Do you use Vista's UAC?

[Mem]

Originally posted by: rchiu
Best security is good judgment with anti-virus, firewall and spyware scan/remover with all the latest updates, not UAC. It's stupid to think hackers won't find something to bypass UAC and blindly trust it. Plus UAC annoys the hell out of me, so I turn it off.

You could argue its stupid to disable UAC,its there for a reason plus added free security is always a good thing and you know thats true,why make it easy for hackers?

Common sense goes a long way too and my common sense tells me to leave it enabled .

 

[gevorg]

No, its very annoying and still not good enough. I leave it to Kaspersky to do the job. Common sense helps too.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: gevorg
No, its very annoying and still not good enough. I leave it to Kaspersky to do the job. Common sense helps too.

You may have the annoying part right but the "not good enough" part is backwards. It technically is better than Kaspersky at preventing viruses. Unless debugging I'd use both.

 

[Maximilian]

No because its a POS and i dont like it.

 

[Bateluer]

I turned it off for the sake of convenience really.

 

[pcgamer321]

I haven't run into anything since I turned UAC on.......very good.

 

[NetGuySC]

I use it for I want to run as a standard user

 

[Doomer]

Geez, I guess it would be ok with you guys if you had to get MS's permission every time you rebooted your computer. While you're at it, why not install Net Nanny so you don't go to any of those nasty web site your mother told you about. How much freaking control is too much? Do you not see where MS is leading you? Wake up people, before it's too late.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Doomer
Geez, I guess it would be ok with you guys if you had to get MS's permission every time you rebooted your computer. While you're at it, why not install Net Nanny so you don't go to any of those nasty web site your mother told you about. How much freaking control is too much? Do you not see where MS is leading you? Wake up people, before it's too late.

Wow, totally paranoid and irrational. How is life when everything is a consipracy?

 

[daveybrat]

I turn off UAC and run Avira Antivirus. I've never gotten an infection on XP and doubt i'll ever get one on Vista.

As a technician, i personally find the UAC a little too annoying to use on a daily basis. I do agree that it should be left on for the less informed as it can add much needed security.

 

[rgallant]

I turn it off , only because it's like you will just out of reflex click OK , so where's the protection ?
I use McAfee antivirus , fire wall, all outs blocked ,real time scanning , it updates every day or two ,
-DSL is filtered by sympatico , have no idea what spam looks like
- and crap if it falls ! , I do a clean install no big deal .it's never happen ever
-.also I do and keep back ups on a different drive to save reload times , also copy and paste the only two folders I use for all downloaded items to the other drive.
and if it was a bad infection , the second drive would be formatted also , not to risk a infected file.
-nothings a 100% so I keep no personal stuff on my system.

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: rgallant
I turn it off , only because it's like you will just out of reflex click OK , so where's the protection ?
I use McAfee antivirus , fire wall, all outs blocked ,real time scanning , it updates every day or two ,
-DSL is filtered by sympatico , have no idea what spam looks like
- and crap if it falls ! , I do a clean install no big deal .it's never happen ever
-.also I do and keep back ups on a different drive to save reload times , also copy and paste the only two folders I use for all downloaded items to the other drive.
and if it was a bad infection , the second drive would be formatted also , not to risk a infected file.
-nothings a 100% so I keep no personal stuff on my system.

thats my problem with it

they need to make it pop up less often because honestly you just start clicking it rapidly because it happens so many times a day

i dont think that it needs to ask me if i can run ventrilo every time i load it for instance

 

[Smilin]

I don't have the reflex issue. I pretty much know when I'm about to trigger one and I rapidly click the ok when it pops. If UAC pops when I did not expect it I definately pause to think. I don't think reflex is a weakness (for me at least).


FYI - I do not believe Ventrilo should be triggering UAC. Instead of hitting OK you should investigate. UAC is supposed to make you think. If you are just hitting OK without thinking you might as well turn it off. I suggest thinking.

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: Smilin
I don't have the reflex issue. I pretty much know when I'm about to trigger one and I rapidly click the ok when it pops. If UAC pops when I did not expect it I definately pause to think. I don't think reflex is a weakness (for me at least).


FYI - I do not believe Ventrilo should be triggering UAC. Instead of hitting OK you should investigate. UAC is supposed to make you think. If you are just hitting OK without thinking you might as well turn it off. I suggest thinking.

Ventrillo only works properly when running as a administrator. I find it no big deal to enter my admin password to start it. I wish the developers would fix the problem with Ventrillo so that it will not require admin privileges to operate.

Ventrillo is the only software I use that requires admin privileges to run properly.

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: rgallant
I turn it off , only because it's like you will just out of reflex click OK , so where's the protection ?
I use McAfee antivirus , fire wall, all outs blocked ,real time scanning , it updates every day or two ,
-DSL is filtered by sympatico , have no idea what spam looks like
- and crap if it falls ! , I do a clean install no big deal .it's never happen ever
-.also I do and keep back ups on a different drive to save reload times , also copy and paste the only two folders I use for all downloaded items to the other drive.
and if it was a bad infection , the second drive would be formatted also , not to risk a infected file.
-nothings a 100% so I keep no personal stuff on my system.

thats my problem with it

they need to make it pop up less often because honestly you just start clicking it rapidly because it happens so many times a day

i dont think that it needs to ask me if i can run ventrilo every time i load it for instance

You need to join me in emailing the developers to fix this. Ventrilo should not require admin privileges to run correctly. (No third party software should require admin privileges to run. It is a result of bad coding practices on the developers part.)

