Do you vote Republican but may in fact have Libertarian beliefs?

[mithrandir2001]

No wonder I feel alienated: the highest score is a weak 66. Very interesting list. I hate socialism, but David McReynolds is near the top! Nader over Bush! My word, this interesting. Buchanan is last...no problem with that one at all. Pat sucks!

66 Harry Browne
63 David McReynolds
60 John Hagelin
49 Ralph Nader
48 George W. Bush
45 Albert Gore Jr.
40 Howard Phillips
40 Alan Keyes
37 Patrick J. (Pat) Buchanan

EDIT: And look at the lack of "dynamic range". The difference between top and low score is only 29! The trouble is that every candidate has some position that goes completely against mine.

 

[Texmaster]

<< OMG, I just ventured into "enemy camp". I can't believe what I'm reading!

• "You'll never hear liberals propose the government
  sacrifice. The government shall never do with a dime
  less than what it had the previous year"

The bastard! :Q >>



Uh, care to explain this? What he is saying is that liberals want the most money from the people into their hands (ie the government) and don't want to take a paycut (ie tax relief) EVER.

And he's right.

 

[Ornery]

OMG, just checked out that creep, Limbaugh's 35 Undeniable Truths list. Look at this, #27 reads, "Using federal dollars as a measure, our cities have not been neglected, but poisoned with welfare dependency funds." The man is a monster! :Q

Edit: Oh, and look at #2, "The vast majority of the rich in this country did not inherit their wealth; they earned it. They are the country's achievers, producers, and job creators." Where does he come up with this stuff? :frown: He is TRULY in the "enemy camp"!

 

[Phokus]

<< Regean was NEVER the subject. Stop trying to introduce a new one. >>



No, but i was referring to Republcans i general. Stop trying to pretend i didn't.



<< And Bush's faith based initiative doesn't mean for a SECOND it was supported by even a majority of Republicans. Where do you get your statistics? >>






<< And NONE of that talks about the people only who their elected officials voted for. Are you so naive to think that politicians always vote as the majority of people think? LOL >>



Oh so in other words since it is your belief that most republicans DONT vote in favor of the faith based initiative (and i have yet to see proof, thanks), that the house repubs betrayed their constituents by voting for it? Ok i'll take that stance with you!



<< I said the majorty of repubicans not the majority of the SENATE you simpleton. You have Zero facts to support that the vast majority of republicans, only the elected officials.

Try again. >>



Unless you give me proof that most republican voters are against it, i'll have to say you're a tool. I clearly don't hear much outrage from the voters.



<< And I'm still waiting for the statistics on how the majority of republicans believe the same things as the Christian Coalition! LOL >>



I never said they did, again, nice job twisting my words. I clearly said they do to varying degrees and even the ones that are furthest from the CC have to pay lip service. Are you Rush Limbaugh's bastard son?



<< So where are your statisics to challenge mine? I took the 3 biggest charities in the country. Lets see you prove your case. >>



Actually the burden of proof is still on you. When you use the "pick and choose" technique, you discredit yourself. Using the top 3 proves nothing, i only have to point out that there are thousands of organizations that are related. If only the top 2 charities helped out your viewpoint, then you wouldn't include the third one. Your argument is fallacious. Get over it.




<< LOL You brought UP the subject! Oh man, what a riot. >>



I said you were trying to change the subject from seperation of church and state to how (by using fallacious arguments) faith based charities have less overhead than non-faith based charities.



<< HAHAHA What do you mean allegedly? Did you just stop reading the paper and crawl into a cave? LOL >>



This comming from someone who lacks reading comprehension.



<< HAHAHAHAHA right. Sticking to your convictions doesn't mean you have to piss people off. McCain does that as a side business. >>



I never said it did.



<< Thats right. You tried to change the subject 3 times. All I'm doing is trying to keep you on track. >>



This comming from TexSPINmaster. I find it ironic that the person doing the actual subject changing is accusing me of that.

 

[Salvador]

I'm not rich enough yet to vote Republican.

Seriously, as much as it pains for me to say this, Bush is lucky that the WTC happened. His political career was pretty much in the crapper before Osama came along.

Sal

 

[jbod]

I'm not rich enough yet to vote Republican.

Seriously, as much as it pains for me to say this, Bush is lucky that the WTC happened. His political career was pretty much in the crapper before Osama came along.

No Sal,

You all just didn't give young Bush Jr. a chance. Those of us that believe in him always knew it from the start that he is a great man. Everyone loves him because of his character and genuineness. It's just too bad 9/11 is what had to happen for the rest of you to see it. Bush being a great man and the Sept 11 incident are two totally unrelated facts!

I'm done for now...

 

[Ornery]

Salvador, answer the quiz and post the results here. How much does it really matter who is running the show, as long as they push the same issues you support? I could care less if McCain, Buchanan or Bush sits in that office as long as they're on the same page as me where the big issues are concerned.

