Dodge Viper ACR sets lap records on 13 tracks

[Fenixgoon]

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/11/04/2016-dodge-viper-acr-13-lap-records-video/

Sweet mother of god. Every time someone says "OMG viper killer" the ACR comes out and destroys everything.

The journey culminated just days ago at Laguna Seca, where track expert Randy Pobst climbed into the Viper ACR and set a lap time of 1:28.65. That's 5.27 seconds faster than the previous ACR's time, and 1.24 seconds faster than the Porsche 918 Spyder that held the record until now.

 

[iamwiz82]

That's the equivalent of 11 car lengths after just one lap at Laguna Seca.

Woah

 

[angminas]

Faster than a 918? With like 270 fewer hp? It must make some insane G in the corners.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Yeah, that's great... still don't want to drive one to work every day.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I'd be interested in how its tires compare to the Michelin's that are dominating the top level performance rung. If they're worse than those, then holy hell, that would mean it could probably gain a decent amount still.

So how long before they make a run at the Ring time?

Yeah, that's great... still don't want to drive one to work every day.

No $#!^. Hey guys, I wouldn't want to drive a race-modified version of a sports car that wasn't known for being an every day type of car to begin with! Well thank you captain obvious. No doubt this would give your Camry a real run for the money in daily driver duty!

Seriously, what's with the braindead posts in the Garage forum lately?

 

[SithSolo1]

nvm

 

[Pariah]

No $#!^. Hey guys, I wouldn't want to drive a race-modified version of a sports car that wasn't known for being an every day type of car to begin with! Well thank you captain obvious. No doubt this would give your Camry a real run for the money in daily driver duty!

Seriously, what's with the braindead posts in the Garage forum lately?

It certainly is a valid point to note that the Viper ACR has given up any attempt to be a usable vehicle on public streets in an attempt to break these records of vehicles that could be used on a regular basis even if they never actually are.

 

[Bull Dog]

I guess the headlines could accurately read, "Production spec street legal race car sets new production car lap records."

 

[KentState]

Yeah, that's great... still don't want to drive one to work every day.

If you buy that as a daily driver, you are doing it wrong.

 

[Fenixgoon]

If you buy that as a daily driver, you are doing it wrong.

Or maybe you are doing it really, really right :awe::awe:

 

[brainhulk]

what is the weight of the ACR compared to the 918? any more info on the tires they used?

 

[SithSolo1]

what is the weight of the ACR compared to the 918? any more info on the tires they used?

Tires per the article(I haven't found a comparison between them and other high end tires):

"The 2016 Dodge Viper ACR is fitted with Kumho® Ecsta V720 high-performance tires designed specifically for the car with unique tread pattern and compounds for front and rear. In testing, the new tires produce lap times that are 1.5 seconds faster than off-road-only race tires.

Low-profile front tires measure 295/25/19 and are mounted on wider 11-inch wide wheels and when combined with the 355/30/19 rear tires provide the largest combined tire patch available on any production car. On the sidewall of the new tires is a unique raised ACR logo."



As far as weight goes:

Standard ACR est. 3,374 lbs
ACR w/ AeroKit est. 3,392 lbs

918 Spyder est. 3,692 lbs
w/ Weissach Package est. 3,602 lbs

 

[darkswordsman17]

It certainly is a valid point to note that the Viper ACR has given up any attempt to be a usable vehicle on public streets in an attempt to break these records of vehicles that could be used on a regular basis even if they never actually are.

I would say that might be true like in the case of that non-street legal version of the Ninja. But his comment was just about his view of it as a daily driver. There are very few performance cars that make even adequate daily drivers (let alone compared to cars built for that purpose) so his comment was flippant and pointless. Frankly it was a stupid thing to say. Anyone with just basic knowledge of the ACR or even just seeing a picture of it, it not being a good daily driver would be incredibly obvious. There was no need for his comment and it was a frankly stupid thing to say since he said it in a critical manner. It'd be like us saying his bike wouldn't be good for taking someone to and from their dialysis appointment. Its just nonsense and only makes the person saying or writing to look stupid. We've been getting a lot more of that type of post in the Garage lately too and it is getting downright annoying.

what is the weight of the ACR compared to the 918? any more info on the tires they used?

Viper is 200-300lbs lighter.
Viper ACR: 3,374 lbs
Porsche 918: 3,602 to 3,692 lbs

The Viper has some specially made Kumho's while the 918 uses those Michelin's that dominate the performance cars these days. I'm really curious about it as well. The Viper's are probably just barely legal cut slicks (but then isn't that true of ultra high performance tires now?).

http://www.drivesrt.com/news/2015/0...astest-street-legal-viper-track-car-ever.html

Keeping the 2016 Dodge Viper glued to the road are four Kumho® Ecsta V720 high-performance tires designed specifically for the vehicle. Featuring a unique tread pattern and a unique raised ACR logo, the new tires have produce laps times that are 1.5 seconds faster than competition race tires. The low-profile front tires measure 295/25/19 and are mounted on wider 11-inch wheels, and when combined with the 355/30/19 rear tires, provide the largest combined tire patch available on any production car.

