Do you think pedophilia is always wrong?

thirtythree

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Say a person is attracted to kids, but he doesn't know why, and he doesn't act on his impulses... would you consider him a pervert? The reason I ask is because I wonder how one becomes a pedophile. Is it just the way a person is, like homosexuals for example?
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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As long as they keep it to themselves and don't let anyone know about it, it shouldn't be a problem
 

Rage187

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I'm sure I could commit mass murder if I didnt control myself.

Does that make me a murderer?
 

fredtam

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Above 13 (below that you are just kind of sick) it is society that deems you a pedophile but not really nature. To answer your question yes in todays society I would think you were a pervert. However given the actions of 13 year olds today my mind is slowly changing but not really since the mind/ emotion doesn't mature as fast.
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
As long as they keep it to themselves and don't let anyone know about it, it shouldn't be a problem
If they don't let anyone know about it, obviously, but if you did know about, would you be concerned?
Originally posted by: Rage187
I'm sure I could commit mass murder if I didnt control myself.

Does that make me a murderer?
Uhh... so if you're attracted to men throughout your whole life but never court men, you're not gay?
 

vi edit

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Conjecture on my part -

Pedophilia is a disease or a mental disorder.

Homosexuality is not with no bond between the two.

Consentual sex between adults is fine. There is a serious mental breakdown going on when an adult is trying to solicit sexual services from a child. And I'm not talking about a 20 year old going after a 16 or 17 year old. We're talking full grown adults going after children that are unable to comprehend what exactly is going on.

As far as not acting on it, is it illegal, no. Is it unhealthy, yes.
 

Rage187

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Originally posted by: thirtythree


Uhh... so if you're attracted to men throughout your whole life but never court men, you're not gay?

Unless you commit a physical act of homosexuality, no you would not be gay.
 

Viper GTS

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The problem is that pedophilia tends to lead to behavior that harms children in some way. Even something as simple as child porn (simple in the grand scale of what a pedophile COULD be doing).

I wouldn't say that pedophilia is inherently wrong, but what an individual chooses to do with that could definitely be.

I can't believe I'm defending pedophilia, but I kinda feel for somebody who was abused & now has abuser urges. That does not, however, give one free license to abuse. Empathy, perhaps pity, for the causes but we cannot condone the actions.

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bleeb

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: bleeb
Yes. Pedophile is ALWAYS wrong.
But what if they never act on those impulses? Should we lock people up for their thoughts?

If they are looking at kiddy pr0n... yes. if they think about it, there is no real way to prosecute them, so I suppose you can't.
 
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I agree that you can't compare pedophilia to homosexuality. But given that it's rare for a teenager to be a virgin on his/her eighteenth birthday, I'm thinking the legal age will go down to 16 or something.
 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: bleeb
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: bleeb
Yes. Pedophile is ALWAYS wrong.
But what if they never act on those impulses? Should we lock people up for their thoughts?

If they are looking at kiddy pr0n... yes. if they think about it, there is no real way to prosecute them, so I suppose you can't.
Well yeah, as kiddy porn is illegal. But I calling that part of acting on their impulses.
 

OS

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i wonder how japanese society gets by with their heavy school girl fetish/prostitution/etc.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: hotchilisauce
I agree that you can't compare pedophilia to homosexuality. But given that it's rare for a teenager to be a virgin on his/her eighteenth birthday, I'm thinking the legal age will go down to 16 or something.

It's rare for an 18 year old to be a virgin?

Methinks you're pulling this outta your ass, I'd be surprised if it was even as low as 50%.

http://www.cdc.gov/HealthyYout...bs/pdfs/trends-sex.pdf

There's some real numbers for you. Granted there is a four year range of surveyed ages, but I would still hardly call it "rare" for an 18 year old to be a virgin.

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vi edit

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: bleeb
Yes. Pedophile is ALWAYS wrong.
But what if they never act on those impulses? Should we lock people up for their thoughts?

It's a VERY grey area.

Plotting the murder of somebody is illegal.
Plotting to blow up a building is illegal.
Plotting to commit a corporate scandal is illegal.

Writing in your journal about how you'd like to perform fellatio on the 7 year old next door is.....??????

 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: Rage187
Originally posted by: thirtythree


Uhh... so if you're attracted to men throughout your whole life but never court men, you're not gay?

Unless you commit a physical act of homosexuality, no you would not be gay.
Sexual orientation generally refers to feelings and self-concept; a person's sexual behavior may or may not reflect his/her sexual orientation. For example, sexual abstinence is independent of sexual orientation in this sense, and thus one may speak of a heterosexual virgin or a homosexual celibate.
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Eh? That's always been my view of it.
 

Rage187

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Originally posted by: vi_edit

Writing in your journal about how you'd like to perform fellatio on the 7 year old next door is.....??????



Protected by the first amendment, as sick as it might be.
 

konakona

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i view homosexuality, pedophilia and incest all at the same level. as long as they keep it to themselves, it really doesn do harm to anyone outside of it. but that doesnt change the fact i am personally disturbed (bet i am not the only one either) by those unconventional sexual ideals/acts.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: Rage187
Originally posted by: vi_edit

Writing in your journal about how you'd like to perform fellatio on the 7 year old next door is.....??????

Protected by the first amendment, as sick as it might be.

I don't know if it was ever appealed or not, but a man was arrested a few years back for something similar to what I wrote above. He wrote in a journal about very explicit things he would like to do to some young boys that he was close to. The journal was discovered and the neighbors wanted him put away.

I'm trying to find links for it to get the specific details on the case and the outcome what all went down.
 

fredtam

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I'm not sure what your asking really. I see plenty of <18 year old girls at the mall that I wouldn't mind bending over. Nature makes me feel that way. Society keeps me from acting on it for the best interest of civilization.
 

Insane3D

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Well, one thing that bugs me is no one seems to consider how kids dress today. I was watching that Dateline thing the other night, and it struck me that no one mentioned how girls dress these days. Everywhere you go nowadays, you see young girls, say 14-17 wearing ultra tight tops, pants that barely cover their a$$, and even have the tatoos at the base of their back. I often wonder if the apparent increase in pedophilia lately has something to do with that.

I am not excusing pedophilia in any way...just something I've often wondered.
 

OrganizedChaos

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i really don't see anything wrong with it. so what if someone likes little kids, unless there out commiting sexual assault and what not i don't see the big deal. so what if a 80yr old man likes a 10 yr old, maybe the 10yr likes the 80yr old man. what people do in there bedrooms is there own concern.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...ional/main634525.shtml example of what i'm talking about. i think thats pretty screwed up that she had to go to jail
 
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