Doc told me I should never do another Deadlift

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SketchMaster

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About five years ago I messed up my L-5 during a paintball game when I leaned too far over to the left while trying to get an angle on someone and I popped something loose. The nerve was getting pinched and I started to lose feeling/strength in my left leg, so my doc sent me to PT for three months to strengthen my back and pop the disk back in place; feeling came back after that.

I've always been careful with my back since then. I got into crossfit for a while and the trainer I had was a real Nazi for form (also had a messed up back) but it was too high impact after a while and I fell out of that. I got into starting strength last year and was getting good results after a while (DL went from 3x6 with 114lbs to 210lbs after four months).

I recently made a move to Austin and after taking few months off at the gym I decided to get a Personal Trainer since I wanted to add some new things to my routine and always played around with the idea of having one. She didn't like my deadlift form so we dropped weight and started tweaking it. One of the things she didn't like about my form was that I always arched my back while setting up. We got my back flatter, but one day during the last set of 3x15 with 145lbs I failed and rounded my back as I put down the weights. She externalized my back screaming as she scorned me for letting my back round. I didn't think it was that bad until we moved on to reverse sit ups and after just one rep I felt a pop in my mid back and the WORST pain shoot up my upper back between my shoulder blades. I stretched out my back and was able to finish out my set but then said we should call it a night. I went home and tried taking some anti-inflammatorys and rested. The next day I felt ok so I figured I just had a bad day and decided to go back to the gym to do some upper body (pull-ups, dips, rows) but could tell something was off so I cut things short and went home.

Here's the short version of what happened next:

*Left leg went partially numb
*Fingertips started going numb (That only lasted half a day, but freaked me out enough I thought about going to emergycare)
*Spent whole weekend in bed taking painkillers and laying on a heat pad
*Went to Orthopedic later that week to find out I herniated a disk
*Need to go back to PT to fix my nerve (L-5) and loosen my upper back (fingers)
*Told me to forget doing another deadlift, clean and jerk, squat ever again

So, I'm taking a break from the gym and I start PT next week. Pain is mostly gone and feeling has gotten better but I'm super pissed at myself.

C'est la Vie...


***Update 12/13/2014***

I figured I'd leave an update about how I've been coming along. I've gotten a lot better, but still have a ways to go before I can call myself fully recovered. I'm still unclear on if I had a minor herniation, or a bad bulge in my L-4/5. The Doc said herniation, but wasn't very worried after he got the results from the MRI. The therapist I ended up going to said that the MRI results only indicated bulges. I'd likely take the word of the doctor over the PT, but I never got to see the scan myself.

I was in PT for about four months before they let me go, and I've been trying to keep up with what they taught me. I think I left the PT with better abs than when I walked in. I converted to a standing desk at work, and was surprised with how much it helped relieve back pain. I still stand at work, even though sitting no longer causes pain, and I even built a decent standing desk for home (that my laptop is sitting on as I type this). I’m now able to go through my day with little to no pain, and only a *slight* bit of numbness that comes and goes in the big toe/heel of my left foot. I can walk around all day and feel fine, casually ride a bike around town, and do some minor lifting of stuff around the home without much ill effect. I’m hoping to sloooowly start adding things to my daily workout, but nothing that has me lifting, bending, or twisting. I tried asking for ideas from the therapist I was working with, but she told me she can’t give any guidance on working out once I've “graduated” from their program. I know most of the cable machines at the gym are pretty safe for me, but even then I need to be mindful of how I use them.

Besides recovering physically, I’m also finally recovering financially. The total cost of all this was not insignificant because I had just moved cross country to start with a new company, could not get under their insurance until 90 days after my official hire date, then wait for the enrollment window. The PT alone cost me a total $1,056.07, and the grand total after having to sign up for insurance on my own (knee-jerk reaction to the risk of surgery) came out to $3361.05 for all medical bills related to this injury.

I was very annoyed when I realized Gold’s Gym was still charging me my membership fees even after I had told my trainer at the gym that I was down and out for a while. She was trying really hard to get me to come back in, texting me every week to see if I would be ready soon. I had to go in and tell her face-to-face just how bad it had gotten, even mentioning my groin going numb to drive home the point. She left me alone after that, but I made the mistake of not checking to see if they had put my account on hold.

