Do you think pedophilia is always wrong?

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: fredtam
I'm not sure what your asking really. I see plenty of <18 year old girls at the mall that I wouldn't mind bending over. Nature makes me feel that way. Society keeps me from acting on it for the best interest of civilization.

Exactly. There is a difference between looking and acting upon. Sometimes I'll find myself checking out this girl, and realize she is probably only 16-18. I don't really feel guilty though because it's natural to be attracted to the opposite sex. The difference is if you act on it.

Also, I don't view someone who has consensual sex with a teenager above 15-16 or so the same as some sicko who is into 5 year olds.

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: Syringer
No, there are some hot 5-year-olds out there.

Do spiders really get that old?

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Well, one thing that bugs me is no one seems to consider how kids dress today. I was watching that Dateline thing the other night, and it struck me that no one mentioned how girls dress these days. Everywhere you go nowadays, you see young girls, say 14-17 wearing ultra tight tops, pants that barely cover their a$$, and even have the tatoos at the base of their back. I often wonder if the apparent increase in pedophilia lately has something to do with that.

I am not excusing pedophilia in any way...just something I've often wondered.

To me that isn't *really* pedophilia. Legally yes. But if an early teen is as developed physically as an 18 or 20 year old it's very difficult to not turn off the hormones...it's just a natural reaction.

An adult wanting to molest a pre-teen child is really the bread and butter pedodphilia. There's a major screw loose up the head somewhere to make a person react in the same way to that as you do to a well developed 16 year old.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Well, one thing that bugs me is no one seems to consider how kids dress today. I was watching that Dateline thing the other night, and it struck me that no one mentioned how girls dress these days. Everywhere you go nowadays, you see young girls, say 14-17 wearing ultra tight tops, pants that barely cover their a$$, and even have the tatoos at the base of their back. I often wonder if the apparent increase in pedophilia lately has something to do with that.

I am not excusing pedophilia in any way...just something I've often wondered.

You aren't the only one.

There seems to be a trend towards that, &amp; it's rather disturbing.

Yes, girls have all the necessary things to be attractive at that age. Curves, breasts, etc. No, the world doesn't need to see it.

Yes men need to direct their sexual urges to appropriate outlets, but 14 year olds running around with thongs hanging out of their pants &amp; cleavage popping out of their shirts doesn't help the situation. As mid to late teens (as vi pointed out) they are developed as much as an adult (or nearly so), so the attraction is natural (ie not pedophilia).

What's really disturbing is the 9 year olds running around like that.

Who the hell buys their 9 year old a thong?

Viper GTS

 

[Insane3D]

Yeah. I have season tickets to the local AHL team up here. On Friday and Saturday night games, the place is packed, and everywhere you look are teenage girls running around with thongs showing, boobs popping out of their tops, etc. I don;t really mind personally since most of them are cute and it adds to the scenery.

However, I often wonder about what is in the head of the parents who are letting these girls go out like that. I'm not the type to rant about kids today and what have you, but it's often kind of scary watching all these drunk guys drooling all over them. Of course, the girls seem to like this.

 

[OS]

Once, while driving around, I saw a bunch of skanky looking girls with backpacks and I was like, there isn't a college around here, what gives. And then I realized they were coming from the new high school a couple blocks away.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: OS
Once, while driving around, I saw a bunch of skanky looking girls with backpacks and I was like, there isn't a college around here, what gives. And then I realized they were coming from the new high school a couple blocks away.

OMGPEDOPHILE!!!!!!111oneone

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Syringer
No, there are some hot 5-year-olds out there.

:|

Stick to spiders. That was sick. All pedos are sick and must be executed immediately.

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Syringer
No, there are some hot 5-year-olds out there.

:|

Stick to spiders. That was sick. All pedos are sick and must be executed immediately.

What is a pedophile?

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Syringer
No, there are some hot 5-year-olds out there.

:|

Stick to spiders. That was sick. All pedos are sick and must be executed immediately.

Oh come on, I'm about as conservative as they come here &amp; even I can find humor in pedo jokes.

There's nothing beyond humor, &amp; some of the best jokes are on the worst topics.

Viper GTS

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Syringer
No, there are some hot 5-year-olds out there.

:|

Stick to spiders. That was sick. All pedos are sick and must be executed immediately.

