaust didn't happen. We had to go in there and secure it before the world knew the truth. Allied Bombing raids essentially killed 6 million Jews by causing starvation. Before the allies started bombing the Jews were essentially living in resort level accommodations. Hitler interned them for their own protection.

Also Sadaam's father was on the grassy knoll on orders by J. Edgar Hoover and when Sadaam had Hoover killed 9 years later the conspirators (The Bushes) thought that was the end of it. Sadaam's father gave him some damning evidence on his death bed that would flip the military industrial complex from it's perch atop the power structure in the new world order. LBJ was from Texas and Bush knew that the country would never accept a president from Texas unless one was installed first. Bush SR also needed JFK killed to hide his love affair with Hoover as JFK wasn't playing ball with Hoover's regular black mail attempts by threatening Hoover with his own blackmail attempt.

Zapruder was actually an agent of the Shaw of Iran contracted by Fidel Castro to kill John Connally. Connally never spoke of this because the Illuminati had dirt on an affair he had with Jack Ruby. Ruby never got over his obsession for the "barrel chested" Governor (there was a love note to Connally from Ruby sratched into the wall of the cell Ruby was held where Ruby refers to him as "barrel chested", which has been covered up despite at least 3 freedom of information act requests) , he had a deep seeded hatred for his wife. Ruby hired Oswald to kill his wife, Idanell. The whole thing went array when zapruder's camera (which was really an advanced cancer ray provided by the Russians) reflected the light into Oswald's scope making him miss the intended target of Mrs. Connally and shooting the president instead.

Ruby was livid with his hired gun and was let in to the parking garage by none other than the FBI to kill Oswald. Little did Ruby know that Oswald would have died of Cancer within 3 years from exposure of the Zapruder ray. Ruby was actually in Dealey Plaza fairly close to Zapruder and received a lethal dosage of the cancer radiation meant for Mrs. Connally.

The interesting part is that Ruby was allowed a conjugal visit with the resistance's hand chosen seed bearer. Her name was "Ms. Jones". She consummated with Ruby in a ritualistic ceremony and she secured his seed. She then placed the seed in a North Korean cryostasis container until the time was right.

In the early summer of 1973 Ms. Jones was instructed to place the seed. In nine months she had a baby boy. She called him Alex.

LOL, didn't read.
 
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