Question Do you think GPU stock/prices will get back to normal before end of the year?

[Coyle]

I'm looking for a GPU to finish my build but the deal with GPUs right now reminds me of when I was trying to get a PSU, but maybe worse. Wondering if stock and prices will be getting back to normal before end of this year?

 

[Thunder 57]

The GTX, GX2, and Ultra were the top end cards during the 8XXX and 9XXX Nvidia series and they were more expensive. The GT version was a mid tier card. The pricing scheme for the majority of product releases has been the same from Nvidia for almost 20 years now. The only exception to that was the recent 2XXX series. Seriously even the pricing was this way back when 3dfx was in the game. My Obsidian card was $1000 back then which was 2x Voodoo chips in SLI on a single card. That was the big dog of the 1997 as an example. I think people are looking at the past with rose colored glasses if they think video card pricing has had any significant changes in decades for the pricing tier lists. As I said, there was ONE exception to that with the 2XXX release from Nvidia because AMD had nothing during that cycle.

The 8800 GTX launched for $449. Just under a year later, it launched the "mid tier" 8800 GT for half the price. The performance? See for yourself.

I realize that was 13 years ago but I'd still gladly pay $500 for a mythical 2021 8800 GT equivalent.

 

[HumblePie]

OH SHIT MAN. THIS HYPER-INFLATION IS SERIOUS BIDNESS. SODA PRICES WENT UP $1! BETTER INVEST IN BITCOIN!





/s (only semi though)

I just know it's the start. My friend who is a beer distributor says prices on all beer has been going up and due for another hike increase next week. Some brands are up $2.

$1 for a single item may not seem like much on a $4 item... bit it is a 25% increase that is basically going to be applied to everything across the board very soon. So your $200 grocery trip goes to $250. It starts adding up real fast.

 

[HumblePie]

The 8800 GTX launched for $449. Just under a year later, it launched the "mid tier" 8800 GT for half the price. The performance? See for yourself.

Yah, Nvidia wasn't as good at separating tiers by performance as they were by price. I was just talking the pricing aspect of things. The GT was an excellent bang for the buck at the time. Still the GTX at higher resolutions, which shows the CPU bottlenecks were bad at the time, had a much greater performance increase over the GT cards. It matches up with most of the card tier performance separations of almost every generation. Also, the GT was a refresh to the GTS as the Ultra was a refresh to the GTX a year later. Kind of like how the Supers are with the last few generations. It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

 

[MrTeal]

The 8800 GTX launched for $449. Just under a year later, it launched the "mid tier" 8800 GT for half the price. The performance? See for yourself.

I realize that was 13 years ago but I'd still gladly pay $500 for a mythical 2021 8800 GT equivalent.

That looks about the same as the performance difference between the $1500 3090 and $700 3080.
This generation has even better midrange card value!

 

[Thunder 57]

That looks about the same as the performance difference between the $1500 3090 and $700 3080.
This generation has even better midrange card value!

I hope you're trying to be funny. Everyone knows the 3900 isn't really a gaming card. And another difference is that back then you could actually buy those cards.

 

[Puffnstuff]

When I saw this I LOL'd. Look at the premium they are asking for....just for being in stock right now.

 

[CP5670]

The 6800 XT might have the worst markups of all the new cards. Microcenter is doing the same thing.

In the past there wasn't such a big price gap between the top card and the next best one. Although back then the top card had less clear advantages as well (like the 3090's extra memory), and sometimes differed only in clocks so there was no difference at all after OCing.

My Obsidian card was $1000 back then which was 2x Voodoo chips in SLI on a single card. That was the big dog of the 1997 as an example.

That was an awesome card. I recall the Voodoo2 version was more like $650 though, as opposed to $300 for a single card.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Worst part of this for me is that the other morning I woke up to this:


So I drained the caps and it went away, however, I immediately started looking for another card to replace my GTX 1080 amp which I know will completely fail soon. I've seen crazy prices but I'm hopeful that I'll be able to pick up a reference card at msrp soon.

Now it's down to a race to whomever can provide that card first and it's been a very long time since I've felt that way. Competition is a great thing if we can ever get any stock.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

VR seems like the best use case for new cards at this point, and some of the VR stuff feels really new and fresh to me the way regular 3D graphics felt at one point. However, PC VR is niche to begin with and most people will use Oculus for it.

As someone who just finished a Star Wars Squadrons playthrough fully in VR, I do agree it's a so much more transformative experience than RT on a monitor. It doesn't look like RT will be taking place in VR anytime soon, either.

I was looking forward to playing Half Life Alyx on the major upgrade I had planned for this month, but it looks like I'll have to settle with my "old" hardware.
Regarding Oculus, I don't know how much market they're losing due to the recent mandatory account attachments to "real" facebook profiles. If it's anything like what we're seeing in whatsapp, they could be on a crazy downward spiral.

 

[PingSpike]

So, people are selling pictures of video card boxes now? Is this what we've come to?

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/AMD-GIGABYT...596822&hash=item59640b6769:g:wY0AAOSwFdRgF~YO

Pretty sure these are bot bait listings. I remember they used to be sneaky with the titles and descriptions to trick people but they're so obvious their only use has to be to fool a machine into buying a box.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Worst part of this for me is that the other morning I woke up to this:
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So I drained the caps and it went away, however, I immediately started looking for another card to replace my GTX 1080 amp which I know will completely fail soon. I've seen crazy prices but I'm hopeful that I'll be able to pick up a reference card at msrp soon.