I think you're gonna puke when you see what issues you have to for and against to get Gore to rise to the top of your choice list

 

[littlelilith]

There's a catch to thinking that voting for a third party is "throwing your vote away." If people actually voted for the person they wanted to win, rather than taking a pick between democrat or republican, a LOT more people would be voting for third parties. Then, they would actually get some gov't funding for their party and would have a better shot at it the next time. Yes, it'll take a while, but if people would seriously vote for the party that has the same ideals/beliefs that they do, then we'd get out of the two-party cycle and they people wouldn't have to think they're throwing their vote away.

 

[Ornery]

Oh Gawd, don't remind me! Like a stupid ass I voted for Perot in '92. All that got me was 8 years of Democrat presidential vetos. The only good thing that came out of it was he and his wife causing Congress to swing to the right.

 

[Ferocious]

51 Albert Gore Jr.
50 George W. Bush
50 Patrick J. (Pat) Buchanan
43 David McReynolds
43 Ralph Nader
42 John Hagelin
41 Howard Phillips
40 Alan Keyes
34 Harry Browne

lol, that's funny seeing Buchanan and Bush....... between Gore and Nader.

(Note: I answered very quickly without too much thought. I don't value these type of quizzes much.)

 

[littlelilith]

Here's what I got on the candidate selector thing [I did this a while ago, summer/early fall maybe.. and my results were quite a bit different]:

David McReynolds - 69%
Al Gore - 66%
Ralph Nader - 60%
John Hagelin - 44%
Harry Browne - 33%
GW Bush - 31%
Alan Keyes - 22%
Pat Buchanan - 21%
Howard Phillips - 20%

:Q

Edit: I just took it again because I accidentally closed the page and wanted to read up on some of them more. I thought I put the same answers in, but this is what I got this time..

65 David McReynolds
61 Ralph Nader
60 Albert Gore Jr.
50 John Hagelin
39 Harry Browne
34 George W. Bush
28 Alan Keyes
26 Howard Phillips
25 Patrick J. (Pat) Buchanan

My results are kinda weird because I don't like socialism, don't care a whole lot for the green party, don't really like gore, etc.. I would say my closest match is Hagelin, and he only had a 50%.

 

[Ornery]

" I don't value these type of quizzes much"

Why? The candidates back certain issues, you back certain issues, this is perfect IMO! Looks like I backed the right horse (or party) by a WIDE margin:

• 87 George W. Bush
  81 Harry Browne
  75 Alan Keyes
  74 Howard Phillips
  67 Patrick J. (Pat) Buchanan
  57 John Hagelin
  21 Albert Gore Jr.
  18 David McReynolds
  17 Ralph Nader

 

[jbod]

OMG, just checked out that creep, Limbaugh's 35 Undeniable Truths list. Look at this, #27 reads, "Using federal dollars as a measure, our cities have not been neglected, but poisoned with welfare dependency funds." The man is a monster!

Edit: Oh, and look at #2, "The vast majority of the rich in this country did not inherit their wealth; they earned it. They are the country's achievers, producers, and job creators." Where does he come up with this stuff? He is TRULY in the "enemy camp"!

Ornery, I didn't catch your sarcasm. According to your quiz results you are conservative all the way!

Why? The candidates back certain issues, you back certain issues, this is perfect IMO! Looks like I backed the right horse (or party) by a WIDE margin:
87 George W. Bush
81 Harry Browne
75 Alan Keyes
74 Howard Phillips
67 Patrick J. (Pat) Buchanan
57 John Hagelin
21 Albert Gore Jr.
18 David McReynolds
17 Ralph Nader

Was that first post sarc? I'm cornfused!

 

[Ornery]

Honestly, what does Limbaugh spew that sets these lefties off so bad? It sure ain't lies! It must just be the way he delivers the truth! Same with Howard Stern and Bill O'Reilly. As far as I'm concerned they merely speak the truth. I guess some people "just can't handle the truth!"

 

[Nefrodite]

There's a catch to thinking that voting for a third party is "throwing your vote away." If people actually voted for the person they wanted to win, rather than taking a pick between democrat or republican, a LOT more people would be voting for third parties. Then, they would actually get some gov't funding for their party and would have a better shot at it the next time. Yes, it'll take a while, but if people would seriously vote for the party that has the same ideals/beliefs that they do, then we'd get out of the two-party cycle and they people wouldn't have to think they're throwing their vote away.

ugh, just think of a 4 way race.. small numbers there but more then 2. the winner might get 25% of the vote if he's lucky.. talk about throwing your vote away for the rest of em

 

[jbod]

I'm with you Ornery all the way. I just read your original post and thought YOU were in the enemy camp.....lol