Oh yay....we attracted the holier than thou FelixDeKat to this thread.

:roll:

I think all ultra conservative religous zealots from Texas should be executed immediately....YOU FIRST.

 

[spunkz]

Originally posted by: hotchilisauce
I agree that you can't compare pedophilia to homosexuality. But given that it's rare for a teenager to be a virgin on his/her eighteenth birthday, I'm thinking the legal age will go down to 16 or something.

can someone explain to me why pedophilia is any different from homosexuality? so they're attracted to kids. i thought gays couldnt help it. how can pedophiles help it either?

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: spunkz

Originally posted by: hotchilisauce
I agree that you can't compare pedophilia to homosexuality. But given that it's rare for a teenager to be a virgin on his/her eighteenth birthday, I'm thinking the legal age will go down to 16 or something.

can someone explain to me why pedophilia is any different from homosexuality? so they're attracted to kids. i thought gays couldnt help it. how can pedophiles help it either?

Homosexuality is being attracted to the same sex on a biological level. Pedophilia is more of a preference of a certain age group. It depends on your school of thought on that subject. Some people think homosexuality is simply a "choice" (BS IMO), and some think it's how someone is born. It's very possible there is something different in the brain of these people that causes them to be attracted to young children, or they could just be attracted because it's considered wrong by society at large.

It's not a cut and dry sort of thing.

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: hotchilisauce
I agree that you can't compare pedophilia to homosexuality. But given that it's rare for a teenager to be a virgin on his/her eighteenth birthday, I'm thinking the legal age will go down to 16 or something.

It's rare for an 18 year old to be a virgin?

Methinks you're pulling this outta your ass, I'd be surprised if it was even as low as 50%.

http://www.cdc.gov/HealthyYout...bs/pdfs/trends-sex.pdf

There's some real numbers for you. Granted there is a four year range of surveyed ages, but I would still hardly call it "rare" for an 18 year old to be a virgin.

Viper GTS

Sorry but I agree with him. In my highschool I do not know anyone personally who is a virgin. I'm sure there are some. Most of which are probably freshman, maybe sophomores. But by the age of 18 I'm sure at least 75% of the people (at my school at least) have had sex. Hell most of the girls I know lost their viginity at 15 or younger. I'm 17 and I'm not a virgin and I spend my freetime on ATOT. That's gotta tell you something!

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Conjecture on my part -

Pedophilia is a disease or a mental disorder.

Homosexuality is not with no bond between the two.

Consentual sex between adults is fine. There is a serious mental breakdown going on when an adult is trying to solicit sexual services from a child. And I'm not talking about a 20 year old going after a 16 or 17 year old. We're talking full grown adults going after children that are unable to comprehend what exactly is going on.

As far as not acting on it, is it illegal, no. Is it unhealthy, yes.

Very well said.

And I'd like to add that those who take advantage of children are the worst kind of scum on earth. There is a REASON that prison inmates tend to hate child molesters the most. It is one of the vilest things a person could ever do.

I know that for many, it is tempting... for those who find it tempting, I hope that you will GET HELP before you ruin lives.

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: spunkz

Originally posted by: hotchilisauce
I agree that you can't compare pedophilia to homosexuality. But given that it's rare for a teenager to be a virgin on his/her eighteenth birthday, I'm thinking the legal age will go down to 16 or something.

can someone explain to me why pedophilia is any different from homosexuality? so they're attracted to kids. i thought gays couldnt help it. how can pedophiles help it either?

With pedophiles, there is an inherent imbalance of power with the child-victim. It's not about having great sex with someone who is your equal and who could kick your ass when you needed to have your ass kicked. It is about being in total control, playing games, and not facing up to reality. Pedophiles are remarkably PATHETIC human beings.

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: OS
i wonder how japanese society gets by with their heavy school girl fetish/prostitution/etc.

It's actually an outgrowth of their growing pains as a society. Makes the men feel more powerful and in control. Sad.

 

[Isla]

Originally posted by: Supercharged

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: hotchilisauce
I agree that you can't compare pedophilia to homosexuality. But given that it's rare for a teenager to be a virgin on his/her eighteenth birthday, I'm thinking the legal age will go down to 16 or something.

