Do you think there will be any negative effects of #metoo for women?

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alien42

Lifer
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No one is denying there is a problem. A few of us are saying the #metoo solution will backfire spectacularly due to its inherent politically opportunisitic intent

equality for women will "backfire spectacularly"

#oppressedwhitemale

it's unfortunate you don't understand that you, like trump, are part of the problem here. doesn't really matter though, history will leave you behind just like it always has.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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equality for women will "backfire spectacularly"

#oppressedwhitemale

it's unfortunate you don't understand that you, like trump, are part of the problem here. doesn't really matter though, history will leave you behind just like it always has.
I don't work in Hollywood, Washington, Sacramento or Albany. I would say they are behind the world I live in.

Political opportunism always backfires. Always.

#stillnoclue
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
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Depends on how that is accomplished. You could end all male sexual harassment by killing all men. Or, it could be that there is a shift in human respect and people stop doing shitty things. Huge difference with the same outcome.



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jmagg

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equality for women will "backfire spectacularly"

#oppressedwhitemale

it's unfortunate you don't understand that you, like trump, are part of the problem here. doesn't really matter though, history will leave you behind just like it always has.

The entire issue pretty much transcends race.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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I don't know, civil rights went okay vs what we had before.
Civil rights were not politically opportunistic, as it was a movement independent of anyone trying to further their political ambitions.

Would we even be having this conversation were it not for the Alabama race or Trump?
 

alien42

Lifer
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I don't work in Hollywood, Washington, Sacramento or Albany. I would say they are behind the world I live in.

Political opportunism always backfires. Always.

#stillnoclue

this issue has nothing to do with where you work and once again you continue to expose your ignorance.

#oppressedwhitemale
 
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There are already negative effects. #metoo is a politically opportunistic movement that dies once Trump is out of office.

You have Presidential contenders using #metoo to further their political ambitions and offer blood sacrifices.

There will be liability and civil implications once the pendulum inevitably swings too far, such as the Mattress Girl case.

There is always the cry wolf dynamic that dilutes the conversation.

We should not accept Twitter and social media kangaroo courts.

I am even starting to notice a growing tension at my workplace where there wasn't one before. Even simple things like handshakes with clients or hugs with coworkers have become awkward.

Just for you

 

mect

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I'm very concerned about this movement. I absolutely believe things must change but taking the livelihood away from men who have committed minor offenses puts in danger the depth of compassion and empathy for deeper more heinous violations against women. To be clear I don't give one iota how this is affecting men. I'm worried how it will affect women in general. The men that will hurt or objectify women are often the same ones who are vindictive and viciously petty.
In my opinion this is why this movement is so important. In areas where sexual harassment isn't tolerated, a minor offense typically leads to some training and a write-up. If the offenses continue, then the repercussions escalate accordingly. In cultures where it is simply overlooked, it just runs rampant, until years later it leaks out into the public for high profile cases, and people end up losing their livelihood because of how far its gone. If we develop a culture where its not tolerated, correction can take place before it reaches this level.
 
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mect

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So you agree Al Franken deserved to take one for the team?
No, Al Franken deserved to be removed from the senate based on his own actions. You don't think a pattern of sexual harassment warrants removal from the senate?
 

alien42

Lifer
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Or you're clueless

it's an American cultural problem dumbass. just because politics and entertainment are in the spotlight doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist in business or rural America.

thankfully the ignorance of your ilk is going the way of the dinosaur no matter what you think.
 
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Starbuck1975

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No, Al Franken deserved to be removed from the senate based on his own actions. You don't think a pattern of sexual harassment warrants removal from the senate?
If only there was a process to validate those accusations
 
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