Now it's down to a race to whomever can provide that card first and it's been a very long time since I've felt that way. Competition is a great thing if we can ever get any stock.

-That's the nightmare scenario for a lot of people right now.

An upgrade from my 980Ti to something 2080Ti range would be nice for the right price, but I can play just about anything with some reduced settings reasonably well still. My hope was to land that upgrade somewhere in the $300 - $400 territory with a deeply discounted (used) 2080Ti or 2080S card (lol not happening now).

However, if it were to crap out *knocks on wood* then I'd basically be staring either a sidegrade to similar performance with something like a 1660S, a massive downgrade by throwing my old HD7950 or gaming only on my GTX 1050 laptop, or just straight up taking a long vacation from PC gaming.

I do not envy you right now.

 

[CP5670]

As someone who just finished a Star Wars Squadrons playthrough fully in VR, I do agree it's a so much more transformative experience than RT on a monitor. It doesn't look like RT will be taking place in VR anytime soon, either.

I was looking forward to playing Half Life Alyx on the major upgrade I had planned for this month, but it looks like I'll have to settle with my "old" hardware.
Regarding Oculus, I don't know how much market they're losing due to the recent mandatory account attachments to "real" facebook profiles. If it's anything like what we're seeing in whatsapp, they could be on a crazy downward spiral.

HL Alyx is much less demanding than SW Squadrons and should work fine on an older card. It's one of the few games that runs well at the default 6400x3200 resolution on my headset, although it's quite vram hungry and often uses over 20GB. Squadrons needs to be run at a lower resolution and with settings turned down to get 90fps consistently. Flight Simulator is worth checking out as well.

I would not use Oculus myself, but most of the new game development is focused there and is being bankrolled by FB. I don't think PC VR will have any more VR-only AAA games outside of Oculus, only sim-type games that work in both VR and flatscreen.

 

[DeathReborn]

-That's the nightmare scenario for a lot of people right now.

An upgrade from my 980Ti to something 2080Ti range would be nice for the right price, but I can play just about anything with some reduced settings reasonably well still. My hope was to land that upgrade somewhere in the $300 - $400 territory with a deeply discounted (used) 2080Ti or 2080S card (lol not happening now).

However, if it were to crap out *knocks on wood* then I'd basically be staring either a sidegrade to similar performance with something like a 1660S, a massive downgrade by throwing my old HD7950 or gaming only on my GTX 1050 laptop, or just straight up taking a long vacation from PC gaming.

I do not envy you right now.

I was in a similar pickle with my 5700 losing it's outputs. I had to use a contact at a supplier to source a 3080 @ MSRP as Sapphire wouldn't/couldn't send me a RAM replacement due to no stock (in a legal dispute with them now) & scalpers/no stock was in full force. I did a full system refresh a a couple of months before Zen3 launched so snagged a 3600X for £150 (non X price at the time) along with the 5700 Nitro. If I had to downgrade (instead of 3080) I would have been forced back to a R9 290 4GB... on a 4K display, ouch.

Am probably gonna go full PCIe5, DDR5 etc on next upgrade and keep that for 3-4 years I hope, going by 2020 & 2021 I don't expect stock to be normal until 22+.

 

[mohit9206]

Yes I think GPU stock/prices will get back to normal before end of the year.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I had a zotac 3090 trinity in my basket late last night for $2100 w/tax and then dumped it. LOL I checked again this morning and it was sold out so peeps are buying them and that time the manufacturer was doing the scalping from their own store.

 

[jpiniero]

Depends on crypto. Crypto prices stay high I wouldn't expect much to change.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I'm watching the AMD store where product prices are their MSRP so if I can score a card directly from them that would be sweet. Otherwise, I'm watching a live bot streaming US vendor stock and prices in realtime.

 

[NomanA]

On another note, I was just checking out GPU prices today out of curiosity. RX 5700 / RX 5700 XT are selling for $700+ on ebay! When did this start? I got one around May for just over $300. And by Just over I mean $310-315.

This happened around the same time as Ethereum prices shot up. Used 580s are selling for $300-350 these days.

This madness will only end when Ethereum falls back below $500 (hopefully soon), or when the difficulty of mining increases threefold at current price level (which may take longer).

 

[MrTeal]

Current hashrate is 370TH/s, or the equivalent of 3.7M 3080s. If the valuation doesn't changing mining will still be profitable even if miners absorb every GPU produced this year.

 

[undertaker101]

If you had an offer to swap a 3080 for a 3090 for around 600 would guys take it? 🤔

 

[HumblePie]

If you had an offer to swap a 3080 for a 3090 for around 600 would guys take it? 🤔

depends on which ones involved and if you rather have a 3090 or 3080

 

[SteveGrabowski]

If you had an offer to swap a 3080 for a 3090 for around 600 would guys take it? 🤔

$600 seems steep for 10% to 15% higher framerate at 4k, especially if you lose warranty support as part of the deal.

 

[undertaker101]

$600 seems steep for 10% to 15% higher framerate at 4k, especially if you lose warranty support as part of the deal.

Will exchange receipts and the trade will be local so I think warranty should still be attainable by both parties..anyone know how Nvidia RMA works? It would be going from my Zotac to a FE but reports of fan and coil noise on the FE are giving me pause, the trade is generous but not sure worth the effort. On the flipside if I get that 5k UW from Dell or LG, 10 GB may start hurtin'...decisions.

 

[CP5670]

I would do it but only because of VR, where the difference is more like 20%.

 

[Thunder 57]

If you had an offer to swap a 3080 for a 3090 for around 600 would guys take it? 🤔

Not a chance.