When I asked the gym manger to refund me the money they had charged me, and the $200+ left in trainer credits, he would only credit me back the monthly fees I was charged while injured; then put my account on hold for three months to let me recover a bit more. I’m still trying to figure out if I have a rock to stand on to get a full refund. I know as well as anyone else that getting hurt while training at the gym is something that can happen to anyone, at any time. It’s just a little crappy that my injury happened under the supervision of a trainer, after I told her I had a previous back injury, then she was surprised I didn't just bounce back from it. It’d be one thing for me to try and do something silly like sue for all my medical bills, but all I want is to cash out my credits and move on from this a little wiser. My gym membership became active this past week, so I went in to do some PT and look at what else I may be able to start adding in. I won't lie, it's a bit awkward to be that guy in the corner working with resistance bands and light weights while everyone else is powering away. I just remind myself that they either don't care about what I'm doing, or know/figure I'm doing that stuff for a good reason.


I have noticed that some other people on here were going through similar injuries as me, so I figure I’d wrap up by saying this:

It WILL get better.

In the span of seven months I went from half my lower body felling numb with staggering pain in my back that had me in lying in bed most days, to only having some mild numbness in my left foot. It does get better, if you take care of yourself. Do your therapy, listen to your doc, take it easy for as long as you need to.

And watch your damn form.
 
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Have you had an MRI? Obviously, you've demonstrated some signs of spinal nerve root impingement, but that can happen outside of disc pathology. If you have disc pathology, then it's not ideal to place a heavy load on it. Does that mean you can't lift? Not necessarily. Things like front squats actually put a little less load on the disc due to reduced firing of the back extensors. You're also less likely to get a butt wink or any sort of lumbar flexion during the lift (if you're careful). Back squat and deadlift are a little bit rougher on the disc (higher intradiscal pressure), which is more pronounced with poor form. You'd also have to realize that, if it's due to disc pathology, you do run the risk of wearing things out a little bit faster.

If it's not a disc issue and is actually more related to your flexibility, then you can and will get back to heavy lifting without problems as long as you maintain your mobility. If you ever wanted to go back to deadlifting, back squatting, your form would have to be perfect.
 

SketchMaster

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They took X-rays but no MRI, I'm paying out of pocket right now because my insurance doesn't kick in until I log 400Hrs with my new company (was a contract to hire and they are being ****s about not counting my contract hours). I have a follow up with the Orth in four weeks, so if after PT I'm still having issues we are going to take a closer look.

He also mentioned that I could squat, but only if my form was "perfect". After I get done with PT my trainer is going to work with the therapist to put together a new routine for me to build my core up, turns out she used to assist with therapy so she already has an idea of what to do.

Still sucks though because I was getting great results with her, in the mirror and in ability, so being put out of the game for a month (if I heal quick) is annoying as hell. :-/
 

Koing

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Take it easy. Form is more paramount than weight lifted for you. You will learn your body better and if you don't think you can make the lasts rep just don't do it. No use putting yourself out for a month.

Koing
 

IeraseU

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If the doctor said not to do it, I wouldn't do it. There are other ways to work your back, glutes, and hamstrings. You can also work your legs pretty well without doing squats.
 

SP33Demon

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You may have to do Bulgarian split squats and lower that weight to achieve overload and protect that back. You can do back extensions without deadlift that will strengthen your back, but that would suck if you can't DL again. Another option is to look into the sumo deadlift, as a study showed that it puts 8% less shearing force on your lower discs. I usually incorporate half my workout with sumo since my lower back has had some injury in the past. Sumo will put a little more stress on the knees though. All in all, knees can be replaced but lower backs not so much.
 

SketchMaster

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*sigh* Looks like this will be a longer process than I was hoping for...

Had my first PT session today. I went in thinking it'd go smoothly since I've been feeling a lot better, only slight discomfort in my legs and even then it's just a slight bother. After an hour long eval the Therapist said that I should start seeing some improvements in a month if I fallowed the treatment.

Me: "Great! Does that mean I can get back into the gym after that?"

PT: "I wouldn't get your hopes up... You will see improvements but it can take up to six months for the disk to fully heal, and even then it will never be as strong."

Me: "...Six months? There isn't any way I can get back in sooner?"

PT: "We can see how you're doing in a month and start working with your trainer to ease you back into the gym; but, no movements that have you bending over or putting any kind of load on your back."

Me: "...So pretty much 80% of my current workout?"

PT: "There are still a lot of things you can do, but yes, you will be limited for a while."

So, that's the ugly truth of my back injury right now. I'm super aggravated that one slip-up has likely undone all the hard work I did over the past year.

Take care of your back, Kids, it sucks when it gives out.
 
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TerryMathews

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Why aren't you more worried about this? You're flirting with permanent numbness, nerve damage or partial paralysis.

Learn to love aerobic.
 

mikelish

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you could look into "Foundation Training"

I've only been doing it for a week and it's helped my back pain

videos on youtube show you how to do it
 

SketchMaster

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A quick update:

My recovery was a lot rougher than the doctor was hoping. At first, I was feeling like I was going to be over this in a few months; but, I made the mistake of trying to move a box in my closet and apparently aggravated everything. My entire left leg felt heavy and numb, and started feeling numb in my groin ( D-: !!! ). The Doctor feared I had a lose chunk of disk banging around, so he ordered me to go get an MRI. Thankfully the damage wasn't that bad, only two moderate herniations. He told me to just take it easy, and after a week of rest and more PT I was back to "normal".

The doctor has told me that I am not allowed to lift anything heavier than a book for the next two months. He has also forbidden me from: Running, rowing, sitting for more than a hour at a time, or doing anything that loads/twits/bends my spine for the next six months.

I can walk, swim, cycle (if I can sit upright on it, no hunching over) and maybe do a little upper body in the mean time. Anything else is pretty much a no-go if I want my back to heal correctly.

So, this sucks. :-/
 

smackababy

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For starters, if my doctor told me I could never do dead lifts again, I'd find a new doctor. F that noise! I loving doing dead lifts.

Second, sucks about the update; do what he suggested, though. No loading on the back until he says you're clear, not when you feel like you are. =)

Hope everything gets better. Also, if normal deadlifts actually are banned, perhaps sumo deadlifts might be okayed? I believe the put less strain directly on the back.
 

Koing

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For starters, if my doctor told me I could never do dead lifts again, I'd find a new doctor. F that noise! I loving doing dead lifts.

Second, sucks about the update; do what he suggested, though. No loading on the back until he says you're clear, not when you feel like you are. =)

Hope everything gets better. Also, if normal deadlifts actually are banned, perhaps sumo deadlifts might be okayed? I believe the put less strain directly on the back.

It's probably very wise to not do any form of DL for a while as the OP keeps getting injured going very minor things.

My L4 is prolapsed but after the big injury I was out for 9months doing rehab. It did occasionally just go once every 6-12months for about 3yrs but it hasn't happened in years though. If I had a recent MRI I'm not entirely sure how it would look? But I've been able to lift heavy since 2004/05 which was when I hurt my L4.

OP, chin up and just d your rehab work and be careful.

Koing
 

inachu

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Do what I did!

I bought that NASA style foam pads for the bed.

Your back will thank you in the morning.
 

baydude

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Have you read the book Healing Back Pain by Dr Sarno?

I completed 3 months of PT with not much difference in symptoms and only felt better after completely stopping PT exercises and thinking more about my emotions. Going through back pain was probably one of the most stressful and worrisome experience I had ever gone through and I'm just glad I feel a lot better now. I would Google daily herniated/bulging disc recovery stories to try and find hope. I would constantly check my health benefits to see how much disability leave I had in case I could no longer manage the pain or needed surgery. I now believe all that worry was no help at all and made recovery impossible.

Throughout the recovery process I've become way more self aware of who I am and the way I think. Let me know if you need some info on the book or my recovery process..
 
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