Put a big splitter and wing on the 918 and let's see how they compare. The Viper just shows there's no replacement for "displacement" (air/downforce in this case). Not to take anything away from the Viper as its actually nice to know you can still make an all conquering performance car by using a basic formula (lightweight + RWD + weight balance + big tires + big brakes + big engine/power + big aero = lap records). Likewise, would be interesting to see how it'd fare against the non-street legal P1 and LaFerrari, all using similar tires (so not the slicks the latter two would likely be on).

 

[thesmokingman]

Someone needs a chill pill.


I'd rather have a 918 anyways. If Leno can drive it daily, so can you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaOfgevPphk

 

[Virge_]

It's still a Chrysler, so you would have to give it to me for free AND pay the insurance for me to ever drive it.

This is the kind of car a rich kid drives. An adult would still take the 918.

 

[TridenT]

It's still a Chrysler, so you would have to give it to me for free AND pay the insurance for me to ever drive it.

This is the kind of car a rich kid drives. An adult would still take the 918.

Uhm, except that a 918 is $700,000+ more and costs about 6x as much.

Cool to see this car being so fast but it's clearly just a track car that's barely production legal.

 

[videogames101]

"production" has a shitty official definition anyway, the new ACR isn't a "production" car by any sane definition.

That being said give me one

 

[iamwiz82]

The Viper has some specially made Kumho's while the 918 uses those Michelin's that dominate the performance cars these days. I'm really curious about it as well. The Viper's are probably just barely legal cut slicks (but then isn't that true of ultra high performance tires now?).

http://www.drivesrt.com/news/2015/0...astest-street-legal-viper-track-car-ever.html

I think that the only customization done for the tires was to make a size that isn't available for production. I doubt that Kumho would use the same model designation for a new tire tread pattern.

 

[SSSnail]

"production" has a shitty official definition anyway, the new ACR isn't a "production" car by any sane definition.

That being said give me one

What do you mean? Why do you hate 'Muricah? It was produced by someone, hence production. D'uh!

 

[darkswordsman17]

I think that the only customization done for the tires was to make a size that isn't available for production. I doubt that Kumho would use the same model designation for a new tire tread pattern.

Possible but SRT themselves says it has a specific tread pattern for the Viper, although to me it just looks like its probably been shaved down to about the minimum to be street legal. Some pics show some slight pattern differences though too.

Like here.

"production" has a shitty official definition anyway, the new ACR isn't a "production" car by any sane definition.

That being said give me one

True, but its fully street legal apparently and that's all that matters. It'd be more difficult to get an Atom or several other cars since you'd have to get the special exemptions (and I believe California hands out very few, like 100 of those exemptions a year).

Plus I think Hennessey can even claim "production" car with the Venom even though he's made like 10 of them total.

Someone needs a chill pill.


I'd rather have a 918 anyways. If Leno can drive it daily, so can you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaOfgevPphk

Gee, I would too, maybe because it'd be worth over half a million dollars more? Plus I could get by with pretty cheap gas prices as I'd be able to run electric on my average commute. WTF kind of logic is that? Hey guys, a massively rich guy that has tons of experience driving a wide variety of vehicles could handle daily driving a car that is actually quite well suited for that, so you can too!

 

[thesmokingman]

^^Lmao, are you like paid by Dodge or something to get this amped over a race car in street clothes?

 

[Fenixgoon]

Man the butthurt in this thread is strong
Last time the viper ACR crushed the nurburgring record everyone was like "holy shit" and now everyone is saying "Ohhh but it's an ACR and it has custom but street legal tires and aero packages and is designed to be tracked"

We'll duh,thats what the ACR is for. No one would be bitching over a 911 GT3RS though. Guaranteed.

Edit: spelling

 

[Topweasel]

Man the butthurt in this thread is strong
Last time the viper ACR crushed the nurturing record everyone was like "holy shit" and now everyone is saying "Ohhh but it's an ACR and it has custom but street legal tires and aero packages and is designed to be tracked"

We'll duh,thats what the ACR is for. No one would be bitching over a 911 GT3RS though. Guaranteed.

Basically. Z28 or ACR, Everyone is basically saying that its useless because its just a track car. But everyone is going gaga over the GT3(RS) and Cayman GT4. I should comment I haven't really heard to much convo on the GT350R. It being American and Race oriented it should be hated here.

 

[angminas]

Seriously, what's with the braindead posts in the Garage forum lately?

People will shit on anything they can find in a desperate attempt to sound cool. You can haul a 4x8 in your minivan? Ha- my literbike will destroy it at the strip!

 

[angminas]

^^Lmao, are you like paid by Dodge or something to get this amped over a race car in street clothes?

It's a street-legal car that outperforms cars from elite manufacturers which cost several times as much. It looks and sounds cool. Is that not what people are supposed to get amped over in The Garage?