It's rare for an 18 year old to be a virgin?

Methinks you're pulling this outta your ass, I'd be surprised if it was even as low as 50%.

http://www.cdc.gov/HealthyYout...bs/pdfs/trends-sex.pdf

There's some real numbers for you. Granted there is a four year range of surveyed ages, but I would still hardly call it "rare" for an 18 year old to be a virgin.

Viper GTS

Sorry but I agree with him. In my highschool I do not know anyone personally who is a virgin. I'm sure there are some. Most of which are probably freshman, maybe sophomores. But by the age of 18 I'm sure at least 75% of the people (at my school at least) have had sex. Hell most of the girls I know lost their viginity at 15 or younger. I'm 17 and I'm not a virgin and I spend my freetime on ATOT. That's gotta tell you something!

Yes, but your sample represents your own demographic... you are more likely to surround yourself with non-virgin teenagers because you are one yourself.

I know a lot of teenagers who are virgins, I knew a lot when I was growing up, it all depends on the crowd you hang out with.

 

[Whisper]

Pedophilia is a mental disorder, much like the ability to voluntarily commit murder. While the two are not necessarily related cause-wise, the basic principle is the same. The propensity or desire to commit either act would be considered abnormal, but that in and of itself does not necessarily make someone a bad person. The important part is the individual's ability to keep the desire in check.

However, I would say that anyone having desires related to pedophilia should definitely seek counseling, whether or not they had ever acted on said desires.

 

[caz67]

Yes..!!

 

[Lonyo]

Yes, Philadelphia is always wrong.

 

[FuZoR]

Originally posted by: OS
Once, while driving around, I saw a bunch of skanky looking girls with backpacks and I was like, there isn't a college around here, what gives. And then I realized they were coming from the new high school a couple blocks away.

woooo LOL wait I should'nt say that in this thread lol

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: thirtythree
Say a person is attracted to kids, but he doesn't know why, and he doesn't act on his impulses... would you consider him a pervert? The reason I ask is because I wonder how one becomes a pedophile. Is it just the way a person is, like homosexuals for example?

I think that many paedophiles have been abused themself some way or another, or have been raised under the influence of an "anormally" adult. I see it as a mentally condition that makes it impossible for them to differ between the love from a child and love from an adult. There's a large difference between paedohili and homosexuality, because in homosexuality and heterosexuality the relation is between two adults who are equal and know what they're doing. A child can never be equal in a paedohilic relation, they will be manipulated and forced to do things they don't think is right and don't have the capability to refuse. I think that some paedophiles have a fear of rejection from and equal partner and therefore "loves" the naive and trustfull love that you can have from a child, and they use this for a substitution for love from an adult.

 

[candicec]

I'm really glad someone posed this question. I feel it is a definite gray area...

Pedophilia is only as wrong as the society in which it exists, deems it so. In other words, if pedophilia existed in a world (perhaps in the middle ages..etc when it was not uncommon to marry 12 year olds etc.) where the norms allowed for such behavior, then it would not be seen as a vile/disgusting/wrong thing.

As time progressed to the present day we find ourselves in, we have been socialized to see pedophilia as wrong because it is seen as a skew from the norm...an outlier...something which society has deemed unacceptable/illegal...(and implicitly...immoral).

I think the law becomes a slippery slope at times. Someone brought up the example: can cops prosecute someone who had thoughts of molesting little kids and wrote it in a diary? I personally, think not.

I say what people think, fantasize, do in the privacy of their own homes...is fine by me. As long as they are not ACTING out these urges on children. I think pedophilia is illegal with good reason. The simple fact remains that it is unfair for an adult to manipulate a child which is incapable of fully consenting because their mind is still developing, their norms are still being established...they do not possess the full cognitive development adults do. They lack the cognizance to decide yes/no to a sexual act.

Pedophilia in many ways is a matter of control. The law tries to even the playing ground.

candicec

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Syringer
No, there are some hot 5-year-olds out there.

:|

Stick to spiders. That was sick. All pedos are sick and must be executed immediately.

Oh yay....we attracted the holier than thou FelixDeKat to this thread.

:roll:

I think all ultra conservative religous zealots from Texas should be executed immediately....YOU FIRST.

Did I offend the poor pedophile? :| :laugh: