Dodge Viper ACR sets lap records on 13 tracks

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996GT2

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The ACR's interior is actually not that stripped out. I see speakers in the doors, cupholders, a LCD screen, climate control, Bluetooth, steering wheel buttons, power windows, and a door handle.



Certainly no more stripped out than a GT3 RS, which doesn't even have a proper door handle

 
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JulesMaximus

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The ACR's interior is actually not that stripped out. I see a stereo, LCD screen, climate control, buttons on the steering wheel for Bluetooth, power windows, and a door handle.



Certainly no more stripped out than a GT3 RS, which doesn't even have a proper door handle


I'd take a GT3 RS over a Viper any day.
 

996GT2

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I'd take a GT3 RS over a Viper any day.

That's not the point. Many people would.

The point is that it makes no sense for people to be butthurt over the fact that the ACR is some kind of stripped out track car when in reality it's got a way more complete interior than a GT3 RS.
 

jlee

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That's not the point. Many people would.

The point is that it makes no sense for people to be butthurt over the fact that the ACR is some kind of stripped out track car when in reality it's got a way more complete interior than a GT3 RS.

Viper ACR: from $118,795
GT3 RS: from $175,900

And you could buy a Viper ACR plus a $60k second car for roughly the same price as a GT3 RS...
 

JulesMaximus

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That's not the point. Many people would.

The point is that it makes no sense for people to be butthurt over the fact that the ACR is some kind of stripped out track car when in reality it's got a way more complete interior than a GT3 RS.

Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to the nonsense in this thread for a while now.
 

thesmokingman

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It's a street-legal car that outperforms cars from elite manufacturers which cost several times as much. It looks and sounds cool. Is that not what people are supposed to get amped over in The Garage?


Well it's cool sure, but it's not that cool. I just don't find it all that much of a feat to squeeze a race prepped car into a street car class just to win bragging points. I'm not sure that car can even be sold in many markets with all the restrictions in place now. Anyways, when you're sprint racing then yes, lap times are key but when we're talking parameters more along the lines of my dream car I'd rather have... I'll give up that minute and change for the 918. Call it blasphemy, but I don't care. The 918 is a complete car and one that checks all the boxes, comfort, speed, prestige, looks, and it even won Le Mans. Yes, it costs as much as a decent house in California, but we're in my dreams atm so that is ok.
 

996GT2

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Well it's cool sure, but it's not that cool. I just don't find it all that much of a feat to squeeze a race prepped car into a street car class just to win bragging points. I'm not sure that car can even be sold in many markets with all the restrictions in place now. Anyways, when you're sprint racing then yes, lap times are key but when we're talking parameters more along the lines of my dream car I'd rather have... I'll give up that minute and change for the 918. Call it blasphemy, but I don't care. The 918 is a complete car and one that checks all the boxes, comfort, speed, prestige, looks, and it even won Le Mans. Yes, it costs as much as a decent house in California, but we're in my dreams atm so that is ok.

Uh what? No.

You're thinking of the 919, which is a completely different car powered by a V4 engine.
 
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thesmokingman

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Uh what? No.

You're thinking of the 919, which is a completely different car powered by a V4 engine.


The 919 nomenclature is a reference to the 918. You know they share some traits with the mid engine hybridness. But yea, I was thinking of the 919. Porsche do love to prove their theories in racing.
 

jlee

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The 919 nomenclature is a reference to the 918. You know they share some traits with the mid engine hybridness. But yea, I was thinking of the 919. Porsche do love to prove their theories in racing.

But it's not street legal...which the ACR is. The 918 numbering follows the 917, which was a race car from the 70's.

The 918 and 919 are not remotely the same car. The street car is 92.7% heavier, for one...
 

thesmokingman

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But it's not street legal...which the ACR is. The 918 numbering follows the 917, which was a race car from the 70's.

The 918 and 919 are not remotely the same car. The street car is 92.7% heavier, for one...



I was referring to the 918 as the one I'd own.

Not exactly, the 919 nomenclature is a throwback to the 917 as well as the 918. But really don't take my word for it. How about Porsche's words, will those do?

http://newsroom.porsche.com/en/moto...sports-919-hybrid-2015-wec-le-mans-10129.html


The black LMP1 with starting number 18 is a symbol of the close technical kinship between the Porsche 919 Hybrid racing car and the Porsche 918 Spyder super sports car, which is also equipped with a hybrid drive. It was also a black 918 that on September 4, 2013 set a new record for a street-legal production sports car by completing a lap of more than 20 kilometres on the North Loop of the Nürburgring in six minutes and 57 seconds. The record-setting driver here was Marc Lieb, 34, from Germany. Lieb will also drive the black 919 in Le Mans this year – together with Romain Dumas, 37, (France) and Neel Jani, 31 (Switzerland).
Hey, they even have the same headlight arrangement.



It's only a coincidence they are always photog'd together right?



http://press.porsche.com/media/gall...K+918+Spyder+and+919+Hybrid/IMG_2482.jpg.html
 

Harrod

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Pretty cool that they were able to set new records, I wonder if they are at the limit of what the car will do or if they could get better times without significantly increasing the risk of wrecking the car.
 

thesmokingman

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If if weren't "that cool", you wouldn't feel the need to contrast it with a completely different car which costs seven times as much.