 

[xSauronx]

for the only vista systems i have set up i have left UAC turned on.

i setup 3 computers last week for my dad at work for his PoS software and they all use vista. during regular operations it never pops up so theres no reason to turn it off, since otherwise i dont have to switch to the admin account if i need to change something.

now if i used vista at home, i *might* turn it off if i felt bothered by it. i use ubuntu linux so i have to put in a password to change admin-level stuff anyway so i dont really care about it.

 

[Psych]

I leave UAC turned on, and I use TweakUAC to put it into silent mode only when I know I'll be doing a lot of administrator-level activities with the computer using programs I trust.

 

[CSMR]

I use an admin account and turn off uac but I give my family limited accounts on their PCs with uac on.

 

[Navid]

I used to turn it off because I did not know how to enable my startup programs once and for all such that it would not ask for my permission at every boot up.
Since I found out how to do it using the task scheduler, I have left it on.
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...t_key=y&keyword1=Vista

 

[nccr]

I left it on for the first few months I used Vista. It never triggered as a safety mechanism during that time, only as an annoyance. I got very fed up with forgetting to run R as an administrator all the time and having to save my workspace, run R as admin to be able to install a package, install the package, and reload my 1gb+ workspace.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: Smilin
I don't have the reflex issue. I pretty much know when I'm about to trigger one and I rapidly click the ok when it pops. If UAC pops when I did not expect it I definately pause to think. I don't think reflex is a weakness (for me at least).


FYI - I do not believe Ventrilo should be triggering UAC. Instead of hitting OK you should investigate. UAC is supposed to make you think. If you are just hitting OK without thinking you might as well turn it off. I suggest thinking.

Ventrillo only works properly when running as a administrator. I find it no big deal to enter my admin password to start it. I wish the developers would fix the problem with Ventrillo so that it will not require admin privileges to operate.

Ventrillo is the only software I use that requires admin privileges to run properly.

When I run Ventrillo it does NOT give a UAC prompt and it works fine. Just to be sure I wasn't trying to trick you, I installed it on the machine I'm typing this from to verify. No prompt.

If you are getting a UAC prompt from Ventrillo then you are doing something differently or Ventrillo is really badly written. There is no need for that app to need an admin token.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: Smilin
I don't have the reflex issue. I pretty much know when I'm about to trigger one and I rapidly click the ok when it pops. If UAC pops when I did not expect it I definately pause to think. I don't think reflex is a weakness (for me at least).


FYI - I do not believe Ventrilo should be triggering UAC. Instead of hitting OK you should investigate. UAC is supposed to make you think. If you are just hitting OK without thinking you might as well turn it off. I suggest thinking.

Ventrillo only works properly when running as a administrator. I find it no big deal to enter my admin password to start it. I wish the developers would fix the problem with Ventrillo so that it will not require admin privileges to operate.

Ventrillo is the only software I use that requires admin privileges to run properly.

When I run Ventrillo it does NOT give a UAC prompt and it works fine. Just to be sure I wasn't trying to trick you, I installed it on the machine I'm typing this from to verify. No prompt.

If you are getting a UAC prompt from Ventrillo then you are doing something differently or Ventrillo is really badly written. There is no need for that app to need an admin token.

No UAC prompts here with Ventrilo either, and I don't have any issues that I'm aware of.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: Modelworks
It isn't risky if you know what you are doing.

That is the wrong way to look at it. A risky operation is always a risky operation, even if being performed by someone who knows what they are doing. The difference between a novice and an expert is that the expert understands the operation is risky and is willing to asses if the benefits outweigh the risk. Then the expert takes appropriate actions to help shield against some of them risk prior to executing the operation.

No it is the right way to look at it.
It is my system and if I want to copy files, delete file, or install a program I will and without the OS second guessing me.

And guess what-if you can do it without prompts, so can a script Unless youre not connected to the internet, youre at risk

edit: nvm you said you arent on a network.

10/10 for troll post!

Just goes to show the know-it-all attitude people have on forums. Don't assume everyone runs their pc just like you. I would never use UAC to protect a pc even on a network. I use a BSD box for that, that firewalls, virus scans, and host email for all the other pc.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: soonerproud

Originally posted by: Modelworks
It isn't risky if you know what you are doing.

That is the wrong way to look at it. A risky operation is always a risky operation, even if being performed by someone who knows what they are doing. The difference between a novice and an expert is that the expert understands the operation is risky and is willing to asses if the benefits outweigh the risk. Then the expert takes appropriate actions to help shield against some of them risk prior to executing the operation.

No it is the right way to look at it.
It is my system and if I want to copy files, delete file, or install a program I will and without the OS second guessing me.

And guess what-if you can do it without prompts, so can a script Unless youre not connected to the internet, youre at risk

edit: nvm you said you arent on a network.

10/10 for troll post!

Just goes to show the know-it-all attitude people have on forums. Don't assume everyone runs their pc just like you. I would never use UAC to protect a pc even on a network. I use a BSD box for that, that firewalls, virus scans, and host email for all the other pc.

Posting that that box is not a network should have been the first thing you said. All you ended up doing is making yourself and everyone who responded to your post look like a jackass.

 

[Modelworks]

Why ?
The question was do you use UAC.
Not do you use a firewall, antivirus or anything else.
I don't use UAC because I find it annoying and none of the reasons I stated involved anything about networking.