do you tip pre or post tax?

Jul 10, 2007
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had a discussion with a friend... he tips on the total price, i tip on the sub-total, e.g. before tax is added.

granted, the difference is usually under $5 but i was arguing on principal.
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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When would the difference even approach $5?

A $300 meal with a 30% tip?
 

sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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when our combined sales tax was 15% I just gave them whatever the tax is. now that the tax is 13%, I have to bump that up.
 
Jul 10, 2007
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Originally posted by: kranky
When would the difference even approach $5?

A $300 meal with a 30% tip?

i meant different in the total and subtotal.
$100 meal, ~8% sales tax, $8 difference.
 

Fritzo

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Jan 3, 2001
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I look at the total, take 10%, then add half of that amount of top of it. I hate people that go nuts over things like this.
 

tfinch2

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Feb 3, 2004
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I double the sales tax (8.125%) and round up to the nearest dollar. If service was bad, I round down and maybe subtract another dollar.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Tax here is either 7.75 or 7.25 depending where you're at, so it's easiest to just double that and round. Don't worry about the exact amount.

btw, if the service is bad, don't tip. If the service is REALLY bad, tip a penny. no tip means the person might be cheap, but a penny is saying "you suck!". But if the service is good, tip extra.
 

Descartes

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Tax here is either 7.75 or 7.25 depending where you're at, so it's easiest to just double that and round. Don't worry about the exact amount.

btw, if the service is bad, don't tip. If the service is REALLY bad, tip a penny. no tip means the person might be cheap, but a penny is saying "you suck!". But if the service is good, tip extra.

That's a bit childish. If you didn't like your service, talk to someone who can address your problem. Tipping a penny at any non-Applebee's quality restaurant is likely enough to get you kicked out for good.

If you don't like the service, you can always just complain respectfully.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Tax here is either 7.75 or 7.25 depending where you're at, so it's easiest to just double that and round. Don't worry about the exact amount.

btw, if the service is bad, don't tip. If the service is REALLY bad, tip a penny. no tip means the person might be cheap, but a penny is saying "you suck!". But if the service is good, tip extra.

That's a bit childish. If you didn't like your service, talk to someone who can address your problem. Tipping a penny at any non-Applebee's quality restaurant is likely enough to get you kicked out for good.

If you don't like the service, you can always just complain respectfully.

I've never tipped a penny, but I've worked at a restaurant.
 

Amused

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Apr 14, 2001
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Usually the after tax amount. The difference on the average ticket is so small as to not really matter to me.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
btw, if the service is bad, don't tip. If the service is REALLY bad, tip a penny. no tip means the person might be cheap, but a penny is saying "you suck!". But if the service is good, tip extra.

If the service is good, then it's a standard tip. It's got to be better than good to get extra.
 

Mr Pickles

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Feb 24, 2006
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Food:

Fuck food. Who just goes out and eats food? I only eat at non-franchised, locally owned places and I almost always get a beer or three when I go out to dinner. I tip 20% of the final bill unless you've really done something to make me mad, which is almost never. I rarely ever get upset with people in any service industry. I'm only there for an hour and they have to be there 40 hours a week. Most of the time they are doing the best they can't to provide fast, accurate service. On top of the 20% they normally get I give them an extra $1 for every drink I have. So a 20$ meal with 2 drinks gets you 6 bucks.

Bars:

I normally only drink where I know my bartenders by name. If I don't know your name and you tell me your name without me asking I automatically like you and I tip about 40%. If I don't know you and you aren't interested in getting to know me then you get $1 dollar for every drink I have, no matter how expensive the drink is. It takes just as long to pour a jack and coke as it does to pour crown and ginger. The price has nothing to do with the bartender.


Stop being so cheap and learn to only eat and drink at places that respect your service. Then you can stop being a customer and start being a guest and get treated much better. I can't tell you how many times tipping well and getting to know your servers and bartenders ends up with free drinks and good times with the staff when they aren't working, or even when they are working.
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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IMO, the difference between pre and post tax is negligible for tipping purposes...after all, 15% of 8% even on $100 only adds up to $1.20.

I look at 15% of the total bill (including tax) then determine how much to actuall tip. It's rarely exactly 15% anyway. if 15% worked out to $4.57, they'd probably get $5...or $4 if the service wasn't up to par...or nothing if the service sucked.
 

Chryso

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Nov 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: Fritzo
I look at the total, take 10%, then add half of that amount of top of it. I hate people that go nuts over things like this.

DING! That is what I do.
 
Jul 10, 2007
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Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Food:

Fuck food. Who just goes out and eats food? I only eat at non-franchised, locally owned places and I almost always get a beer or three when I go out to dinner. I tip 20% of the final bill unless you've really done something to make me mad, which is almost never. I rarely ever get upset with people in any service industry. I'm only there for an hour and they have to be there 40 hours a week. Most of the time they are doing the best they can't to provide fast, accurate service. On top of the 20% they normally get I give them an extra $1 for every drink I have. So a 20$ meal with 2 drinks gets you 6 bucks.

Bars:

I normally only drink where I know my bartenders by name. If I don't know your name and you tell me your name without me asking I automatically like you and I tip about 40%. If I don't know you and you aren't interested in getting to know me then you get $1 dollar for every drink I have, no matter how expensive the drink is. It takes just as long to pour a jack and coke as it does to pour crown and ginger. The price has nothing to do with the bartender.


Stop being so cheap and learn to only eat and drink at places that respect your service. Then you can stop being a customer and start being a guest and get treated much better. I can't tell you how many times tipping well and getting to know your servers and bartenders ends up with free drinks and good times with the staff when they aren't working, or even when they are working.


did you know that you are a really, really, super cool guy?
 

imported_Imp

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Dec 20, 2005
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Post-tax. I haven't paid for anything over $45 before, and tax is 13-15%, so it's not a big deal.
 

SandEagle

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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Fritzo
I look at the total, take 10%, then add half of that amount of top of it. I hate people that go nuts over things like this.

DING! That is what I do.

why not just say 15%?
 

Mr Pickles

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Feb 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Food:

Fuck food. Who just goes out and eats food? I only eat at non-franchised, locally owned places and I almost always get a beer or three when I go out to dinner. I tip 20% of the final bill unless you've really done something to make me mad, which is almost never. I rarely ever get upset with people in any service industry. I'm only there for an hour and they have to be there 40 hours a week. Most of the time they are doing the best they can't to provide fast, accurate service. On top of the 20% they normally get I give them an extra $1 for every drink I have. So a 20$ meal with 2 drinks gets you 6 bucks.

Bars:

I normally only drink where I know my bartenders by name. If I don't know your name and you tell me your name without me asking I automatically like you and I tip about 40%. If I don't know you and you aren't interested in getting to know me then you get $1 dollar for every drink I have, no matter how expensive the drink is. It takes just as long to pour a jack and coke as it does to pour crown and ginger. The price has nothing to do with the bartender.


Stop being so cheap and learn to only eat and drink at places that respect your service. Then you can stop being a customer and start being a guest and get treated much better. I can't tell you how many times tipping well and getting to know your servers and bartenders ends up with free drinks and good times with the staff when they aren't working, or even when they are working.


did you know that you are a really, really, super cool guy?

...and I can do 100 pushups. You want me. You really want me.
 

Fritzo

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Jan 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: rrahman1
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Fritzo
I look at the total, take 10%, then add half of that amount of top of it. I hate people that go nuts over things like this.

DING! That is what I do.

why not just say 15%?

It's an easy way to figure out 15%.
 
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