You know what? The 918 is cool, but not that cool. For less than $5,000,000, I can get something WAY faster.



http://www.raptoraviation.com/aircraft spec pages/Mig29.html

You know, I can respect the fact that you like the ACR more. I don't need to troll you for your choice either. And I'm not contrasting it with whatever, that was already the topic of the thread lol. Why ppl act like this is a real purchase so they must factor in bean counting? Yea, the ACR is faster. It's literally a race car for the street. That doesn't mean we all have to choose it, does it?
 

angminas

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You know, I can respect the fact that you like the ACR more. I don't need to troll you for your choice either. And I'm not contrasting it with whatever, that was already the topic of the thread lol. Why ppl act like this is a real purchase so they must factor in bean counting? Yea, the ACR is faster. It's literally a race car for the street. That doesn't mean we all have to choose it, does it?

I didn't say I like the ACR more. I didn't say I chose it. I didn't say we all have to choose it. Who are you even talking to? And the price difference is meaningless? You're not living in reality, kid. I'm out.
 

MagickMan

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Viper ACR: from $118,795
GT3 RS: from $175,900

And you could buy a Viper ACR plus a $60k second car for roughly the same price as a GT3 RS...

and you'd have a much faster car with a proper manual gearbox. (and this from someone who has a car with a PDK trans)
 

jlee

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I was referring to the 918 as the one I'd own.

You said it won LeMans. It didn't...so now that that's sorted out, I suppose we can continue.

thesmokingman said:
Not exactly, the 919 nomenclature is a throwback to the 917 as well as the 918. But really don't take my word for it. How about Porsche's words, will those do?

The 919 nomenclature is a reference to the 918.

jlee said:
The 918 numbering follows the 917, which was a race car from the 70's.
I'm not sure what your major malfunction is.

Regardless, if the argument is that "they share mid-engine hybridness, they have the same headlight arrangement, and Porsche takes pictures of them together" I'm afraid this discussion is entering a level I cannot comprehend.

One is a purpose built race car that is not street legal. One is a street car. If you prefer the 918, more power to you -- but it's not the same car that won LeMans (this is a good article on the 919).
 
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PricklyPete

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If if weren't "that cool", you wouldn't feel the need to contrast it with a completely different car which costs seven times as much.



You know what? The 918 is cool, but not that cool. For less than $5,000,000, I can get something WAY faster.







http://www.raptoraviation.com/aircraft spec pages/Mig29.html


That looks way too stripped. I Don't think I could daily drive something like that because my vagina likes extra plush seats.
 

Howard

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I don't understand why people can't just be happy for the breaking of records. This isn't even like when an athlete is suspected of taking steroids, Jesus.
 

KentState

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Just saw the results from the R&T PCOFY article at the NCM track. Looks like the ACR beat the Z06 by .1 seconds. Would be interesting to see how close the two cars stack up at other tracks.
 
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^^Lmao, are you like paid by Dodge or something to get this amped over a race car in street clothes?

Because I'm taking issue with your awful arguments' lack of real logic?

Man the butthurt in this thread is strong
Last time the viper ACR crushed the nurburgring record everyone was like "holy shit" and now everyone is saying "Ohhh but it's an ACR and it has custom but street legal tires and aero packages and is designed to be tracked"

We'll duh,thats what the ACR is for. No one would be bitching over a 911 GT3RS though. Guaranteed.

Edit: spelling

No kidding. I thought the garage was better than this. Feel like this forum is starting to get like the Console or Mobile forums (granted it hasn't gotten Video Cards, let alone P&N bad).

I'm not taking issue with the moderation, as I've generally been happy that they've let this subforum self moderate, and for the most part that has gone well as by and large people point out horrible arguments and we have good discussions. But lately we've been getting full on thread crapping (the manly car thread which went exactly as expected). Some by people that should know better.

Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to the nonsense in this thread for a while now.

Then go troll somewhere else. WTF? You're not normally such a dick. Is it because it has a "pickup" engine?
 

RichieZ

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Viper ACR: from $118,795
GT3 RS: from $175,900

And you could buy a Viper ACR plus a $60k second car for roughly the same price as a GT3 RS...

the gt3 rs in the photo above is a 997.2 4.0, its going for upwards of 400K+ today

even the 991 GT3RS is going for like 300K (100K over list) right now

I just placed a deposit for a 991.2 GT3 at MSRP though
 

Pariah

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Because I'm taking issue with your awful arguments' lack of real logic?



No kidding. I thought the garage was better than this. Feel like this forum is starting to get like the Console or Mobile forums (granted it hasn't gotten Video Cards, let alone P&N bad).

I'm not taking issue with the moderation, as I've generally been happy that they've let this subforum self moderate, and for the most part that has gone well as by and large people point out horrible arguments and we have good discussions. But lately we've been getting full on thread crapping (the manly car thread which went exactly as expected). Some by people that should know better.



Then go troll somewhere else. WTF? You're not normally such a dick. Is it because it has a "pickup" engine?

God forbid someone disagrees with your opinion. Banning them from the forum is definitely the solution. Since when does everyone who has an interest in cars all have to like the same ones? The ACR is a sh!t car that is unusable as daily transportation, but is also really fast around a race track. Great, it's not for me nor is any car that is similar.

Let me apologize to you darkswordsman17 on behalf of myself and everyone else who doesn't agree with you about the ACR. Obviously we aren't in the same league as you when it comes to being auto enthusiasts.
 
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